Jerry throwing everyone under the bus

[TheMarathonContinues]

1. I absolutely love his transparency. It's strategic in nature. It's not like he's telling us what they're going to do before they do it. He is giving his opinion of moves that are made. No issues here with that. I love to hear the stories of how decisions come about.

2. I wanted Lynch but, when that fell through, I was elated to know we didn't get the career NFL clipboard holder non leader non team captain Cook.

3. What Jerry has done is added even more fuel to a Dak that wanted to come here and now feels he needs to go just that much further to prove he belongs in Big D. He will trip over himself proving that they made the right choice.

Right. Jerry is not as stupid as people want you to think. He may not be a great talent evaluator but he's not a morn. He carefully and intentionally says things in the media.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Jerry is the GM and Owner. Of course he's going to talk about sell outs and things owners talk about. We already know we have a different situation with Jerry and the Cowboys. Its been this way long before now and shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

Jerry takes the bullet for wanting Manziel but I guarantee you he wasn't the only one in that scouting department that wanted him over Martin. I'm just thankful he listened to whoever is responsible whether it be his son, McClay or Garrett or whoever. Someone has a powerful voice.

Stephan did gush about Manziel very early in the process in 2014. I believe the Manziel to Dallas link actually started with praise from Stephan, not Jerry

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If anyone else besides Jones wanted Manziel...they should immediately be fired and never allowed to work in the NFL again.

Why? Manziel's talent isn't in question. He can play football. Just like Justin Blackmon and just like Josh Gordon. What's in between the ears is where the problem is at. Jerry and whoever else underrated that. They were wrong. That happens. But Manziel was a 1st round talent. I didn't want him but i'm not going to act like he couldn't play football at A&M.

 

[speedkilz88]

Maybe Dak Prescott will work harder knowing that he wasn't the Cowboys' first choice.

I think Dak is smart enough to realize that he wasn't their first choice.

I don't think it bothered Emmitt Smith a whole lot that Jimmy Johnson wanted someone else originally on draft day.

Emmitt did come in with a chip on his shoulder though. Tom Brady did as well after being a 6th round pick.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

1. I absolutely love his transparency. It's strategic in nature. It's not like he's telling us what they're going to do before they do it. He is giving his opinion of moves that are made. No issues here with that. I love to hear the stories of how decisions come about.

2. I wanted Lynch but, when that fell through, I was elated to know we didn't get the career NFL clipboard holder non leader non team captain Cook.

3. What Jerry has done is added even more fuel to a Dak that wanted to come here and now feels he needs to go just that much further to prove he belongs in Big D. He will trip over himself proving that they made the right choice.

Transparency is for teams that are trying to sell something other than winning. You do not hear this stuff from the teams that are winning. It was RUMORED that the Ravens wanted Laremy Tunsill...has the GM come right out and said it?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Stephan did gush about Manziel very early in the process in 2014. I believe the Manziel to Dallas link actually started with praise from Stephan, not Jerry

Hmm...interesting. I think Stephen though is less likely to try and override his scouts though. But it doesn't shock me that Stephen felt this way. It looks bad in hindsight but MAnziel was a top QB prospect undersized and all.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Right. Jerry is not as stupid as people want you to think. He may not be a great talent evaluator but he's not a morn. He carefully and intentionally says things in the media.

You dont make billions of dollars being a moron.

And how big was the return on his investment on the Cowboys purchase? 1 billion+?....conservative figure

 

[Risen Star]

He has admitted that he wanted Paxton Lynch.....then Connor Cook. Hope Dak enjoys coming to work knowing he was an afterthought.

And he has complained about NOT overpaying to get Lynch. Which is his way of letting everyone else know that if it was up to him, he would have overpaid. So not sure if this is good or bad....but it certainly confirms Jerry is not pulling the strings. He is letting us know that if Paxton Lynch turns out to be a stud...."don't blame me".

But this is what it boils down to for me. He should show a united front. What's done is done. And you don't let your new players know that you really wanted someone else. And you don't out the front office/coaching staff by letting everyone know you disagreed with the direction they took. Of course this stuff happens....but the quality organizations don't come out and SAY it.

There is too much transparency. We are an open book. It is simply unprofessional. And I know nothing can be done about it...but if you cannot muzzle him after all these years.....I think it will get even worse as he starts to circle the drain.

LOL. I love the fantasy you guys live in.

It is up to him. He's the owner and the GM. He said he probably should have overpaid. Not that he wasn't allowed to.

 

[BigStar]

Prescott was the back up to the back up plan. And the plan was probably the back up plan after the trades to #1 and 2 took Goff and Wentz out of contention.

Something tells me we will draft our QB of the future in 2017 and leave that draft without a 2018 first

2018 1st and MUCH more unless we are @ 4 again Might be RG3 redux in terms of exchange of picks needed depending on how healthy Romo is in 16'. This was the year to do it. Fanbase heads back in sand until next draft.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Transparency is for teams that are trying to sell something other than winning. You do not hear this stuff from the teams that are winning. It was RUMORED that the Ravens wanted Laremy Tunsill...has the GM come right out and said it?

The Ravens have their own problem. Didn't their GM come out and say that they listen to ESPN scouts like Mel Kiper and Todd McShay and look at mock drafts from sports writers to dictate how they will draft?

 

[CATCH17]

He has admitted that he wanted Paxton Lynch.....then Connor Cook. Hope Dak enjoys coming to work knowing he was an afterthought.

And he has complained about NOT overpaying to get Lynch. Which is his way of letting everyone else know that if it was up to him, he would have overpaid. So not sure if this is good or bad....but it certainly confirms Jerry is not pulling the strings. He is letting us know that if Paxton Lynch turns out to be a stud...."don't blame me".

But this is what it boils down to for me. He should show a united front. What's done is done. And you don't let your new players know that you really wanted someone else. And you don't out the front office/coaching staff by letting everyone know you disagreed with the direction they took. Of course this stuff happens....but the quality organizations don't come out and SAY it.

There is too much transparency. We are an open book. It is simply unprofessional. And I know nothing can be done about it...but if you cannot muzzle him after all these years.....I think it will get even worse as he starts to circle the drain.

As a fan I love the transparency.

I've heard within NFL circles there isn't a lot of secrets anyways and you'd be surprised the information other teams give each other.

Jerrys been around long enough that maybe he just doesn't view transparency in some areas as a big deal and actually just gets people talking.



Kinda like the Manziel thing. I don't think the Cowboys wanted Manziel at all though. I believe that was made up to get people talking.

We turned in 2 cards.. Ryan Shazier and Zack Martin. Not Johnny Manziel.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

But THAT is precisely the problem. He has become such a polarizing figure...that he is more interested in looking good/being right...than winning. It confirms that he is aware of his reputation in football circles...and that he is STILL looking for validation. Again...he is so delusional...that he complained about passing Manziel. I wish I could make this up. How can ANYONE lament not drafting Johnny Manziel?

I didn't see him complain about Manziel. If Jerry wanted Manziel this strongly eh would've been a Cowboy. We all know that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I dunno, never took that angle into consideration tbh...Let THEM make the mistakes narrative, or I deferred and proved you all wrong. Not bad idea. That Johnnie Walker makes me doubt it though; him ever being that calculating.

He's not on that Johnnie Walker 24/7 though lol.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Hmm...interesting. I think Stephen though is less likely to try and override his scouts though. But it doesn't shock me that Stephen felt this way. It looks bad in hindsight but MAnziel was a top QB prospect undersized and all.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-star/Cowboys-VP-Johnny-Manziel-is-the-Whole-Package-247092111.html

Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones won’t kid himself into thinking the team has a chance at Johnny Manziel--even if they were in a position to draft the 2012 Heisman winner, they probably wouldn’t, because they have a lot of far more pressing needs--but he believes whoever gets Johnny Football is getting a potential superstar.

“I think he’s going to be a star in this league. I think he’s going to be very successful,” Jones said, per the Dallas Morning News. “I think he’s a great competitor and I think he’s going to have an unbelievable career.”

Most experts believe Manziel will be a top five pick, and there actually seems a decent chance that he’ll be taken first overall by the Texans. He met with the Cowboys at the Scouting Combine, but that’s all but certainly the closest he’ll come to joining the team.

“To me, he’s the whole package,” Jones said. “A lot of people say, ‘Well, you’d like him to be two inches taller’ or this or that, but there’s been a couple guys to win Super Bowls as of late between Russell Wilson and Drew Brees that are his height, if not shorter. I don’t think that’s going to be an issue for Johnny.

“Obviously there’s going to be some things that clubs are going to want to see him clean up in terms of off the field. But these are young men who are maturing every day. I think he’ll mature into a great quarterback in this league.”

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Why? Manziel's talent isn't in question. He can play football. Just like Justin Blackmon and just like Josh Gordon. What's in between the ears is where the problem is at. Jerry and whoever else underrated that. They were wrong. That happens. But Manziel was a 1st round talent. I didn't want him but i'm not going to act like he couldn't play football at A&M.

I strongly disagree that Johnny Manziel was a 1st round talent. It took one preseason game....against the Washington Commanders....where Johnny Manziel tried his scrambling acrobat bit...and got walked down by 50 year old Ryan Clark...who was in his last season in the NFL....to confirm what I already knew. On top of that...being drafted in THAT division was a recipe for disaster. He would have NEVER held up physically in that environment. If you recall the magical year RG3 had his rookie year....if you go back and watch the games he played against the AFC North...they were a disaster. He actually got knocked out by Baltimore and thus could not play against Cleveland..but that division showed you EXACTLY what to do against a read option QB....and they showed Kapernick in the Super Bowl as well. Kapernick was crying to the ref after every play...and eventually just gave up on running the read option...because the Ravens were lighting is a** up!

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Time for Jerry to throw Cowboy fans a bone and let us chew on his draft board. No harm letting us fans take a look at it now. Good for the sport. I wish all teams did that.

Scouts would love it too because they get to put their name to their work and don't remain anonymous.

 

[USMarineVet]

If anything, it should put a chip on Dak's shoulder. He should be thankful for the opportunity, go out, play ball and prove everyone wrong. Dak has been pretty transparent himself in the past with the Romo comments. All the man needs to do is go out there, take his reps, hold his clipboard and listen and learn.

Dak knows that he hurt his drafting status with the DUI. He should be humble and make the most of his opportunity. If he can't withstand Jerry's comments, put them behind him, and focus on the job at hand, he doesn't deserve to be a QB in the NFL. Especially with the limelight that comes along with being a QB in Dallas.

I'f flick it off like a bug and move on.

 

[darthseinfeld]

2018 1st and MUCH more unless we are @ 4 again Might be RG3 redux in terms of exchange of picks needed depending on how healthy Romo is in 16'. This was the year to do it.

Hard to say what the class looks like. If we are lucky you may get a Chad Kelly that gets out of the top 10

 

[Cowboys22]

I think we should all be ecstatic that Jerry is no longer running the personnel department with an iron fist approach. Imagine trading our 2nd and 3rd for a raw QB you hope never plays for 4-5 years. That would mean not adding any defensive help until the 4th round. That a classic Jerry Jones move from 10 years ago. Anytime I hear that Jerry is upset because they missed out on something he wanted, I'm happy. If it was up to Jones, we would have lived the Manziel fiasco up close and personal.

 

[DTown214]

When Jerry said he regreated not overpaying for Lynch, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that someone else in management stopped him from doing it. He probably just decided not to overpay, and now he's having second thoughts on his desicion. I'm so glad we didnt overpay though. Apparently we offered our 2nd and 3rd and it wasn't enough. So "overpaying" probably meant our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th picks for Lynch. So Lynch instead of Jaylon Smith, Maliek Collins, and Charles Tapper. Oh boy that would've sucked.