Jerry Jones open to trading 2016 first-rounder

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When Peterson starts to decline in ability he'll still be a top 5 back easy.

He hasn't played much the last few years and I see that as a huge bonus.


Any other RB in NFL history I would be against trading for at this age but not him.

He's the most physically gifted guy to ever play RB or possibly any position in the NFL.

I'll take AP for 3 years and LOVE our chances of getting 1 Super Bowl out of that.

There is no other player I'd trade a first round pick for in the NFL besides Andrew Luck or Rodgers because I don't believe any other player, besides Peterson, put us over the top like he does.

There is no way of knowing if the lack of playing time has helped AP or hurt him. Considering the total RBs on the roster, I wouldn't have a problem with trading to get him at this point if the asking price is reasonsble, but it is a gamble. It doesn't matter who it is, Father Time overlooks no one.
 

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I ain't giving up a 1st or 2nd for AP. Any combo of a 3rd,4th,5th,6th, or 7th i don't mind. Just my 2 cents tho.
 

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Neither can Tony

The window is now

If this team continues making good decisions, the window should always be open. There is no need to make stupid decisions that will ruin the future of the team. It is only worth it if the trade is reasonable.
 

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It's weird to me that a lot of people view trading a 1st rounder to get AD as basically throwing away a 1st rounder.

If things go the way we expect them to, we will be getting the 30-32 pick in the draft. If I could give that up to increase the odds of this team winning a Super Bowl in the next three years, I do that. That is not a waste of a 30-32 pick. I'd actually say that was a smart use of it.
 

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Also, everyone wanted to draft Ajayi in the 2nd or 3rd round, knowing that his knees might just give us a few years with him. Basically the same shelf life as AD. Would you rather have the proven best RB in the NFL for 2-3 years with the 30-32 pick in the draft or a questionable rookie with upside for 2-3 years in the 2nd round? Give me AD. Yet, one is considered a dumb move, and the other is considered a value get.
 

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Does it have to be AP? Forte/Foster could very well be had for cheaper and could be on the market.
 

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Does it have to be AP? Forte/Foster could very well be had for cheaper and could be on the market.

Why in the world would Chicago trade Forte or Houston trade Foster? Besides, Foster is injured every other week. No thanks to him.
 

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Also, everyone wanted to draft Ajayi in the 2nd or 3rd round, knowing that his knees might just give us a few years with him. Basically the same shelf life as AD. Would you rather have the proven best RB in the NFL for 2-3 years with the 30-32 pick in the draft or a questionable rookie with upside for 2-3 years in the 2nd round? Give me AD. Yet, one is considered a dumb move, and the other is considered a value get.

I don't think I agree with this. The severity of the Knee issue with Ajayi was not widely known. I think people wanted to draft him without understanding the medical issues. I would also say that not everybody wanted to draft him.
 

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Why does it have to be a trade for AP? Maybe we trade our first round pick for a young RB like Lamar Miller in Miami. He had over 1,000 yards rushing, is only 24 years old, and is in a crowded backfield so Miami might be willing to move him instead of just letting him walk for nothing next season.

Just saying that we might trade for a RB not named AP.

Because Miller is no better than what we have. We can go by committee and be fine. No need to trade picks for no one else.
 

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I wouldn't want AP for just the Salary cap reasons alone. It's not worth it and will cost us the resigning of our own talent down the road. Not Worth it, Not worth it.
 

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It's weird to me that a lot of people view trading a 1st rounder to get AD as basically throwing away a 1st rounder.

For me it is like this: What if Dallas would have traded last year's #1 pick for AP or someone like him. You could say the same thing then that you're arguing now. However, what we know now is that Dallas would have been missing out on a decade long, all-pro talent at guard that turned their OL into the best in the league last year. They also would have missed out on having that all-pro talent at a bargain basement price for 5 out of those 10 seasons.

So, in this scenario, you could have had AP for a couple/three years paying him at the very top of his position group... and three years would be feeling like you got him longer than you figured.

Or

You could have a 23 year old all-pro and pay him at the very bottom of his position group for 5 years, and then you would have the inside track to resign him to his second contract for 8 or so more years, like Dallas did with Tyron Smith.

When GM's and coaches (and fans) think about their first round pick, they think about that scenario I wrote above.

In 2010 (Dez), 2011 (Tyron Smith), 2013 (Travis Frederick), and 2014 (Zack Martin) the Cowboys would have been royally screwing themselves by trading any one of those picks for a 30 year old vet RB who was expensive as all hell, and only had 2 or 3 years left to even play the game at an acceptable level. It would be insanity to want to do that.

And that isn't even bringing up the fact that RB is probably the easiest position to fill in all of football.

If things go the way we expect them to, we will be getting the 30-32 pick in the draft. If I could give that up to increase the odds of this team winning a Super Bowl in the next three years, I do that. That is not a waste of a 30-32 pick. I'd actually say that was a smart use of it.

One, it is bad mojo to sit here in may and say we should be picking 30-32.

Second, Dallas just used the 31st pick in the draft a couple of years ago and all they did was get the best center in pro football locked up for 5 years at a cheap price and will surely re-sign him to a second contract that will keep him in Dallas for his entire career.

If the Vikings offered Dallas AP and next year's first round pick for Frederick, I would straight up laugh in their face... and I might would fly to Minnesota, find their team headquarters and slap someone.

The whole idea of trading a first round pick to the Vikes for AP is nuts for any team, IMO. For a team that has been knocking high picks out of the park for the last half decade... it is sheer lunacy.
 

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Also, everyone wanted to draft Ajayi in the 2nd or 3rd round, knowing that his knees might just give us a few years with him. Basically the same shelf life as AD. Would you rather have the proven best RB in the NFL for 2-3 years with the 30-32 pick in the draft or a questionable rookie with upside for 2-3 years in the 2nd round? Give me AD. Yet, one is considered a dumb move, and the other is considered a value get.

So, so much can go wrong between week 1 and week 17 in an NFL season. We'd be far from a sure thing. The better path is to do everything the right way and to not take huge risks with resources. Use them wisely, instead, and stay in contention for a much longer period of time. You trade away the pick you want to use otherwise on Romo's replacement, for example, and you might end up missing out in your dream season and then scrambling to replace a missing first round pick on your roster for the next four years. All for the RB position, which is the easiest position to fill on offense and which usually relies on multiple players, anyway.
 

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I think with the addition ofq Collins..

surely a top 10 pick in this years draft..

We have another # 1 pick in hand at a very affordable price.

So letting next years go now and getting a guy like AP would make sense.why not trade it now for help.

If the team plays well again this year..

That #1 pick will be again a #27 or higher and not be as much impact as our #27 this year.

Why not tell the Vikes who are trying to rebuild anyway.?

I think they would be crazy not to jump on it.
 

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I think with the addition ofq Collins..

surely a top 10 pick in this years draft..

We have another # 1 pick in hand at a very affordable price.

So letting next years go now and getting a guy like AP would make sense.why not trade it now for help.

If the team plays well again this year..

That #1 pick will be again a #27 or higher and not be as much impact as our #27 this year.

Why not tell the Vikes who are trying to rebuild anyway.?

I think they would be crazy not to jump on it.
With AP's salary, you're losing one of either Dez, Hardy, or T.Crawford next off-season.

Would you trade Byron Jones and Greg Hardy for AP? Because that's ultimately what it comes down to. A late first rounder and re-signing a big time FA, or AP.
 

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With AP's salary, you're losing one of either Dez, Hardy, or T.Crawford next off-season.

Would you trade Byron Jones and Greg Hardy for AP? Because that's ultimately what it comes down to. A late first rounder and a big time FA, or AP.

I'm not sure it really simplifies like that.

But in the same vein..

not having that #1 pick next year means a savings on the cap next year.
 

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If this team continues making good decisions, the window should always be open. There is no need to make stupid decisions that will ruin the future of the team. It is only worth it if the trade is reasonable.

Wrong! If you don't have a QB you don't have crap. Just look at the distribution of power in the NFL and it bears out every time.
 

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I'm not sure it really simplifies like that.

But in the same vein..

not having that #1 pick next year means a savings on the cap next year.
Yeah that's what it boils down to. Unless you think AP is going to play here for peanuts (he won't), we won't be able to re-sign everyone.

And late first round draft picks hardly make a dent on the salary cap, are you kidding me?

We have an all-pro center playing on a 4 year, 6.8 million dollar contract. Frederick's one of the biggest bargains in the league. Last year's #27 pick Deone Bucannon signed a 4 year, 7.7 mil contract. Making less than 2 mil a year annually.
 
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