Jerry tried to Trade Romo but Couldn't

[thisiscowboyscountry]

If they are making him a June 1 designation there is no reason to cut him tomorrow.

Right there, cutting him tomorrow and making him a June 1 casts doubt on the seriousness of Jerry wanting to really trade Romo.

He wants to give Romo as much time as possible to find a new home. It's just that simple.

If he was serious on trading him, hold him for a few more weeks or months. Then cut him as a last resort.

Exactly, no reason to cut him now as a June 1st cut. Hold him and let other teams grow impatient to see if that increases compensation. If the June 1st money was available immediately I may feel differently...

 

[irishline]

Romo's salary cap impact with release tomorrow--designated June 1
-$10.7 million on the 2017 cap
- $8.9 million on the 2018 cap

He actually counts $24.7 million towards the cap until June 2nd if they release him with a June 1 designation. It does not happen tomorrow as you said above...

"But, that's where the post-June 1 designation offers a false promise. It does save a team money - just not when they would want it. The player is still carried on the books until June 2. In other words, there is no savings for the team during free agency. They do not see salary cap relief until they pass the June 1 mark."

http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/2/18/8057333/nfl-free-agency-201-post-june-cuts-explanation

While it is a Dolphins sight it is accurate information:

Article 13, Section 6 (b) (ii) Acceleration.
(1) For any player removed from the Team's roster, or whose Contract is assigned to another Club via waivers or trade, on or before June 1 in any League Year prior to the Final League Year, or at any time during the Final League Year, any unamortized signing bonus amounts will be included in Team Salary for such League Year, except that for each League Year preceding the Final League Year, each Club may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1 and if not renegotiated after the last regular season game of the prior League Year, shall be treated (except to the extent prescribed by Section 6(d) (iv) below) as if terminated on June 2, i.e., the Salary Cap charge for each such contract will remain in the Club's Team Salary until June 2, at which time its Paragraph 5 Salary and any unearned LTBE incentives will no longer be counted and any unamortized signing bonus will be treated as set forth in Subsection (2) below. If acceleration puts a Team over the Salary Cap, the Team will have seven days to conform with the Salary Cap, but may not sign any players until there is Room to do so under the Salary Cap.

 

[Alexander]

I have yet to see any account where Jones "tried" to trade Romo.

But I am sure more mysterious details will come out in the next few days.

Jones has some damage control to do.

 

[aria]

Yeah. 37 year old QBs with considerable injury histories always fly off the shelves

Peyton was 36 when he went to the Broncos, with injury histor, and I would say it turned out alright for him.

 

[T-RO]

He actually counts $24.7 million until June 2nd if they release him a June 1 designation. It does not happen tomorrow as you said above...

"But, that's where the post-June 1 designation offers a false promise. It does save a team money - just not when they would want it. The player is still carried on the books until June 2. In other words, there is no savings for the team during free agency. They do not see salary cap relief until they pass the June 1 mark."

http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/2/18/8057333/nfl-free-agency-201-post-june-cuts-explanation

While it is a Dolphins sight it is accurate information.

There have been recent rule changes and I haven't studied the details. You could be correct. But let's keep in mind that even so those funds absolutely help us this offseason.

1. It allows us to use those funds for rookie contracts.
2. We can use those funds to lock Martin into a longterm deal

So the team will likely use every penny it can on free agents, knowing they'll have a big slush fund for rookies and Martin.

 

[irishline]

There have been recent rule changes and I haven't studied the details. You could be correct. But let's keep in mind that even so those funds absolutely help us this offseason.

1. It allows us to use those funds for rookie contracts.
2. We can use those funds to lock Martin into a longterm deal

So the team will likely use every penny it can on free agents, knowing they'll have a big slush fund for rookies and Martin.

That last part is directly from the NFL rule book. Yes it allows you to spend it on anything after June 2nd. But you still do not realize the saving until then and cannot use it for free agency tomorrow. And that every penny is still 9 million minus Brice.

Completely agree on the Martin and rookies though.

 

[AbeBeta]

Peyton was 36 when he went to the Broncos, with injury histor, and I would say it turned out alright for him.

And what did the Colts get for him in trade?

It is like you are making my point for me

 

[aria]

And what did the Colts get for him in trade?

It is like you are making my point for me

Don't recall, all I'm saying is there is/can be a demand for a 37 year old proven qb with injury history. Especially for teams that have all the right pieces in place minus the qb (ie Denver and Houston).

 

[JoeKing]

If we get nothing for Romo please allow me to admit my expectations were dead wrong. Hard to believe we couldn't generate a mid round pick at the least. Oh well, I hope we can do something productive with his cap savings.

I am guilty of the same miscalculation. Make the most of the caps space since that is the only benefit I see.

 

[JustDezIt]

Where is the ability to do a simple Google search when you need it?

Tell em why you mad son

 

[Sydla]

There have been recent rule changes and I haven't studied the details. You could be correct. But let's keep in mind that even so those funds absolutely help us this offseason.

1. It allows us to use those funds for rookie contracts.
2. We can use those funds to lock Martin into a longterm deal

So the team will likely use every penny it can on free agents, knowing they'll have a big slush fund for rookies and Martin.

The rookie pool money we will need is actually not that high at all. So we really don't need all those post June cap savings to pay rookies.

Further, the Cowboys don't need to extend a new deal to Martin now. Further, the cap space saved after June 1 likely wouldn't be used for Martin anyway. And going forward the Cowboys have enough cap space to extend him anyway going forward.

Again if he's a June 1, then there is no need to cut him on first day of FA.

 

[Proof]

Lol @ if the Broncos sign Romo and are able to trade simian

 

[Cowboys22]

Any attempt to trade Romo that includes releasing him on day one of free agency is not a serious attempt. A serious attempt would have included a strong bluff and holding onto him for at least a few more weeks.

 

[T-RO]

If we get nothing for Romo please allow me to admit my expectations were dead wrong. Hard to believe we couldn't generate a mid round pick at the least. Oh well, I hope we can do something productive with his cap savings.

I saw a mid-round pick as a possibility, but not a probability.

Your expectations were at least within the realm of reason.

There were guys around here (*cough* bkight13 *cough*) announcing with absolute certainty there would be 12 teams head-butting each other in line to offer us a first round pick...and maybe more.

 

[AbeBeta]

Don't recall, all I'm saying is there is/can be a demand for a 37 year old proven qb with injury history. Especially for teams that have all the right pieces in place minus the qb (ie Denver and Houston).

They got nothing. They released him.

Manning was 36, a Superbowl winner and a five time first team all pro at the time.

I love Romo, but Manning was clearly far better. Yet, no trade interest.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Peyton was 36 when he went to the Broncos, with injury histor, and I would say it turned out alright for him.

What did the Colts get in trade for Peyton?

 

[AbeBeta]

Any attempt to trade Romo that includes releasing him on day one of free agency is not a serious attempt. A serious attempt would have included a strong bluff and holding onto him for at least a few more weeks.

You have to balance that with destroying Romo's options and his ability to secure a deal good enough for him to play. You hold on to him and options dissolve, then you've got nothing and you've basically forced the long time face of the franchise to retire. It's a bit of a $$_& move.

 

[AbeBeta]

What did the Colts get in trade for Peyton?

Outstanding question!

 

[T-RO]

They got nothing. They released him.

Manning was 36, a Superbowl winner and a five time first team all pro at the time.

I love Romo, but Manning was clearly far better. Yet, no trade interest.

Exactly. The failure to land a trade is no negative reflection on Jones. It's highly dubious had the Cowboys brass waited...trades would have materialized.

 

[T-RO]

You have to balance that with destroying Romo's options and his ability to secure a deal good enough for him to play. You hold on to him and options dissolve, then you've got nothing and you've basically forced the long time face of the franchise to retire. It's a bit of a $$_& move.

Exactly. It would have been a screw-you move on top of the fact that we almost certainly wouldn't have gained any benefit.