Jerry Jones speculates that Greg Hardy may be innocent of domestic violence

[zrinkill]

I also find it hilarious how when Hardy becomes a Cowboy ...... mrtxstar suddenly knows he is innocent ...... but when he as still a panther ....... mrtxstar knew he was guilty and paid off and threatened he girl to stay quiet.

In this thread
http://cowboyszone.com/threads/repo...ers-charges-dismissed-02-09-15.315009/page-18

Any comment on this mrxstar?

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I also find it hilarious how when Hardy becomes a Cowboy ...... mrtxstar suddenly knows he is innocent ...... but when he as still a panther ....... mrtxstar knew he was guilty and paid off and threatened he girl to stay quiet.

Hardy wasn't a Panther in February of 2015, he was a free agent.

 

[zrinkill]

Hardy wasn't a Panther in February of 2015, he was a free agent.

Point is he was not a Cowboy yet ....... which is all that matters to mrxstar.

 

[MRV52]

I wish Jerry would have shut his mouth on this issue. Take the 4 games and move on, we don't need anymore negative controversies.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Point is he was not a Cowboy yet ....... which is all that matters to mrxstar.

until he was a cowboy, I didn't really dig into the details of the case. of course that means I didn't argue his guilt or innocence.

the only fact I care about is he voluntarily associated with coked up "girlfriends", so I don't find him of high character at all, and won't bother to defend him against character attacks. I question the sanity of anyone that does...unless they know him personally.

I will say men have a hard go at it when charges of these kinds come in a court of law

 

[erod]

OJ didn't do it either.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones believes defensive end Greg Hardy may not have been convicted of domestic violence because he is innocent.

Hardy was initially found guilty of domestic violence in a North Carolina court before a re-trial dismissed him of charges when his accuser did not show up to court. It has been reported that Hardy and his accuser reached a civil settlement.

"We really did our homework and our investigations," Jones told Bernard Goldberg on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel. "And the facts are that he was not convicted."

After the interviewer responded that Hardy wasn't convicted because his accuser was a no-show in the second trial, Jones speculated that Hardy wasn't convicted because he was innocent.

"Yes, well, you could say that," Jones said. "But he might not have been convicted because he didn't do it."

http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/835984?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yes, Jerra, he beat the rap. And he likely beat up a fellow human bean.

 

[zrinkill]

until he was a cowboy, I didn't really dig into the details of the case. of course that means I didn't argue his guilt or innocence.

the only fact I care about is he voluntarily associated with coked up "girlfriends", so I don't find him of high character at all, and won't bother to defend him against character attacks. I question the sanity of anyone that does...unless they know him personally.

I will say men have a hard go at it when charges of these kinds come in a court of law

That post was not directed at you ...... it as directed at the guy who attacked me and claimed I did not know what I was talking about and that Hardy was obviously railroaded. Of course he only took on that view when Hardy became a Cowboy.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

OJ didn't do it either.

He loved her too mush.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

That post was not directed at you ...... it as directed at the guy who attacked me and claimed I did not know what I was talking about and that Hardy was obviously railroaded. Of course he only took on that view when Hardy became a Cowboy.

he really was railroaded though.

he has lost out on 19 NFL games, and the press freely writes about how he paid off his victim, which is not a fact it is speculation. They don't focus on the absolute fact that the prosecution had the victims testimony and could of proceeded with a trial without her being present. Happens all the time.

 

[zrinkill]

he really was railroaded though.

he has lost out on 19 NFL games, and the press freely writes about how he paid off his victim, which is not a fact it is speculation. They don't focus on the absolute fact that the prosecution had the victims testimony and could of proceeded with a trial without her being present. Happens all the time.

I am not denying that maybe he was ...... but I guarantee that if Jason Witten or Demarcus Ware was accused of this and not convicted ....... they would fight any suspension that was coming.

I do not buy the whole he is trying to be politically correct ........ if he did nothing wrong he should be screaming it to the heavens.

 

[Clarkson]

it's likely the truth lies somewhere in between the two stories told.
no one but a select few people knows exactly what happened.
You can sit there and cast stones as the perfect person you are, or acknowledge you'll never really know and hope the issue doesn't come up again and that if he did do it, he's turned his life around in that aspect.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I am not denying that maybe he was ...... but I guarantee that if Jason Witten or Demarcus Ware was accused of this and not convicted ....... they would fight any suspension that was coming.

I do not buy the whole he is trying to be politically correct ........ if he did nothing wrong he should be screaming it to the heavens.

he clearly did something wrong - he put himself in that position by associating with bad elements.

 

[tyke1doe]

There are a lot of factors to weigh. Public relations is important and how it affects the marketing of a player and team are two. It's possible bringing it all up again would do more harm than good. With the witness unavailable it's not very likely he could totally prove his innocence. If he was. Furthermore, it wouldn't change anyone's minds. He's been convicted in the court of public opinion and those so sure won't be swayed.

I'm sure experts in these areas have advised him not to pursue it further. Now whether he did it or not. I don't know. I have heard about the girl and her character. That casts some doubt. The prosecuted could've continued with the case without her and elected not to. I also heard the 911 call and that casts much more doubt.

We don't always agree, but this is a good, fair post.

 

[TheDude]

And he should have recorded it ........ then he would not have been found guilty in his first trial.

That Is easier said than done if it just spontaneously happens. Also. Isn't that setting the bar pretty high to support innocence vs proving guilt?

 

[zrinkill]

That Is easier said than done if it just spontaneously happens. Also. Isn't that setting the bar pretty high to support innocence vs proving guilt?

I am not talking bout innocence or guilty ...... but the guy is still being punished ...... if he had filmed what happened he would have been vindicated and not punished by the league.

 

[TheDude]

I am not talking bout innocence or guilty ...... but the guy is still being punished ...... if he had filmed what happened he would have been vindicated and not punished by the league.

It would have helped, but I dont think it should be a baseline expectation for guilt or innocence. This statement is a tenet, agnostic to this case.

 

[TheDude]

OJ didn't do it either.

Neither did these guys......point?
http://www.criminaljusticedegreesguide.com/features/10-infamous-cases-of-wrongful-execution.html

 

[Clarkson]

I am not talking bout innocence or guilty ...... but the guy is still being punished ...... if he had filmed what happened he would have been vindicated and not punished by the league.

filmed what happened?
what?
this is a silly suggestion.

 

[zrinkill]

filmed what happened?
what?
this is a silly suggestion.

Filming the woman tearing up your house like he claims with his or a member of his "posse"'s phone is silly?

Ok .........