Jerry Jones and NFLPA working to change NFL Marijuana policy

[Doomsday101]

But they don't ban a player from accessing the team resources and facilities for weeks or even a year because of alcohol issues.

BS:

CLEVELAND -- Josh Gordon is officially suspended without pay for a minimum of one year for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, the Browns announced Tuesday. And the team couldn't sound more fed up with the wide receiver.


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Jan. 25 that Gordon had failed a league-issued substance abuse test, this time for alcohol. This is Gordon's third NFL suspension. Also, the team suspended Gordon on the final week of the season for missing team activities. The NFL had issued a zero-drinking stipulation for Gordon as a result of his repeat offenses.

 

[waving monkey]

It's mean-spirited to have rules governing conduct that is illegal and detrimental?

I'm going to stop now because it's clear that those who are OK with the illegal use of marijuana are not going to change their mind on a message board and I'm here to discuss football not whether or not drugs should be OK.

Well we are discussing football. Randy Gregory's ability to get with this team and play has been blocked by a misinformed moralistic regulations.


gimmesix you have every right in your stance but there are extremely varying points of view on this matter .
Like i previously said I'm not a user but long ago I was and I know it's a harmless herb. There is plenty of evidence to back it up.
There are lots of politics involved such as for-profit prison system that has every thing to gain by housing harmless users.
That's whats criminal.

 

[Doomsday101]

They seem to handle the alcohol abuse issues ok without banning the player from interacting with the team.

Not true, Gordon as I point out was suspended for a year because of alcohol.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well we are discussing football. Randy Gregory's ability to get with this team and play has been blocked by a misinformed moralistic regulations.


gimmesix you have every right in your stance but there are extremely varying points of view on this matter .
Like i previously said I'm not a user but long ago I was and I know it's a harmless herb. There is plenty of evidence to back it up.
There are lots of politics involved such as for-profit prison system that has every thing to gain by housing harmless users.
That's whats criminal.

he has failed 7 test he has a problem, we can make weed legal and Gregory still has a problem. It seems to control him to the point he would risk a career over it. Seems to me people don't give a damn about Gregory and his problem they just want him to play football. Kid has issues that need to be addressed.

 

[Nav22]

Weed is dangerous. And for the sake of all the players, the commish should ban anything that endangers their health...besides football, that is.

"Dangerous" like a cheeseburger is "dangerous". Give me a break.

Edit: just saw your follow-up that you were being facetious. I'm extra slow today.

 

[aikemirv]

They seem to handle the alcohol abuse issues ok without banning the player from interacting with the team.

I would disagree with that assessment. First, the testing is completely different. I doubt that alcohol abuse is dealt with at all unless it leads to a DUI or domestic disturbance or a player showing up to practice/game drunk.I think that is a team issue not a league issue.

 

[Sasquatch]

Players should give something up if they want to change League Marijuana policy? I don't get how quid pro quo should factor into this.

 

[Sage3030]

OK, we are getting into politics a little here so I will be careful, but couldn't the war on drugs have been for social concerns on what it was doing to people and their families rather than a racial motivation? Rather than, lets go after this certain race......

Nope. He said their enemies were black people and liberal hippies.

Also, he said did we know what we were saying about these drugs was not true? Yes we did. They(Nixon administration) had commissioned a study on marijuana before the war started. Nixon didn't like that result of the study so they lied. Here's a tidbit on that: The Shafer Commission, formally known as the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, was appointed by U.S. President Richard Nixon in the early 1970s. Its chairman was former Pennsylvania Governor Raymond P. Shafer. The commission issued a report on its findings in 1972 that called for the decriminalization of marijuanapossession in the United States. The report was ignored by the White House, but is an important document against prohibition.

But you're right on the politics stuff. Need to lay off.

That medical study, yeah not a good one. Especially when the article they use to promote it concludes by basically saying, just kidding.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Not true, Gordon as I point out was suspended for a year because of alcohol.

There's a big difference. The league doesn't test for alcohol unless there is a known issue with the player and it becomes an issue in that player doing the job. They test for marijuana before - as if they are looking for a problem to regulate. If a player can smoke recreationally without it becoming a hindrance to him doing his job, it shouldn't be an issue. Much like it's no issue for a player to go out for drinks if they choose.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I would disagree with that assessment. First, the testing is completely different. I doubt that alcohol abuse is dealt with at all unless it leads to a DUI or domestic disturbance or a player showing up to practice/game drunk.I think that is a team issue not a league issue.

That's how marijuana abuse should be treated.

 

[waving monkey]

he has failed 7 test he has a problem, we can make weed legal and Gregory still has a problem. It seems to control him to the point he would risk a career over it. Seems to me people don't give a damn about Gregory and his problem they just want him to play football. Kid has issues that need to be addressed.

Doomsday, I would agree that Gregory depends on weed much like alcoholics depend on alcohol.
What level of damage to health I am not so sure certainly less then smoking cigarettes.
I might say that coffee is damaging to the liver but its not controlled.
Not giving a damn about a non health problem is giving a damn about a false misinformed political issue.
If you gt my drift

 

[Sage3030]

BS:

CLEVELAND -- Josh Gordon is officially suspended without pay for a minimum of one year for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, the Browns announced Tuesday. And the team couldn't sound more fed up with the wide receiver.


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Jan. 25 that Gordon had failed a league-issued substance abuse test, this time for alcohol. This is Gordon's third NFL suspension. Also, the team suspended Gordon on the final week of the season for missing team activities. The NFL had issued a zero-drinking stipulation for Gordon as a result of his repeat offenses.

Ouch.

Well when you're in the program, you're not allowed to drink. He must have drank a lot the night before the test. That's an instantaneous right now kind of test. Unlike testing for marijuana.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

You're not a true Cowboy fan.

Drunk - High - Cowboys forever.

Cowboys forever but I get High and watch it and I'm like This is cool it's like track and wrestling combined I wish there was something at stake

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

he has failed 7 test he has a problem, we can make weed legal and Gregory still has a problem. It seems to control him to the point he would risk a career over it. Seems to me people don't give a damn about Gregory and his problem they just want him to play football. Kid has issues that need to be addressed.

To be fair, my stance on marijuana has nothing to do with Gregory. That ship has sailed. But i do feel bad for the kid.

 

[waldoputty]

It ain't an act

99% of the interest in this topic is from the need for a war daddy, and i am just being honest.
another outdated rules that serves as a negotiation advantage for the owners financially.
if the players cared enough about it, they would give on something else.

 

[aikemirv]

That's how marijuana abuse should be treated.

Again, not the same testing procedure. Impossible to do.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Again, not the same testing procedure. Impossible to do.

No, it's not impossible. You don't involve testing unless there is an event or a known problem to trigger it.

 

[Doomsday101]

There's a big difference. The league doesn't test for alcohol unless there is a known issue with the player and it becomes an issue in that player doing the job. They test for marijuana before - as if they are looking for a problem to regulate. If a player can smoke recreationally without it becoming a hindrance to him doing his job, it shouldn't be an issue. Much like it's no issue for a player to go out for drinks if they choose.

They do test for alcohol the problem it unlike weed it does not stay in the body very long but fact is you can be suspended for it. Personally don't care if they smoke or not but give me a break Gregory has 7 time he has been popped knowing damn well what the consequences are yet continues that is a real problem be it weed or any other substance the guy has issues.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

They do test for alcohol the problem it unlike weed it does not stay in the body very long but fact is you can be suspended for it. Personally don't care if they smoke or not but give me a break Gregory has 7 time he has been popped knowing damn well what the consequences are yet continues that is a real problem be it weed or any other substance the guy has issues.

Like I said, I'm not arguing because of Gregory. I think it's bad policy.

 

[Typhus]

Do not agree.

Plus, anyone who seriously abuses weed will not be able to play professional football at a high level and will not make it in the league anyway.

As a pain or stress management tool, I have zero issue with players using marijuana.

Alcohol is much worse IMO yet it is not only tolerated by the NFL, it's one of their top endorsers.

Exactly, everyone in the NBA gets stoned, almost, you know what I mean,, the true stoners get transitioned out... Coaches like Pop know if your a stoner, and you wont play.
Even if Pot were to be legalized in the NFL, players/stoners like Gregory wouldn't make it regardless, but players that used it medicinally you would never know.