Jerry wants to keep Zeke

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Belichick Knew when to cut bait!
right and tom left got another ring and BB is barely putting competitive team on the field 2 years in row with bipolar view on play calling or who the qb should be, its easy when you are on run with a HOF qb and TE..

BB isnt the owner BTW hes a coach but he couldn't find great wr in the draft if one fell from a roof on his head.,. Nice trying to box a Coach up like hes perfect.

did jerry not let romo walk over Dak? released ware over money , last offseason gregory, collins., cwill., jarwin, ced, cooper, Zuerlein, and other all cut or traded..he cut Jaylon mid season , cut hill, Jerrys moved on from plenty of players even Smith22 played for the cards.. so a few he held in higher regard, may have over stayed a bit BNUT dont act like Jerrys not cut popular payers.
 

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Because if you tag Pollard and even get Elliott to take a pay cut all the way to league minimum base, you'd have over $18 million tied up in two TBs - one coming of a leg injury and another who has been in decline as an upper level back.

Throw in the fact free agency looks to have quality RB options AND the draft is loaded with TBs, this is a completely idiotic and stupid cap decision by Jerry and his idiot son (if they do indeed keep both - I am holding out hope one hits his head on a toilet seat or something and knocks some sense into him).

Any other team would cut Elliott at this point. Our two nitwits place way too much emphasis on loyalty.

Maybe Zeke and his agent will play hard ball and not take a big enough pay cut forcing Jerry to just cut him. One can hope.
If we draft Robinson we don't need Pollard. We don't know how he will come back from injury....if Zeke takes a paycut, we'll get something instead of losing dead money. Pollard is not an every down back. He's very good, but how good will he be? Draft a rookie and play him on a rookie contract. I like Robinson, but there will be others in the top three rounds that can play immediately
 

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As stated it’s not about that. It’s about him being a progress stopper for other RB’s. Malik should have gotten way more carries than he did. They can’t afford to go another year with the TP and Zeke as the only backs they will play.
Malik didnt get carries because of MOORE where was malik after Pollard went down especially in the playoff game.. blame zeke for that ? Zeke sat out 2 game pollard one and pollard and zeke both had games they played injured, where was Malik..treams can play 3-4 RBs iof they want, its the OC choice. it the main reason Moore was released call 16 run pays in a playoff game, how many years did pollard get under used before moore finally started using him?.

LOOK i dont care either way its not up to US..BUT i can see what jerry lokig at it is money. the cap and the fact zeke could still at a very reduced price help the team. BTW just because that what jerry says hes feeling doesn't mean SJ and WILL or MM will talk him out of it..
 

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asking him to take 2mil when ,if cut, he can make close to 6?He could literally take the minimum elsewhere plus the 5mil we owe him and make his bag?umm ok rbs at his production level last year made 4-6mil..

I'M not on either side of this debate really, IDC we could cut both and roll with new set of backs for all i care but lets keep facts in this debate over the money.

who got close to 900 yards, 3.8 YPC (sure that low but so was emmits year 7 at 3.7) and 12tds(5th in the league in rushing tds) in 15 games. not that bad really and injured and that OL and play caller slowed him down, need more proof Pollard last 6 games- NO TDS, last 4 RS games no tds 51 YPG and a 3.8 YPC.. id say that Line was wasn't opening many holes and the play caller not designing and calling run plays.
Maybe you can educate me on that first line of your reply. If cut do the Cowboys still owe Zeke anything? I'm not a contract guru and rely on 3rd party sites as well as this forum for info on this stuff, but Zeke was guaranteed $50MM on his deal and as of right now has been paid $50MM. In my mind that means he wouldn't get a dime from the Cowboys if cut, the issue for the Cowboys is the cap hit. I'm 100% open to the idea I'm wrong here, but want to understand why.
 

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If we draft Robinson we don't need Pollard. We don't know how he will come back from injury....if Zeke takes a paycut, we'll get something instead of losing dead money. Pollard is not an every down back. He's very good, but how good will he be? Draft a rookie and play him on a rookie contract. I like Robinson, but there will be others in the top three rounds that can play immediately
Sending Pollard packing, keeping Elliott to then using a first round pick on a TB? Yeah, not a fan.
 

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Maybe you can educate me on that first line of your reply. If cut do the Cowboys still owe Zeke anything? I'm not a contract guru and rely on 3rd party sites as well as this forum for info on this stuff, but Zeke was guaranteed $50MM on his deal and as of right now has been paid $50MM. In my mind that means he wouldn't get a dime from the Cowboys if cut, the issue for the Cowboys is the cap hit. I'm 100% open to the idea I'm wrong here, but want to understand why.
Elliot would cost 11.86 mil to cut. Half this yr if he's a june1 cut.
 

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Maybe you can educate me on that first line of your reply. If cut do the Cowboys still owe Zeke anything? I'm not a contract guru and rely on 3rd party sites as well as this forum for info on this stuff, but Zeke was guaranteed $50MM on his deal and as of right now has been paid $50MM. In my mind that means he wouldn't get a dime from the Cowboys if cut, the issue for the Cowboys is the cap hit. I'm 100% open to the idea I'm wrong here, but want to understand why.
blueblood must be confusing the prorated bonuses/restructures as money we owe him. As you said, we don't actually owe him anything other than his base salary in 2023. And if we cut him, we wouldn't owe him any of that.
 

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Elliot would cost 11.86 mil to cut. Half this yr if he's a june1 cut.
That's not the question he's asking.

blueblood suggested that if we cut him we owe Elliott $5 million and with league minimum pay from another team, he'd make the $6 million blueblood is proposing we pay Elliott.

asking him to take 2mil when ,if cut, he can make close to 6?He could literally take the minimum elsewhere plus the 5mil we owe him and make his bag?umm ok rbs at his production level last year made 4-6mil..

That's false. If we cut him, we owe him nothing.
 

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Sending Pollard packing, keeping Elliott to then using a first round pick on a TB? Yeah, not a fan.
At the late 20s......Robinson would be a steal. I don't think he'll be there for us.....I'm biased because I saw him play personally a few times. He's a stud!
 

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At the late 20s......Robinson would be a steal. I don't think he'll be there for us.....I'm biased because I saw him play personally a few times. He's a stud!
Robinson is overrated by many here talking like he's some sort of generational talent.

I can't justify him at 26 with all the holes we have when I can get a quality TB in the middle rounds due to this being a very talented and deep RB class. The draft board would have to be gutted for me to take a TB at 26.
 

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Maybe you can educate me on that first line of your reply. If cut do the Cowboys still owe Zeke anything? I'm not a contract guru and rely on 3rd party sites as well as this forum for info on this stuff, but Zeke was guaranteed $50MM on his deal and as of right now has been paid $50MM. In my mind that means he wouldn't get a dime from the Cowboys if cut, the issue for the Cowboys is the cap hit. I'm 100% open to the idea I'm wrong here, but want to understand why.
I'm no expert but supposedly they owe him like close to 6mil this year and next even after hes cut post june 1st. that why the jones are most likely thinking this might be way to pay him that to stay but no more..who knows.

IDC really lie i said they could blow up the entire backfield and im cool with that.,.just fix the LINE get physical LG and hope steele gets back easily and go commit to a run game. KC seems to be good with RBBC and WRBC and won a sb.

fans dont control this stuff Daks will be back but 5k post on how he should be here , why makes no sense he will be here this roster will be whatever it is and hope its enough. its far too early for hot debates, FA hasnt begun and then the draft and so much roster changes are coming. we will know more about our 23 fate 6 games into the season, thats a fact.

you would think fans would get tired of being wrong. the .500 record guessing thing for 2 straight years , last year the "Historically bad offseason", the we won t go anywhere be 8-9 9-8 , i heard organically tanking, not enough talent or depth all offseason, ironic we make the 2nd round of the playoffs with b2b 12 qin seasons , then we here MM is on their hot seat for not getting farter, huh that bad an offseason and now we should have made it farther?

still fans all over gain claiming bad things are coming.

ughh:confused::banghead::oldcouple:
 

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The Joneses don’t get it at all.

We have the new Al Davis.

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Good lawd, afraid so. We recall how Al Davis set the bar low for NFL owner-presidents. It's being lowered again....nice job, Jerruh.
 

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At the late 20s......Robinson would be a steal. I don't think he'll be there for us.....I'm biased because I saw him play personally a few times. He's a stud!
issue is they dont know if hes falls there and FA and FT comes first.. they have to commit to pollard or zeke first and then the daft follows, its a gamble. i guess if they wanted to be aholes, they could FT pollard, if they got BJ they could rescind the tag and let him walk or tell pollard go find a trade that is good for both,. on the tag what would team have to offer to take pollard? whats the draft pick for RB on a tag?

as much as i luv Bijon, io say pass there so much talent in the 3rd round at RB this year it makes no sense unless all your tother top 1st round need BPAS are off the board and hes there, then by all means take him.
 

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Any dead money from cutting Zeke us from already paid prorated bonuses. Zeke gets zlitch if cut. Dallas just eats dead cap but pays nothing in real salary
 
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