Jerry Jones open to trading 2016 first-rounder

[SunspotJonz]

Obviously you can never literally be one piece away since theres injuries..luck..involved, but we can all agree that giving yourself the best chance to win is most important

AP Simply does that and its hard to refute that

 

[conner01]

I sorta agree. Jimmy is in his prime. Ap, might be 30, but he has 2 years of not playing football. And considering what he did after that ACL tear, at this point, bring it on. Nothing suggests he is slowing down.

I would trade a first for a guy who could put you over the top as far as getting farther in the playoffs.
Just don't think AP is that guy and I don't see any RB who would be available who would be to me
The concept is fine but I don't see any player I would trade a first for and certainly wouldn't for a 30 yr old RB
Maybe a dominate pass rusher

 

[Stash]

Obviously you can never literally be one piece away since theres injuries..luck..involved, but we can all agree that giving yourself the best chance to win is most important

AP Simply does that and its hard to refute that

Totally agree. That's why I don't bother tryin'!

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Why does it seem like the teams that "go all In" in the offseason by picking up these big names always come up way short?

 

[Galian Beast]

Why does it seem like the teams that "go all In" in the offseason by picking up these big names always come up way short?

Is that what happened with the Patriots and Revis? Patriots with Corey Dillon? Seahawks with Bennett and Avril?

 

[MichaelValentino]

It's weird to me that a lot of people view trading a 1st rounder to get AD as basically throwing away a 1st rounder.

If things go the way we expect them to, we will be getting the 30-32 pick in the draft. If I could give that up to increase the odds of this team winning a Super Bowl in the next three years, I do that. That is not a waste of a 30-32 pick. I'd actually say that was a smart use of it.

I agree with this.

Let's consider the last picks of the 1st round going back to 2004: Ben Watson, Logan Mankins, Matthew Kiwanuka, Anthony Gonzalez, Kenny Phillips, Evander Hood, Patrick Robinson, Derek Sherrod, David Wilson, Matt Elam and Teddy Bridgewater.

Of that group of 11 players, Mankins is the only one to stand out as a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player. There are some other good players on that list but, overall, it certainly does not blow me away.

Let's look at the Cowboys' 1st round draft picks after winning their five Super Bowls: RB Bill Thomas, DT Larry Bethea, DE Shante Carver. The Cowboys also had two post-SB years where they had no 1st round selection.

Of the 14 players listed above, who on that list would you take over a 30-year old Adrian Peterson for one year, two years, three years?

The people here at CF arguing for Peterson believe that with him the Cowboys would have a very good chance of winning the SB this year (and next). I am in with that group.

Peterson would, I believe, thrive behind the Cowboys O-line this year and next. With the Cowboys passing game and the way Romo played last year without the pressure of having to carry the team on his back thanks to a dominant running game, I see Dallas as likely winning two SBs back-to-back with Peterson in the backfield.

What no. 32 pick in the 2016 draft will be more valuable to the Cowboys than Peterson next year?

IMHO, if the Cowboys get Peterson, you'll see Lindy's, Athlon's, Sporting News, Pro Football Weekly and a host of other preseason football publications picking Dallas to reach the SB or win it.

After a 20-year drought, that would be worth a no. 1 draft pick for me.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Is that what happened with the Patriots and Revis? Patriots with Corey Dillon? Seahawks with Bennett and Avril?

I'm not against it just saying. What about the "dream team" with the Eagles and the Commanders' failures. If you think AP is our only ticket to the SB your wrong.........

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah, but that's also an example of the move you should make if it's there to be made. I'm with you on the high picks for a 30 year old RB in general, but there are lots of ways to improve a roster, and at some price, this one would be worth it. The bigger issue is the salary cap implications. We've got a lot of good young players, and I want to keep them if we can.

And to me the salary cap ramifications are worse than giving away the 1st round pick.

 

[CashMan]

I would trade a first for a guy who could put you over the top as far as getting farther in the playoffs.
Just don't think AP is that guy and I don't see any RB who would be available who would be to me
The concept is fine but I don't see any player I would trade a first for and certainly wouldn't for a 30 yr old RB
Maybe a dominate pass rusher

What is the last team, that did something like that? It just doesn't add up. I do not want it to turn into Roy Williams 2.0.

 

[dallasdave]

Why do people keep comparing the Peterson situation to Joey Galloway and Roy Williams?! Were we possibly one piece away to contend for a Super Bowl when we traded for them? One is a future hall of famer and the other two are WR's that never truly lived up to their hype.

Great post, AP could lead us to the promised land, we are that close. AP could be the last piece to the puzzle to the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl !!!

 

[dallasdave]

I agree with this.

Let's consider the last picks of the 1st round going back to 2004: Ben Watson, Logan Mankins, Matthew Kiwanuka, Anthony Gonzalez, Kenny Phillips, Evander Hood, Patrick Robinson, Derek Sherrod, David Wilson, Matt Elam and Teddy Bridgewater.

Of that group of 11 players, Mankins is the only one to stand out as a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player. There are some other good players on that list but, overall, it certainly does not blow me away.

Let's look at the Cowboys' 1st round draft picks after winning their five Super Bowls: RB Bill Thomas, DT Larry Bethea, DE Shante Carver. The Cowboys also had two post-SB years where they had no 1st round selection.

Of the 14 players listed above, who on that list would you take over a 30-year old Adrian Peterson for one year, two years, three years?

The people here at CF arguing for Peterson believe that with him the Cowboys would have a very good chance of winning the SB this year (and next). I am in with that group.

Peterson would, I believe, thrive behind the Cowboys O-line this year and next. With the Cowboys passing game and the way Romo played last year without the pressure of having to carry the team on his back thanks to a dominant running game, I see Dallas as likely winning two SBs back-to-back with Peterson in the backfield.

What no. 32 pick in the 2016 draft will be more valuable to the Cowboys than Peterson next year?

IMHO, if the Cowboys get Peterson, you'll see Lindy's, Athlon's, Sporting News, Pro Football Weekly and a host of other preseason football publications picking Dallas to reach the SB or win it.

After a 20-year drought, that would be worth a no. 1 draft pick for me.

Well said, stay thirsty my friend.

 

[SunspotJonz]

People are concerned with the cap.

If AP meant winning a superbowl, id give up a little cap issues in exchange for that.

Nobody cares that youre in great cap position and losing in the wilcard round

 

[burmafrd]

I would be willing to part with our second this next year; being optomistic I believe we would be at worst picking in the same area- so late in the rd it is almost a third. AP would have to agree to renegotiate though.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Is that what happened with the Patriots and Revis? Patriots with Corey Dillon? Seahawks with Bennett and Avril?

Excellent point.

But those were very cost effective additions.

You aren't talking 1st round draft picks and a salary that is within the top-5 for the position.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

People are concerned with the cap.

If AP meant winning a superbowl, id give up a little cap issues in exchange for that.

Nobody cares that youre in great cap position and losing in the wilcard round

But the chances of him "ensuring" a SB win is low, due to all the things that can happen between now and the end of the season.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

I think the team as currently constructed can win the Super Bowl.

I think the team as currently constructed but adding AD would make us consensus favorites to win the Super Bowl.

 

[Galian Beast]

I'm not against it just saying. What about the "dream team" with the Eagles and the Commanders' failures. If you think AP is our only ticket to the SB your wrong.........

This is a popular misconception. Just because one person is wrong, doesn't mean that what they're wrong about is inherently wrong.

There have been many dream teams in the NFL.

The Eagles were never a dream team, so their claim was erroneous.

The Cowboys should have the best offensive line in the nfl next year, we probably had it last year. We had the top rated QB in the NFL. We had one of the top receivers in the NFL, maybe even the best.

With AP, that equals dream team. If you don't think so, you don't understand the type of player AP is. Single handedly made Minnesota a competitor for years.

 

[Galian Beast]

Excellent point.

But those were very cost effective additions.

You aren't talking 1st round draft picks and a salary that is within the top-5 for the position.

That has really little to do with the result....

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That has really little to do with the result....

Huh?

The cost is always tied to the result.

I'll tell ya GB, you're so 'in luv' with this whole AD thing that you're not able to see any of this objectively.

 

[Rogah]

Is that what happened with the Patriots and Revis? Patriots with Corey Dillon? Seahawks with Bennett and Avril?

3 of those guys were signed as UFA's and the 4th (Dillon) was traded for a second. So I'm not exactly seeing those a 4 good examples of teams mortgaging the future to bring them in.