Jerry wants to keep Zeke

[Sydla]

I'm no expert but supposedly they owe him like close to 6mil this year and next even after hes cut post june 1st. that why the jones are most likely thinking this might be way to pay him that to stay but no more..who knows.

IDC really lie i said they could blow up the entire backfield and im cool with that.,.just fix the LINE get physical LG and hope steele gets back easily and go commit to a run game. KC seems to be good with RBBC and WRBC and won a sb.

fans dont control this stuff Daks will be back but 5k post on how he should be here , why makes no sense he will be here this roster will be whatever it is and hope its enough. its far too early for hot debates, FA hasnt begun and then the draft and so much roster changes are coming. we will know more about our 23 fate 6 games into the season, thats a fact.

you would think fans would get tired of being wrong. the .500 record guessing thing for 2 straight years , last year the "Historically bad offseason", the we won t go anywhere be 8-9 9-8 , i heard organically tanking, not enough talent or depth all offseason, ironic we make the 2nd round of the playoffs with b2b 12 qin seasons , then we here MM is on their hot seat for not getting farter, huh that bad an offseason and now we should have made it farther?

still fans all over gain claiming bad things are coming.

ughh

They only thing they "owe" him is his base salary of $10.9 million. That's it. That's the only cash they have to put in his pocket if he's on the roster in 2023. If they cut him before the season, they don't have to pay him his base salary.

You appear to be mixing up what is owed to Elliott and what cap charges we are obligated to take in 2023 regardless if he plays here or not. That's not owed money. It's money we already paid him that we prorated out over multiple years. To elaborate, there are around $5.9 million in cap charges we are obligated to take in 2023 if he were to play out the 2023 season here:

- $1.5 million prorated signing bonus. The bonus was actually paid when he signed the new deal years ago.
- $2.6 million prorated option bonus. The bonus was actually paid in 2020.
- $1.8 million prorated restructure. In 2021, the Cowboys converted his base salary to a bonus, paid him all of it in cash at the restructure, and then prorated that bonus over 5 years.

The Cowboys owe him zero if they cut him now. They would just have to advance future cap charges from bonuses and restructures onto their current cap (depending on whether a June 1 cut or not)

 

[Ranching]

issue is they dont know if hes falls there and FA and FT comes first.. they have to commit to pollard or zeke first and then the daft follows, its a gamble. i guess if they wanted to be aholes, they could FT pollard, if they got BJ they could rescind the tag and let him walk or tell pollard go find a trade that is good for both,. on the tag what would team have to offer to take pollard? whats the draft pick for RB on a tag?

as much as i luv Bijon, io say pass there so much talent in the 3rd round at RB this year it makes no sense unless all your tother top 1st round need BPAS are off the board and hes there, then by all means take him.

I agree with you. Bijon is a stud, but there's a lot to be had in the RB position.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

1 yard or 99....they all count for 6 points.

Yes they do, but what I'm getting at is that he was used like Marion Barber was. Remeber when Julius Jones would rush the entire drive then Marion Barber would come in for the 2 yard TD. Zeke no matter what the price is, is nothing more than a progress stopper. The 49er game displayed that Zeke isn't more than Shaun Alexander at the end of his career or Eddie George with Dallas. Time for some fresh legs.

 

[LatinMind]

That's not the question he's asking.

blueblood suggested that if we cut him we owe Elliott $5 million and with league minimum pay from another team, he'd make the $6 million blueblood is proposing we pay Elliott.



That's false. If we cut him, we owe him nothing.

It's not about owing the player anything. It's always about owing the cap

 

[Stash]

Their entire seems terrible to me. They’re going to kick the can further on a bad Prescott deal so that they can spend it on a fungible position like running back. The opposite of a smart decision and what the rest of the league has figured out.

Anything left will go to keeping what they have together at all costs.

 

[Sydla]

It's not about owing the player anything. It's always about owing the cap

We get that. blueblood doesn't, as shown, he thinks the Cowboys still have to pay Elliott $5 million if we cut him. We are all trying to tell him that's not the case.

 

[LatinMind]

I'm curious, what the furthest TD for him was.

10 yrds

 

[LatinMind]

Their entire seems terrible to me. They’re going to kick the can further on a bad Prescott deal so that they can spend it on a fungible position like running back. The opposite of a smart decision and what the rest of the league has figured out.

Anything left will go to keeping what they have together at all costs.

Now I don't agree that Elliot should be on the team at his price, but they were in the final 8 teams playing. Are they as bad as you're saying? I don't think Elliot will be on the team, but if he is so what. I'll take 800yrds and 12 tds for the vet minimum. I don't think they'd disrespect him like that too. So i think he's cut and signs elsewhere and gets a whole bunch of tds for them

 

[phildadon86]

And you wonder why Dallas doesn't compete for Superbowls anymore....

They don’t need to as long as they compete for relevance. Jerry has said as much.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

10 yrds

Super impressive

 

[Stash]

Now I don't agree that Elliot should be on the team at his price, but they were in the final 8 teams playing. Are they as bad as you're saying?

I don’t think they’re “bad” and I didn’t say that.

My issue continues to be how they’re allocating resources. They overpaid to franchise tag a TE last year and are now set to repeat the mistake and tag a running back.

I don't think Elliot will be on the team, but if he is so what. I'll take 800yrds and 12 tds for the vet minimum. I don't think they'd disrespect him like that too. So i think he's cut and signs elsewhere and gets a whole bunch of tds for them

Vet minimum for Zeke? Sure. Sign me up. Be sure to let me know when that happens and I’ll certainly give both you and them credit.

 

[Ranching]

Yes they do, but what I'm getting at is that he was used like Marion Barber was. Remeber when Julius Jones would rush the entire drive then Marion Barber would come in for the 2 yard TD. Zeke no matter what the price is, is nothing more than a progress stopper. The 49er game displayed that Zeke isn't more than Shaun Alexander at the end of his career or Eddie George with Dallas. Time for some fresh legs.

I get it, but if we can get him on the cheap...he can do the little things that can extend another backs career. Why not use the dead money?

 

[Bullflop]

Jerry would surely like to keep Zeke but for a salary that would make it hard for Zeke to find attractive. It'll be interesting to see what develops. Yeah, many of us, myself included, are anything but anxious to see that happen, even if a very affordable price makes it doable. Let's see what develops in terms of what occurs in the weeks ahead. I'm confident that the draft will present a RB or two that could help to resolve things at the RB position.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Jerry has a soft spot for older, slower players.

 

[jazzcat22]

If we draft Robinson we don't need Pollard. We don't know how he will come back from injury....if Zeke takes a paycut, we'll get something instead of losing dead money. Pollard is not an every down back. He's very good, but how good will he be? Draft a rookie and play him on a rookie contract. I like Robinson, but there will be others in the top three rounds that can play immediately

This makes too much sense for those anti Zeke people. They will not want to understand true football logic.

 

[LatinMind]

I don’t think they’re “bad” and I didn’t say that.

My issue continues to be how they’re allocating resources. They overpaid to franchise tag a TE last year and are now set to repeat the mistake and tag a running back.


Vet minimum for Zeke? Sure. Sign me up. Be sure to let me know when that happens and I’ll certainly give both you and them credit.

They didn't overpay. I hate when fans say this because they worry about jerrys money too much. They paid the going price for players. Now did they overpay for Elliot, yes. Was it over priced at the time yes, but thats the price you pay for a rb that your never had to take off the field.

People will point to tenn rb. He doesn't pass protect or catch out of the backfield. Still overpaid. It's what it is.

So it's the teams fault they have to franchise Pollard? Or is it just a very good football player isjust time to get paid accordingly.

 

[Stash]

They didn't overpay. I hate when fans say this because they worry about jerrys money too much.

I could care less about ‘Jerry’s money’. Jerry’s money comes from the half of the cap money he gets to pocket.

You know what I ‘hate’? Clueless fans who don’t know the difference but rush to defend anything the Cowboys do.

They paid the going price for players. Now did they overpay for Elliot, yes. Was it over priced at the time yes, but thats the price you pay for a rb that your never had to take off the field.

People will point to tenn rb. He doesn't pass protect or catch out of the backfield. Still overpaid. It's what it is.

“It is what it is.”

The white flag of surrender for something indefensible.

So it's the teams fault they have to franchise Pollard? Or is it just a very good football player isjust time to get paid accordingly.

Where is it written that ‘they have to’? This only further proves that you simply rubber stamp everything they do rather than to think for yourself.

 

[LatinMind]

I could care less about ‘Jerry’s money’. Jerry’s money comes from the half of the cap money he gets to pocket.

You know what I ‘hate’? Clueless fans who don’t know the difference but rush to defend anything the Cowboys do.


“It is what it is.”

The white flag of surrender for something indefensible.

Where is it written that ‘they have to’? This only further proves that you simply rubber stamp everything they do rather than to think for yourself.

When has the team EVER not been right on the cap?

 

[Blitzen]

Didn’t take you long to turn the thread into a pity party. Poor thing.

He could be legitimately concerned for Jerry and other’s safety.

 

[Rockport]

He could be legitimately concerned for Jerry and other’s safety.