Jerry Just Interviewed on ESPN 2: Mentions WOW Player Again...

[big dog cowboy]

oh great - just what the parakeets needed to rekindle dead horse convos.

You mean...

:horse:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

totally agree. the guy just looks like marcus allen reincarnate. no way al davis passes on him with only justin fargas to carry the load.

Well, the other side of that is that while Al Davis picked Allen, he pretty much did pass on him by simply sitting him down and not playing him.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, in truth, this will not be a very well received statement but never the less, I think it's a true statement. A guy who will probably be available at 22 or probably 28 is John Sullivan. John is a Center who will be available to us and could make the biggest impact for our team. Sullivan is a true Pro Center IMO. He's a guy who can deep snap. A guy who can play strong at the position and allow Gurode to be moved to Guard. I mean, if you want to really impact, that is a guy who you could draft and he would be a force in our offense. This guy is going to be a great player, IMO. Would fix a couple of issues, including Gurode's seemingly inability to get the deep snap figured out. I know Gurode is a Pro Bowl Center but honestly, I could easily see him being a Pro Bowl Guard as well. It would actually suit him better IMO. Would solidify the line as well.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

For those who thought this was some kind of new term from Jerry... This is from April of 2007.

Wow! Boys may trade up

By MAC ENGEL
Star-Telegram Staff Writer


IRVINGHis Cowboys have peaked at mediocrity for more than a decade, so Jerry Jones has pondered, considered and re-evaluated the way he has done and does things with his football team.


The hiring of Bill Parcells as his coach was an obvious change of thinking. Now, Jones is considering something else: trading up in the draft, instead of the opposite.


In an effort to acquire the "wow" player he so desires, Jones would be willing to package something to move up, he said Monday.


"We do have our bases covered so if there were a player we could reach -- big if, big if -- that could come in and make the obvious impact, then that should be a consideration," Jones said Monday in a 60-minute session with the media.


Jones figures the only way to select a wow player -- of which he believes there are eight or nine in this draft -- he has to be around the top 10.
It's a drastic change of thought for Jones, who has practiced the art of trading down rather than up in recent drafts. Jones wants an impact player -- a starter -- in the first round, and, in his mind, the best way to grab such a player is to pick high.


"I'm looking at the possibility of, and probably more seriously considering it than I ever have, doing some bundling up and trading up," Jones said.
Jones said there are already two offers to trade out of the first round and receive a first-round pick next year.


But, if the Cowboys have a player they prefer and he's close, Jones sounds as if he would move up to draft him. There is precedent in the Jones' era Cowboys for such a move.


Jones and then coach Jimmy Johnson did it in 1990 when Florida running back Emmitt Smith began falling, and they sent a first-round pick (No. 21) and a third-rounder to Pittsburgh to take the NFL's eventual career leading rusher with the 17th pick. The Cowboys also traded up in 1991 (to take defensive tackle Russell Maryland at No. 1), '94 (defensive end Shante Carver at No. 23) and '97 (tight end David LaFleur at No. 22), but haven't done so since.


With 10 picks in this draft, Jones has quantity available to deal. But he does not want to mortgage anything from the 2008 picks to move up in 2007.


As to where he prefers the impact player play -- offense or defense -- he continues to lean toward the former.


"He needs to be someone that has something extra, and I think that, to some degree, receiver would fall there," Jones said, also mentioning cornerback and running back.


What are some possible scenarios for the "wow" player Jones desires?
Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson. Yes, the Cowboys already have Julius Jones and Marion Barber, but should Peterson fall, as expected, to the 10th spot, don't rule it out.


Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas. O-lineman don't scream wow, but, with Flozell Adams possibly in his final season with the Cowboys, the pick might scream necessity.


Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson. But Johnson is expected to be one of the top three picks, a price that Jones admits is too high.
Defensive backs LaRon Landry (LSU) or Leon Hall (Michigan). One might be the more likely scenario.


In any scenario, Jones is going to have to find the right partner. The days of trading Herschel Walker to Minnesota for a ton of draft picks are even older than the Cowboys' last Super Bowl trophy.


But, with a team settled with a starter at every major position except fullback, Jones wants a player who can start immediately and provide pop. If he can't find that, don't expect a deal.


Jones still wants a receiver, and, in his mind, he can find a good one in the first day of the draft. But only Johnson is considered to be the immediate dynamic receiving playmaker Jones covets.


"The record shows," Jones said, "that those real high picks have the better odds and usually have a bigger impact."


So it might be time to deal.

 

[LatinMind]

its amazing this thread is this big because it contains the word wow.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

For those who thought this was some kind of new term from Jerry... This is from April of 2007.

Good find CL. I appreciate it.

That shows article that Jerry has been thinking this way for a while.

A new ingredient I see is that this year he knows he has the QB position solidified and he said in October that makes him more aggressive adding other pieces to the puzzle.

But of more significance, imo, is the fact that this year Jerry has 2 #1 picks to deal with and that gives him more ammo than he had last year when he was looking into the cost of moving up to get Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson.

 

[Iago33]

Well, in truth, this will not be a very well received statement but never the less, I think it's a true statement. A guy who will probably be available at 22 or probably 28 is John Sullivan. John is a Center who will be available to us and could make the biggest impact for our team. Sullivan is a true Pro Center IMO.

I think you could be right. In fact, I would be very surprised if we are not very surprised by one of our two first round picks...

 

[theebs]

Are we sure he is not talking about drafting a player that likes to play World of Warcraft?

maybe its one of these guys

 

[Bigdog]

It wont be for any of the top 3 picks...the Raiders are the first legtimiate shot IMO to trade up with. Because they've spent so much money (and may be spending more on Hall) they might really want out of the 4th spot, and could be convinced to take less that perceived equal value to move down. they also have the memory of the long holdout Jemarcus Russell had last yr fresh on their mind. KC wouldnt take McFadden at 5, so he could get to the Jets pick. If he gets to 6-7-8 a trade up becomes closer to pissible IMO.

That said, I really think the Raiders will just take him at 4, and if for some incredibly dumb reason they didnt, there's not much chance the Jets pass on him

David

the sports shows have discussed this at great length out here. The consesus is that if the Raiders do not take McFadden, it could be the worst move in the history of the draft.

 

[junk]

Well, in truth, this will not be a very well received statement but never the less, I think it's a true statement. A guy who will probably be available at 22 or probably 28 is John Sullivan. John is a Center who will be available to us and could make the biggest impact for our team. Sullivan is a true Pro Center IMO. He's a guy who can deep snap. A guy who can play strong at the position and allow Gurode to be moved to Guard. I mean, if you want to really impact, that is a guy who you could draft and he would be a force in our offense. This guy is going to be a great player, IMO. Would fix a couple of issues, including Gurode's seemingly inability to get the deep snap figured out. I know Gurode is a Pro Bowl Center but honestly, I could easily see him being a Pro Bowl Guard as well. It would actually suit him better IMO. Would solidify the line as well.

Gurode was a borderline bust at guard. He didn't really revive his career until he moved to center.

John Sullivan is probably a third round prospect as well.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Gurode was a borderline bust at guard. He didn't really revive his career until he moved to center.

John Sullivan is probably a third round prospect as well.

John Sullivan is a solid 2nd round prospect and the best rated Center in this draft.

Gurode played Guard at a time when he was more effected by people no longer on this team. Not a positive effect, IMO. I think it is a mistake to say that he would not be a good Guard. The truth is that he has not really been tried at Guard since the departure of certain players from the team. He was not a very good Center at that time either. Clearly, he has improved. There is no reason Gurode should not be able to play Guard for us. It is an easier position then Center. It's about attitude IMO. I don't think Gurode has that problem any longer.

 

[Verdict]

While trading picks to get McFadden looks good, I think it is a bad idea. It will cost way too much to get him in picks and/or players and salary cap.

It would make a lot more sense for Jones' WOW player to be Roy Williams (WR Detroit). The ONLY negative I see is the salary cap hit it will take to sign him.

Here are the positives:

1. Roy williams is a known commodity in the NFL, and a potential game breaker, much like T. O.
2. Trading for R.W. will not cost much in the way of compensation (picks)
3. He is young enough that he is a potential replacement for T.O. in a few years.
4. He would make our passing game "sick" (sick means good in this context).
5. Since we get our "wow" player with minimal compensation we could improve our team immensely, and, at the same time keep our options open to wheel and deal on draft day, possibly trading up or down, or out of the first round entirely with one of the picks. It also enables us to draft a potential starter so that we could have the option of letting a high priced veteran go rather than resigning him a year or two down the road.

An example of this is we might select a corner, a running back and a safety with the first 3 picks and let Henry, Roy Williams, and Maybe Barber go a year or so down the road. (I'm not saying we will or should, but it does leave us with lots of options).

 

[TheCount]

Well, in truth, this will not be a very well received statement but never the less, I think it's a true statement. A guy who will probably be available at 22 or probably 28 is John Sullivan.

He's a projected 2-3rd round prospect, so regardless I don't see how he's to be considered in the first round, much less the 22nd pick.

I think that is where you may be finding the most resistance to this statement.

John Sullivan is a solid 2nd round prospect and the best rated Center in this draft.

Actually Mike Pollak is the highest rated center in this draft, as far as I've seen, not that I know much about him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The consesus is that if the Raiders do not take McFadden, it could be the worst move in the history of the draft.

But is Al listening to the radio or his phone ringing?

 

[Dhragon]

John Sullivan is a solid 2nd round prospect and the best rated Center in this draft.

Gurode played Guard at a time when he was more effected by people no longer on this team. Not a positive effect, IMO. I think it is a mistake to say that he would not be a good Guard. The truth is that he has not really been tried at Guard since the departure of certain players from the team. He was not a very good Center at that time either. Clearly, he has improved. There is no reason Gurode should not be able to play Guard for us. It is an easier position then Center. It's about attitude IMO. I don't think Gurode has that problem any longer.

Is Sullivan related to you or something? Why the pimpage when it's been obvious Gurode's best position by far is center. Gurode wasn't very good at guard, but he's been a Probowl center. Yeah, let's use a high draft pick on a center to replace our Probowl center and move that Probowler to a position he's not good at.

 

[Dhragon]

While trading picks to get McFadden looks good, I think it is a bad idea. It will cost way too much to get him in picks and/or players and salary cap.

It would make a lot more sense for Jones WOW player to be Roy Williams (WR Detroit). The ONLY negative I see is the salary cap hit it will take to sign him.

Here are the positives:

1. Roy williams is a known commodity in the NFL, and a potential game breaker, much like T. O.
2. Trading for R.W. will not cost much in the way of compensation (picks)
3. He is young enough that he is a potential replacement for T.O. in a few years.
4. He would make our passing game "sick" (sick means good in this context).
5. Since we get our wow player with minimal compensation we could improve our team immensely, and, at the same time keep out optopns open to wheel and deal on draft day, possibly trading up or down, or out of the first round entirely with one of the picks. It also enables us to draft a potential starter so that we could have the option of letting a high prived veteran go rather than resigning him a year or two down the road.

An example of this is we might select a corner, a running back and a safety with the first 3 picks and let Henry, Roy Williams, and Maybe Barber go a year or so down the road. (I'm not saying we will or should, but it does leave us with lots of options).

I agree that Roy Williams WR > McFadden in terms of additional impact on our offense and would not take quite the amount of high picks to get as well. I'd take either though.

 

[CATCH17]

This has to at least make you entertain the thought that Dallas wants Malcolm Kelly.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

And that makes him a "Wow" player?

no, his explosiveness and playmaking ability as both a receiver and punt-returner does

jeez dude, inform yourself

 

[LucaBrasi]

For those who thought this was some kind of new term from Jerry... This is from April of 2007.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jerry confirm after the draft last year that the Cowboys had a deal in place to move in to the top 5 of the draft but they decided not to go through with it. Speculation was the deal was with Detroit and involved us trading DeMarcus Ware, so we could draft Calvin Johnson.
I might be like Andy Pettite and "mis-remembering" things.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Is Sullivan related to you or something? Why the pimpage when it's been obvious Gurode's best position by far is center. Gurode wasn't very good at guard, but he's been a Probowl center. Yeah, let's use a high draft pick on a center to replace our Probowl center and move that Probowler to a position he's not good at.

Explain your reasoning for this statement. I've already provided the reason behind why Gurode was not very good at Guard (or Center for that matter). Sullivan is not related to me but anybody who watched ND this year will tell you that Sullivan is a fine player, IMO. We need Guards. We need a Center who can deep snap. What is the easiest way to accomidate both and get an impact player in our current situation?

When I posted this, I knew it would not be popular. Having said that, you will have to do much better then just throwing out what you have most recently posted. Fact remains, when we tried Gurode at Guard a couple of seasons ago, his issues were not physical. They were driven by the fact that he was being influenced by players who are no longer with the team. May I remind you that Gurode was also tried at Center and failed. So far as I can tell, there is no reason to think he can not play Guard. We need to make improvements in our OL. The value may be at Center. May also be Guard but certainly, we have issues with our "Pro Bowl" Center. The fact that he can't seem to overcome his difficulties with the shot gun snap are primary here. Unless we are going to take that out of our offense (Which is very unlikely), another solution must be found. He must either learn to overcome this or we need to get a Center who can make that play.

I'm listening. Please support your position.