Jerry Wants an *Offensive* Playmaker *Merge*

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CaptainAmerica;1800440 said:
Jerry is probably looking at the Pats and thinking he needs to be able to compete with them. He sees what offensive explosiveness means in today's NFL and he realizes we are extremely close to being a SB winning team. Jerry probably believes we are one or two players away from being dominant so he is thinking it's now time to go for it!!

Exactly! JJ said, himself, that he learned from his mistake in the 90's of trading down to acquire more picks when you have a contending team. He said that moving down and acquiring more picks brought you more players, but those players couldn't crack the starting lineup. He said he's learned that when you have a team that's ready to contend, you don't move down you move up. He said you find a way to move up and acquire those 1 or 2 players that can come in immediately and start for you and put you over the top. With 2 #1's JJ will make it happen. He loves DMac, and if you saw his interview where he was asked about Arkansas' win over LSU, his eyes were dancing when he started talking vaguely about the awesome pro potential of some of the Arkansas players.
 

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marchetta;1802241 said:
Exactly! JJ said, himself, that he learned from his mistake in the 90's of trading down to acquire more picks when you have a contending team. He said that moving down and acquiring more picks brought you more players, but those players couldn't crack the starting lineup. He said he's learned that when you have a team that's ready to contend, you don't move down you move up. He said you find a way to move up and acquire those 1 or 2 players that can come in immediately and start for you and put you over the top. With 2 #1's JJ will make it happen. He loves DMac, and if you saw his interview where he was asked about Arkansas' win over LSU, his eyes were dancing when he started talking vaguely about the awesome pro potential of some of the Arkansas players.

I never had a problem with Jerry moving down in the draft during those years. It still came down to who he drafted with the picks he did have and most times they just did not draft well.
 

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For the 100000000000 time our 2 #1's WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. We will have to give up either players or other picks. As has been pointed out, Spears and Carpenter could be used- Hatcher can replace Spears and Carp does not play much anyway. But how much can we get for THEM? I am worried that Jerrah is so in love with making a splash and getting a great player that he will give up TOO MUCH.
 

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burmafrd;1802256 said:
For the 100000000000 time our 2 #1's WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. We will have to give up either players or other picks. As has been pointed out, Spears and Carpenter could be used- Hatcher can replace Spears and Carp does not play much anyway. But how much can we get for THEM? I am worried that Jerrah is so in love with making a splash and getting a great player that he will give up TOO MUCH.

Stop shouting!:D We know it will cost more than 2 mid/low #1s. However, JJ will make it happen regardless. And yes, of course, he will overpay. JJ knows that nothing would fill his new stadium more than Romo handing off to DMac. JJ isn't just concerned about winning, he's also a business man. So, he knows the effect a player like DMac would have in terms of wins and revenue.
 

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silverbear;1800890 said:
Maybe, maybe not... but one thing's certain, both of them will NOT be back in Dallas next season... Julius has one foot out the door already, just waiting to hit the free agent highway, to try to find a team that will give him 20 carries a game...
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Ummmm... yeah you're right Jones wont be back but you're way wrong about Barber. first thing Barber is a Restricted Free Agent meaning we're gonna place a tender on him that's going to make it hard for any team to anty up for him. Second thing if you think we're gonna just let are best back go with the team we have and leave it all up to a rookie RB when we dont have to is just crazy talk. Jerry aint stupid Barber is gonna get his contract BELIEVE THAT.
 

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eduncan22;1802401 said:
Dude...I said 'Dallas WILL NOT draft a RB in the 1st Round.'

We need help at DB and WR.

Ok, I see why you've been given another name that is similar to Eduncan except with a different vowel minus the consonant....However you still said we don't need a RB and then you contradicted your original post by saying we will not draft one in the first round.....If they don't have a need for one according to your statement, then why would you leave the possibility of them drafting one in a later round?? Don't you realize there's a possibility that we may not have any depth at the position once we possibly don't retain the services of Mr. Jones and Mr. Thompson...
 

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dcowboysfan76;1802418 said:
Ok, I see why you've been given another name that is similar to Eduncan except with a different vowel minus the consonant....However you still said we don't need a RB and then you contradicted your original post by saying we will not draft one in the first round.....If they don't have a need for one according to your statement, then why would you leave the possibility of them drafting one in a later round?? Don't you realize there's a possibility that we may not have any depth at the position once we possibly don't retain the services of Mr. Jones and Mr. Thompson...


How about I clarify this for you...

The Dallas Cowboys will not be drafting a replacement/starting RB in the 2008 Draft. This includes the 1st round of the 2008 draft.

Reason #1: We already have the best RB combo in the NFL.

Reason #2: We need depth at WR.

Reason #3: We need depth at CB.
 

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eduncan22;1802435 said:
How about I clarify this for you...

The Dallas Cowboys will not be drafting a replacement/starting RB in the 2008 Draft. This includes the 1st round of the 2008 draft.

Reason #1: We already have the best RB combo in the NFL.

Reason #2: We need depth at WR.

Reason #3: We need depth at CB.

Dallas does need depth at CB to back up Newman and Henry.
 

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eduncan22;1802435 said:
How about I clarify this for you...

The Dallas Cowboys will not be drafting a replacement/starting RB in the 2008 Draft. This includes the 1st round of the 2008 draft.

Reason #1: We already have the best RB combo in the NFL.

Reason #2: We need depth at WR.

Reason #3: We need depth at CB.

Hmm, I think that everyone on this board knows about depth at a position except you, so don't try and repost things that you've heard others say. We currently have a pretty good running combination right now, I wouldn't qualify it as the "best".....There is definitely room for improvement there and if Jerry doesn't offer JJ another contract then wouldn't that mean that he feels we can get better at the position?? Also how do you know the Cowboys will not be drafting a replacement/starting RB in the 2008 draft?? Are you the rebirth of Cleo?? I thought that's why we draft players, you know to get better at certain positions, replace older players, or add "depth"....
 

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It's not to say that our only need, or most pressing need is at WR, but considering the age of both of our starting WRs, and Glenn's injury, I don't think we'll see Glenn on the field for us again. I think WR needs to be addressed early in the draft or free agency. While T.O. is having a great year, he's certainly no spring chicken either, but more due to Glenn's situation, I feel we need to bring in a WR with an extra step (or two...) of speed.
 

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BlueStar II;1802481 said:
It's not to say that our only need, or most pressing need is at WR, but considering the age of both of our starting WRs, and Glenn's injury, I don't think we'll see Glenn on the field for us again. I think WR needs to be addressed early in the draft or free agency. While T.O. is having a great year, he's certainly no spring chicken either, but more due to Glenn's situation, I feel we need to bring in a WR with an extra step (or two...) of speed.

I think that WR will be addressed in FA or by trade and in the second round.....
 

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A RB early in the draft would be welcome, too, so who knows for sure just what position Jones will want to fill early. Jones also realizes he has lots of seats in his new stadium that will need to be filled once it's finished, and I think that that is a definite factor in bringing in players who will supply that "wow" factor for the team as well.
 

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BlueStar II;1802504 said:
A RB early in the draft would be welcome, too, so who knows for sure just what position Jones will want to fill early. Jones also realizes he has lots of seats in his new stadium that will need to be filled once it's finished, and I think that that is a definite factor in bringing in players who will supply that "wow" factor for the team as well.

He will definitely need another jersey seller....
 

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Chocolate Lab;1802184 said:
Nobody loved McFadden more than I do, even last year... You can check the archives. :) But that's too much to give. If we want to trade a Spears who is barely (if at all) outperforming his backups, or a Carpenter who can't get on the field, fine. But Spencer is going to be a critical part of this team going forward. Yes, Ellis is playing great right now, but he is older. We need that third pass rusher now and we'll need him to start at some point in the future.

Besides, as much as I'd love to see McFadden here, it doesn't make sense to give up defense for offense when our O is unstoppable and our D is what needs the help.
But add an elite RB to this "unstoppable" offense and it will potentially be one of the most exciting, overpowering juggernauts in the history of the NFL.

Fair enough, though. I see your points. This is always what it comes down to on these things -- you get what you pay for.
 

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fanfromvirginia;1802525 said:
But add an elite RB to this "unstoppable" offense and it will potentially be one of the most exciting, overpowering juggernauts in the history of the NFL.

Fair enough, though. I see your points. This is always what it comes down to on these things -- you get what you pay for.

The thing is that so many owners have that win now attitude when they feel the majority of the pieces are already in place. The Cowboys have those pieces in place and IMO we are a few pieces from having a back to back SB team......
 

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marchetta;1800142 said:
And don't forget, the new Arkansas OC is a former Dallas coach (TE's coach I think). Along with all of JJ's other Arkansas connections, I'm sure JJ will know EVERYTHING there is to know about DMac prior to the draft. He will probably be the "safest" pick in the draft in terms of how much JJ will know about him (ie. personality, attitude, work habits, off field behavior, mentality, football IQ, any weaknesses that coaches may be hiding, etc.).
It also means he knows everyhting there is to know about Felix Jones as well and that is who I think JJ is targeting. He is rated above Slaton, Rice and Hart by Scouts, Inc. and should be available when we draft. That also allows us to get a good cornerback since this draft looks loaded with CB's.

Jones gets overlooked because of DMac, which is understandable, but he is 6 feet, 202 and runs a 4.4. He is also shiftier than DMac and runs lower to the ground. Plus he does not shy from contact. He led the NCAA as a freshman in kick returns and would be a nice addition to our return game. Here's hoping.
 

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swj010;1802576 said:
It also means he knows everyhting there is to know about Felix Jones as well and that is who I think JJ is targeting. He is rated above Slaton, Rice and Hart by Scouts, Inc. and should be available when we draft. That also allows us to get a good cornerback since this draft looks loaded with CB's.

Jones gets overlooked because of DMac, which is understandable, but he is 6 feet, 202 and runs a 4.4. He is also shiftier than DMac and runs lower to the ground. Plus he does not shy from contact. He led the NCAA as a freshman in kick returns and would be a nice addition to our return game. Here's hoping.

I've been saying these things all along....
 

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dcowboysfan76;1802541 said:
The thing is that so many owners have that win now attitude when they feel the majority of the pieces are already in place. The Cowboys have those pieces in place and IMO we are a few pieces from having a back to back SB team......
If we only need a few pieces then presumably some of them are obtainable via free agency and later in the draft.

If ever there were a time to move up for a wow player, this is it, IMO.

We're going to have a chance to get what we need, one way or the other, because we're loaded and we've got the extra draft pick.
 
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