Jerry Jones nominated for HOF

[YosemiteSam]

Would have never believed Jerry would get in before Jimmy.....But then again...Nothing is official. My conspiracy is the league is toying w/ Jerry. Let him get his hopes up...just to pull the football away.

Why? Jerry has done more for the NFL than Jimmy and it's not even close. Jerry has done more for the NFL than probably 75% of the owners combined.

Besides, I un-nominate him.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I was just comin in here to say, not only does he get in, I guarantee we'll be one of the HOF game teams......which wouldnt be a bad thing IF it was included as one the 4 pre-season games and not a 5th one....

As long as we paint the field with colored concrete.

 

[Plankton]

I stand corrected on the Patriots naming rights and ESPN startup (He did however help put the clamps on ABC and every other network forcing ESPN to up the ante for Monday Night Football. And, for the sake of honesty, who do think was banging the table on the television committee? Modell? Bowlen? Come on .

However you couldn't possibly be more wrong about when and how Jones sold the naming rights to the stadium and field. Texas Stadium was actually Pepsi Stadium and the playing field was Nike Field LONG before Jerry World was built (I want to say it was in 93-94 maybe?).

No, your recollection is wrong. Jones sold pouring rights at Texas Stadium for Pepsi in 1995, and sold a team sponsorship to Nike for their sideline clothing and uniforms also in 1995, and was subsequently sued by the league for violating league negotiated sponsorships with Coca Cola and Reebok. The Cowboys couldn't have any Nike logos on their sideline gear for 1995 until this was settled.

The name of Texas Stadium never changed, nor did the field have any logo from Pepsi or Nike on it.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm a season ticket holder like about 10,000 others who refused to make the move were priced out of their season tickets which we had for 3 or 4 decades.

Went from about 1,000 -1,500 a year for 2 tickets to about 10-12,000 a year with PSL.

This is why we don't have the home field advantage at AT&T we had at Tex Stad. It's mostly corporate driven season tickets .

How's that working out for us on the field ? Cowboys had one of the best home field advantages at Tex Stad at 67%.

 

[Floatyworm]

No, your recollection is wrong. Jones sold pouring rights at Texas Stadium for Pepsi in 1995, and sold a team sponsorship to Nike for their sideline clothing and uniforms also in 1995, and was subsequently sued by the league for violating league negotiated sponsorships with Coca Cola and Reebok. The Cowboys couldn't have any Nike logos on their sideline gear for 1995 until this was settled.

The name of Texas Stadium never changed, nor did the field have any logo from Pepsi or Nike on it.

Yup....

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/19/sports/pro-football-nfl-sues-jones-to-stop-ambush-deals.html

I find it hilarious Jerry is getting a pat on the back for finding ways to screw fans out of their all mighty dollar...and this place actually has fans willing to defend this....right to the keyboard death.

Wow

 

[Floatyworm]

I'm a season ticket holder like about 10,000 others who were priced out of their season tickets which we had for 3 or 4 decades.

Went from about 1,000 -1,500 a year for 2 tickets to about 10-12,000 a year with PSL.

This is why we don't have the home field advantage at AT&T we had at Tex Stad. It's mostly corporate driven season tickets .

How's that working out for us on the field ? Cowboys had one of the best home field advantages at Tex Stad at 67%.

Generating record revenue and record futility era on the field.

And you had to pay $$$ just for the right to purchase tickets...If I remember correctly. Talk about sticking it to the average Joe.

 

[Plankton]

And you had to pay $$$ just for the right to purchase tickets...If I remember correctly. Talk about sticking it to the average Joe.

Clint Murchison, the original owner of the Cowboys, instituted the early concept of PSLs when Texas Stadium was built. Each person buying season tickets had to buy a $250 stadium bond, which were issued to pay down the cost of the stadium.

If you want to blame someone for the usury concept of PSLs, blame Murchison for starting the ball rolling on this.

 

[Risen Star]

I'm a season ticket holder like about 10,000 others who refused to make the move were priced out of their season tickets which we had for 3 or 4 decades.

Went from about 1,000 -1,500 a year for 2 tickets to about 10-12,000 a year with PSL.

This is why we don't have the home field advantage at AT&T we had at Tex Stad. It's mostly corporate driven season tickets .

How's that working out for us on the field ? Cowboys had one of the best home field advantages at Tex Stad at 67%.

Sucks that you got priced out but spare me on the great home field advantage at Texas Stadium. That crowd was lame too in comparison to what you see up here in the Northeast. I distinctly remember Darren Woodson giving fans advice on how to act within the game during their run in the 90's.

 

[YosemiteSam]

No, your recollection is wrong. Jones sold pouring rights at Texas Stadium for Pepsi in 1995, and sold a team sponsorship to Nike for their sideline clothing and uniforms also in 1995, and was subsequently sued by the league for violating league negotiated sponsorships with Coca Cola and Reebok. The Cowboys couldn't have any Nike logos on their sideline gear for 1995 until this was settled.

The name of Texas Stadium never changed, nor did the field have any logo from Pepsi or Nike on it.

Nike was all over the place at Texas Stadium.

In signing the Nike and Pepsi deals, Jones has said he was not trying to wreck the revenue-sharing scheme that binds National Football League owners. Rather, he said he was operating legally by conferring stadium, not team, rights on Nike and Pepsi. The Nike swoosh logo is now painted on Texas Stadium and a Nike-Cowboys theme park at the Irving, Tex., facility is in the planning stages.

Nike is also outfitting Cowboy sideline personnel (anyone not wearing a jersey), but the swoosh is not visible. Only Starter, Champion, Reebok, Logo Athletic and Wilson are authorized N.F.L. sideline apparel makers. Nike has sought a license for years.​

 

[Floatyworm]

Clint Murchison, the original owner of the Cowboys, instituted the early concept of PSLs when Texas Stadium was built. Each person buying season tickets had to buy a $250 stadium bond, which were issued to pay down the cost of the stadium.

If you want to blame someone for the usury concept of PSLs, blame Murchison for starting the ball rolling on this.

But Jerry took it to a whole new level....

 

[BAZ]

Now that's funny...because you know well Johnny Walker is making that speech.

Jurrells official speech writer and PR man.

 

[skinsscalper]

No, your recollection is wrong. Jones sold pouring rights at Texas Stadium for Pepsi in 1995, and sold a team sponsorship to Nike for their sideline clothing and uniforms also in 1995, and was subsequently sued by the league for violating league negotiated sponsorships with Coca Cola and Reebok. The Cowboys couldn't have any Nike logos on their sideline gear for 1995 until this was settled.

The name of Texas Stadium never changed, nor did the field have any logo from Pepsi or Nike on it.

PRO FOOTBALL; N.F.L. Sues Jones to Stop 'Ambush' Deals
By RICHARD SANDOMIR
Published: September 19, 1995

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Jerry Jones and the National Football League are officially at war.

Fed up with "ambush" deals signed by the Cowboys' maverick owner with Nike and Pepsi over the past month, NFL Properties struck back yesterday with a lawsuit in Federal District Court in New York that seeks $300 million in damages from Jones, his team and Texas Stadium.

The league's action came on the eve of the owners' meeting today in Atlanta, where handling Jones's rogue deal making was the main subject on the agenda.

The legal action does not seek to undo the Nike and Pepsi deals, which are worth an estimated $40 million. But it would bar Jones from signing future deals to "undermine existing N.F.L. sponsorship or licensing contracts."

Coca-Cola, the brand poured in 28 of 30 stadiums (Foxboro Stadium also sells Pepsi), and Reebok are official league sponsors and the most direct rivals of Pepsi and Nike. An imminent deal between Jones and American Express apparently prompted the league to file suit.

A hearing is scheduled for Thursday.

"The effect of the recent ambush marketing deals signed by Jerry Jones," said Roger Headrick, chairman of NFL Properties, "has been to undermine existing NFL Properties sponsorships and contracts that were made on behalf of all 30 clubs and to inhibit NFL Properties' future arrangements. Our sponsors and licensees keep asking us whether we are representing all 30 N.F.L. clubs, or just 29 in competition with the Cowboys."

Jones was not available for comment.

In signing the Nike and Pepsi deals, Jones has said he was not trying to wreck the revenue-sharing scheme that binds National Football League owners. Rather, he said he was operating legally by conferring stadium, not team, rights on Nike and Pepsi. The Nike swoosh logo is now painted on Texas Stadium and a Nike-Cowboys theme park at the Irving, Tex., facility is in the planning stages.

Nike is also outfitting Cowboy sideline personnel (anyone not wearing a jersey), but the swoosh is not visible. Only Starter, Champion, Reebok, Logo Athletic and Wilson are authorized N.F.L. sideline apparel makers. Nike has sought a license for years.

Recently, Jones said: "I am well advised and sensitive to playing by the rules. There is no way that I'm in violation of any N.F.L. rules."

But the league evidently feels otherwise, asking the court to "order the defendants to stop violating their agreements with NFL Properties."

Jones has said that the 30 N.F.L. teams can market their names and logos better than the league can -- easy to say when the Cowboys account for 24 percent of league-licensed merchandise sales -- and he has called for the end of NFL Properties when its term expires in 2003. -------------------- N.F.L. to Go on Line


Jones actually counter sued and the NFL settled out of court. But the real winner was Jones (and 30 other owners) as Jones went ahead with business as usual cutting deals on his own with several other companies including PINK and Victoria's Secret (the Jones' family spearheaded the targeting of the female audience who now account for 44% of the NFL audience).

 

[Plankton]

In signing the Nike and Pepsi deals, Jones has said he was not trying to wreck the revenue-sharing scheme that binds National Football League owners. Rather, he said he was operating legally by conferring stadium, not team, rights on Nike and Pepsi. The Nike swoosh logo is now painted on Texas Stadium and a Nike-Cowboys theme park at the Irving, Tex., facility is in the planning stages.

This is not different than anything that I said. The theme park never happened. The logo was painted on the top of the stadium. The field never had a logo. Texas Stadium's name never changed.

Jones sold sponsorships - not facility naming rights.

 

[skinsscalper]

This is not different than anything that I said. The theme park never happened. The logo was painted on the top of the stadium. The field never had a logo. Texas Stadium's name never changed.

Jones sold sponsorships - not facility naming rights.

Correct. My recollection was wrong but I could have sworn back in the day I remember Madden talking about being confused about Pepsi Stadium and Nike Field. Why there were two names and what it means.

 

[Risen Star]

If we could fill either stadium with the people who post on these boards we'd have a great home field advantage. Especially if I wear a muscle shirt near the visitors' bench.

But the folks down there in Texas are just too laid back. Nothing wrong with that. It's actually a great quality and way to live. It just doesn't produce much of an advantage for the home team.

 

[Plankton]

If we could fill either stadium with the people who post on these boards we'd have a great home field advantage. Especially if I wear a muscle shirt near the visitors' bench.

But the folks down there in Texas are just too laid back. Nothing wrong with that. It's actually a great quality and way to live. It just doesn't produce much of an advantage for the home team.

I'm not so sure that it's the laid back nature that's an issue. The college crowds in Texas sure get loud enough.

I think that the rabid fan has been priced out of the stadium.

 

[Floatyworm]

If we could fill either stadium with the people who post on these boards we'd have a great home field advantage. Especially if I wear a muscle shirt near the visitors' bench.

But the folks down there in Texas are just too laid back. Nothing wrong with that. It's actually a great quality and way to live. It just doesn't produce much of an advantage for the home team.

Imagine if Jerry cut the price of beer in half....People might actually get fired up.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup....

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/19/sports/pro-football-nfl-sues-jones-to-stop-ambush-deals.html

I find it hilarious Jerry is getting a pat on the back for finding ways to screw fans out of their all mighty dollar...and this place actually has fans willing to defend this....right to the keyboard death.

Wow

Sucks that you got priced out but spare me on the great home field advantage at Texas Stadium. That crowd was lame too in comparison to what you see up here in the Northeast. I distinctly remember Darren Woodson giving fans advice on how to act within the game during their run in the 90's.

Cowboy fans have always been more of the serious nature. No alcohol all of those years had much to do with it. At least we weret infested with opposing fans.

Our home field had much to do with the heat elements and the sun glare which we also lost with the move.

 

[Hardline]

Cowboys game tickets,concession sales and parking are that expensive because people will pay it. It's the free market at work.if millions of you would join me in not spending a single penny on the Cowboys prices would go down.

 

[Diehardblues]

If we could fill either stadium with the people who post on these boards we'd have a great home field advantage. Especially if I wear a muscle shirt near the visitors' bench.

But the folks down there in Texas are just too laid back. Nothing wrong with that. It's actually a great quality and way to live. It just doesn't produce much of an advantage for the home team( quote)

.

And you wonder why when you charge $345 a seat ,$75 parking,$18 a margarita and $15 popcorn it attracts a wine and cheese crowd .