Jerry tried to Trade Romo but Couldn't

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Exactly. The failure to land a trade is no negative reflection on Jones. It's highly dubious had the Cowboys brass waited...trades would have materialized.

But the flip side is if you are making him a June 1 cut, there is no reason to not wait it out longer to see if a team does get desperate.

You guys are so set on making excuses for the FO you are missing obvious signs that this was really about Jerry doing Romo a favor.
 

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That's professional sports. Once Romo decided he didn't want to continue to fulfill his contract or the team decided he had to go, it should have become a what's best for the Cowboys situation. Instead I became a do right by Romo deal. I could care less if he gets a 2-3 week delay in looking for a new team. Waiting a few weeks for a market to develop would not have caused Romo to retire. The same teams interested in him tomorrow would still be interested in a few weeks.

No, actually professional sports is also about respecting long time contributors over a measly low draft pick.
 

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But the flip side is if you are making him a June 1 cut, there is no reason to not wait it out longer to see if a team does get desperate.

You guys are so set on making excuses for the FO you are missing obvious signs that this was really about Jerry doing Romo a favor.

That's funny....I'm a Jones apologist. I think CowboysZone first cordoned off a separate "hate-Jones" forum chat area half because of me!

The reality is that in this case the criticism isn't deserved.

Why would a trade opportunity suddenly emerge when it hasn't already?
 

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No, actually professional sports is also about respecting long time contributors over a measly low draft pick.

And if Jerry had screwed Tony over like that...I could see him returning the favor by signing w/ the Commanders.
 

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Agents and player leverage had a lot to do with that. Romo and his camp knew they likely only had one more big contract. They had leverage to make it a longer extension.
That's where sometimes I feel like Jerry displays too much loyalty to a player to a point where it hurts the team. They should have done the deal with an injury clause or something at the least. Romo will have basically played 2 full seasons out of the 6 he was extended/paid. The man got paid! It's Romo who should have to "do right" by Jerry.
 

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That's funny....I'm a Jones apologist. I think CowboysZone first cordoned off a separate "hate-Jones" forum chat area half because of me!

The reality is that in this case the criticism isn't deserved.

Why would a trade opportunity suddenly emerge when it hasn't already?
I guess Jerry could have really screwed Romo in hope of squeezing out a late round pick if he held him until after the draft.
It'd be too late to do the June 1 designation but you still cut him and get cap savings.

And by then what small "acceptable market" that there was would almost surely have dried up as teams filled their needs.

You could hope for a freak injury like what happened to Bridgewater. good grief
Even then, the injury would have to have been to a team that Romo would play for and do a new incentive based contract with. No team wants a starting QB unless he wants them.

I'm also sure Romo agreed to stay away from certain NFC teams if he was released early enough to find a good job.

So many ifs...not to mention the ongoing media circus.

Cut bait on good terms and move on...that's what they decided on.
 
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That's funny....I'm a Jones apologist. I think CowboysZone first cordoned off a separate "hate-Jones" forum chat area half because of me!

The reality is that in this case the criticism isn't deserved.

Why would a trade opportunity suddenly emerge when it hasn't already?

Who knows if one would have. But if you are serious about getting something for him and there is NO REASON to have to cut him at the start of the league year, then holding him for a bit doesn't hurt you at all.

How are you missing this?

They are cutting him for one reason. Jerry is doing Romo a solid.
 

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That's where sometimes I feel like Jerry displays too much loyalty to a player to a point where it hurts the team. They should have done the deal with an injury clause or something at the least. Romo will have basically played 2 full seasons out of the 6 he was extended/paid. The man got paid! It's Romo who should have to "do right" by Jerry.

Romo didn't get paid--and won't be paid for the 2 years remaining on his contract.

As for his four years of service....he was injured in the line of duty. I don't see the need to blame a soldier for taking bullets. I find it a bit classless to do so.
 
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I guess Jerry could have really screwed Romo in hope of squeezing out a late round pick if he held him until after the draft.
It'd be too late to do the June 1 designation but you still cut him and get cap savings.

And by then what small "acceptable market" that there was would almost surely have dried up as teams filled their needs.

You could hope for a freak injury like what happened to Bridgewater. good grief
Even then, the injury would have to have been to a team that Romo would play for and do a new incentive based contract with. No team wants a starting QB unless he wants them.

I'm also sure Romo agreed to stay away from certain NFC teams if he was released early enough to find a good job.

So many ifs...not to mention the ongoing media circus.

Cut bait on good terms and move on...that's what they decided on.

The draft is before June 1. How do you miss the June 1 designation?
 

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It really is not completely uncommon to grant a release of tradable but established (and often respected) vets.
go back every single season and you'll cases of it.
Already this year....
Brandon Marshall specifically asked to be released with one year left on his deal. He was tradable for at least something with 1 year 7.5 mil remaining. The Jets let him go and he went to a team out the division and conference.
 

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Who knows if one would have. But if you are serious about getting something for him and there is NO REASON to have to cut him at the start of the league year, then holding him for a bit doesn't hurt you at all.

How are you missing this?

They are cutting him for one reason. Jerry is doing Romo a solid.

Let's suppose you are right...that we could have landed a 4th or 5th round pick had we waited--a big if!

Let's walk through it...
1. We potentially screw Romo by keeping him hanging, perhaps till June.
2. We land a pick but we then have the entire weight of the dead cap all hit us immediately, instead of spreading it over two years.

Even if all we can't touch the money until June 2...that will still be available for Martin and the draft class. It's enough money to let us sign at one or two free agents.
 

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Romo didn't get paid--and won't be paid for the 2 years remaining on his contract.

As for his four years of service....he was injured in the line of duty. I don't see the need to blame a soldier for taking bullets.
I'm not trying to blame Romo but trying to express that I wish the front office was smarter about how they extended him and also that "loyalty/do right" should go both ways.
 

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Let's suppose you are right...that we could have landed a 4th or 5th round pick had we waited--a big if!

Let's walk through it...
1. We potentially screw Romo by keeping him hanging, perhaps till June.
2. We land a pick but we then have the entire weight of the dead cap all hit us immediately, instead of spreading it over two years.

Even if all we can't touch the money until June 2...that will still be available for Martin and the draft class. It's enough money to let us sign at one or two free agents.

We don't need the June 1 money to resign Martin. That's a myth. He won't be signed until next year and if we took the whole Romo hit now, it would be an even better cap situation.
 

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I will say this about all these reports being reported. None have been right.
 

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Nada
Goose egg
Zero
Zilch
Squat
Zip
Nothing
Cap relief

Pick one.
What?
Jerry must have screwed that up too
A hall of fame qb brought nothing
Maybe age, injuries and such really does have an effect on a players value
Who knew
 

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I'm not trying to blame Romo but trying to express that I wish the front office was smarter about how they extended him and also that "loyalty/do right" should go both ways.

I hear you. I think the Cowboys fully expect Romo to do the right thing and not play for a divisional rival and expect him to honor that.
 

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We don't need the June 1 money to resign Martin. That's a myth. He won't be signed until next year and if we took the whole Romo hit now, it would be an even better cap situation.
I kinda agree on the June cut
But we don't know the overall plan and there could be a reason to go that way
On the surface spreading out seems unnecessary but Martin aside there may be a reason we don't know about
 

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The draft is before June 1. How do you miss the June 1 designation?
Hey Sydia, you're right. For some reason I thought I had read they moved the deadline for the June 1 designations up to mid April--which really doesn't make a ton of sense.
Thanks
 

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I kinda agree on the June cut
But we don't know the overall plan and there could be a reason to go that way
On the surface spreading out seems unnecessary but Martin aside there may be a reason we don't know about

Oh I am sure they have a reason. I am just saying there is no reason to have to do it now.
 

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So already, just off the top of my head this year...three established veterans (that maybe a GM could have squeezed a draft pick out of someone for) were granted early releases so they could enter the open market in a timely manner:

Brandon Marshall
Torrey Smith
Tony Romo

maybe Brandon Flowers too
 
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