Jerry's drunken interview

[CATCH17]

Let me ask everyone this and please try to answer honestly.

If this was a tape of any other owner drunk and talking about coaches and/or players would it be as big a deal? Maybe.

Of this was a tape of any other NFL GM drunk and talking about coaches/and or players would they still have a job?

I wouldn't care and I barely care about it in this instance.

I waited until this thread was about 25 pages deep before even opening it.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I've criticized Jerry's management as much as anybody; however, this off season, I'd set my mind to holding back on the criticism because the team finally showed genuine progress. And progress is the only reasonable expectation fans can have from season to season (unless a team has just won a Super Bowl or is entering a rebuilding phase).

That's why this whole video episode sucks so much. It's not just Jerry acting like a fool; it's Jerry saying foolish things that bring his credibility into question.

 

[Bach]

Right now we are consider a contending team by many I think things are looking pretty good right now.

It doesn't erase over a decade of failure due to Jerry's ego though. But yeah, it is good that we are a playoff team again and even have a wildcard win under our belt now.

 

[Doomsday101]

Or for some of you, those three Super Bowls were Jerry's doing while you all just making excuses why we have one lone playoff win since '96.

No excuse Jerry has been Owner\GM since 1989 and shares in the success and the failures. He could have released some of those vets instead of resigning them and avoided the cap hell we would be in. He could have allowed coaches he hired to have more say than Gailey did or Campo. People jump on Campo but how much say was he given? I think Jerry has made mistakes and learned from mistakes and like most GM he will make other mistakes.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Yep, I know what you mean. Those first few years of good and then all the rest of those bad years once Jerry starting making the football decisions.

But yeah, at least he did hire BP which helped get the mess turned around, even though his main reason for doing so was to get the new stadium. But even so, it was good to see us start going in the right direction. Lucking into a decent undrafted QB didn't hurt either.

You can chop it up any way you like. The results are the same. Jerry Jones bought the team, hired Jimmy, and co-ordinated a number of trades/player selections that delivered us three Super Bowl trophies.

We had some pretty lean years from 1996-2002, but he's clearly learned from his mistakes and we've since become one of the more stable, and well run organizations in the league.

Our arrow is pointing up, and it wouldn't suprise me to see us in another Super Bowl in short order.

 

[Hostile]

Objecting to ChrisinSoCal's moral equivalence argument amounts to a "witch hunt"? And to think you chastised Alex for "sensationalism." Welcome back, passive-aggressive guy.

That isn't what he did though and he has already explained that.

Alexander never does respond to sensationalism. He's level headed. I was caught off guard that he even dignified that question with a response.

 

[zrinkill]

Or for some of you, those three Super Bowls were Jerry's doing while you all just making excuses why we have one lone playoff win since '96.

Nope ...

I think we had the perfect players
perfect assistants
perfect coach
perfect GM
perfect owner

to get it done.

None of those men found success after they separated .... it was not just Jerry.

 

[Doomsday101]

It doesn't erase over a decade of failure due to Jerry's ego though. But yeah, it is good that we are a playoff team again and even have a wildcard win under our belt now.

Jerry ego? in a sport where everyone out there has an ego. It is good knowing we have a team who can compete and is a playoff contending team that is big, if you have any sense at all you figure the only teams with a shot at the SB is the teams who are contending teams.

 

[wileedog]

True and Jerry changed how we would draft player and acquire players and sorry BP was not the last word on those picks there were times BP was over ruled.

Never said otherwise.

I think Ireland being hired and Jerry knowing and saying we had to change how we do business made a big difference.

And that's what Bill brought to the table.

Of course Jerry also has his hand in 2008 when he brought in the elements that would completely implode the locker room and destroy what could have been a very productive season. Not to mention resulting in the the horror called 44-6. And of course the Roy debacle.

I'll give Jerry this - since he cut TO I have been much happier with most of his moves (not a fan of the draft 374 mid round guys last year instead of moving up, but that's neither here nor there).

But he is still Jerry. He is still the same guy who brought on the Dark Years, and every year he is another removed from Bill. And we can confirm now from this video that he does in fact make football decisions based on marketing and bad PR.

Who knows the next thing he will need to sell...

 

[JBond]

Finally got a chance to watch the video. Should he have said those things in public? Probably not. Is it as big a deal as some are making it to be. Not at all. Even billionaires get their drink on from time to time. They are just people after all.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

and every year he is another removed from Bill.

That certainly appears to be a good thing.

Thanks for re-shaping our scouting department, Bill . . .

But it's no coincidence that the relic Parcells has had less and less success at every stop he's been.

What? You mean this isn't 1987 anymore?

 

[Doomsday101]

Never said otherwise.


And that's what Bill brought to the table.

Of course Jerry also has his hand in 2008 when he brought in the elements that would completely implode the locker room and destroy what could have been a very productive season. Not to mention resulting in the the horror called 44-6. And of course the Roy debacle.

I'll give Jerry this - since he cut TO I have been much happier with most of his moves (not a fan of the draft 374 mid round guys last year instead of moving up, but that's neither here nor there).

But he is still Jerry. He is still the same guy who brought on the Dark Years, and every year he is another removed from Bill. And we can confirm now from this video that he does in fact make football decisions based on marketing and bad PR.

Who knows the next thing he will need to sell...

He is also the guy who bought this team from Bum Bright who had this franchise going no where fast and helped bring in 3 SB titles and yes we have had down years as has other teams of the 90's who were on top then but have gone through hard times. Do you think the 9ers look anything like they did during the 90's. How about Buffalo do they look like the SB team of the 90's.

 

[Bach]

You can chop it up any way you like. The results are the same. Jerry Jones bought the team, hired Jimmy, and co-ordinated a number of trades/player selections that delivered us three Super Bowl trophies.

We had some pretty lean years from 1996-2002, but he's clearly learned from his mistakes and we've since become one of the more stable, and well run organizations in the league.

Our arrow is pointing up, and it wouldn't suprise me to see us in another Super Bowl in short order.

Jimmy had full control over his staff when he was here. Not one coach since then could say the same, although BP came close.

The whole issue is that the way things have been managed the last 15 years is far from the way they were done the first 5 years.

So you can chop it and spin it how you want but we had the ultimate success when someone other than Jerry was making the critical football decisons, whereas we went downhill fast once Jerry took full control and hired puppets and micromanaged the staff and took over all personnel decisions.

But yes, after nearly 15 years our arrow is pointing upward again. Much of that though goes to the fact we lucked into a QB who was undrafted. Otherwise we'd probably still be trying out former baseball players or draft reaches thanks to our clueless owner/GM.

 

[Use Your Illusion]

Jimmy had full control over his staff when he was here. Not one coach since then could say the same, although BP came close.

The whole issue is that the way things have been managed the last 15 years is far from the way they were done the first 5 years.

So you can chop it and spin it how you want but we had the ultimate success when someone other than Jerry was making the critical football decisons, whereas we went downhill fast once Jerry took full control and hired puppets and micromanaged the staff and took over all personnel decisions.

But yes, after nearly 15 years our arrow is pointing upward again. Much of that though goes to the fact we lucked into a QB who was undrafted. Otherwise we'd probably still be trying out former baseball players or draft reaches thanks to our clueless owner/GM.

Don't forget the fact that we lucked into a pro bowl, undrafted WR. Or should we say, Parcells and HIS coaching staff did, since our two best offensive players, the guys who carried us to the playoffs last season, were both brought to our organization by Parcells.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Jimmy had full control over his staff when he was here. Not one coach since then could say the same, although BP came close.

The whole issue is that the way things have been managed the last 15 years is far from the way they were done the first 5 years.

So you can chop it and spin it how you want but we had the ultimate success when someone other than Jerry was making the critical football decisons, whereas we went downhill fast once Jerry took full control and hired puppets and micromanaged the staff and took over all personnel decisions.

But yes, after nearly 15 years our arrow is pointing upward again. Much of that though goes to the fact we lucked into a QB who was undrafted. Otherwise we'd probably still be trying out former baseball players or draft reaches thanks to our clueless owner/GM.

How did Jimmy do in Miami?

He must have set the league on fire after finally shedding that horrible GM Jerry Jones.

Right?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Don't forget the fact that we lucked into a pro bowl, undrafted WR. Or should we say, Parcells and HIS coaching staff did, since our two best offensive players, the guys who carried us to the playoffs last season, were both brought to our organization by Parcells.

Austin was discovered by Jason Garrets father.

Romo was discovered by Sean Payton.

 

[wileedog]

That certainly appears to be a good thing.

Thanks for re-shaping our scouting department, Bill . . .

But it's no coincidence that the relic Parcells has had less and less success at every stop he's been.

What? You mean this isn't 1987 anymore?

Missing the point. Jerry changed the way he operated the franchise and how he made decisions when Bill was here to challenge him and why he was making them - to make him "walk on eggshells."

Who is doing that now? Wade?

In 2008 Jerry started slipping dangerously back into pre-Bill mode: giving TO a very bad extension, trading top picks for a WR that had one good season, and bringing in characters like Pacman and Tank.

To his credit he turned it back around last year, but who knows how long that lasts?

 

[wileedog]

Austin was discovered by Jason Garrets father.

Romo was discovered by Sean Payton.

And both were signed by Parcells. Do you think Jerry goes out and 'discovers' all of the good players he's signed too?

And Jerry afterward went out and traded a 3rd for Henson, amid strong rumors Bill wanted nothing to do with him.

 

[Bach]

Don't forget the fact that we lucked into a pro bowl, undrafted WR. Or should we say, Parcells and HIS coaching staff did, since our two best offensive players, the guys who carried us to the playoffs last season, were both brought to our organization by Parcells.

Romo was pure luck. He was a typical undrafted FA signing and mainly as a result of playing for Payton's former team. I think we got rather lucky with Austin too.

Funny how two of our best players were undrafted.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Missing the point. Jerry changed the way he operated the franchise and how he made decisions when Bill was here to challenge him and why he was making them - to make him "walk on eggshells."

Who is doing that now? Wade?

In 2008 Jerry started slipping dangerously back into pre-Bill mode: giving TO a very bad extension, trading top picks for a WR that had one good season, and bringing in characters like Pacman and Tank.

To his credit he turned it back around last year, but who knows how long that lasts?

I agree that Jerry learned a lot from Bill Parcells.

Say what you want about Jerry, but he's a smart man. You don't get to be a billionaire without having some sense.

I firmly believe that Jerry didn't respect Jimmy or the NFL enough, and had no objection to Jimmy leaving because he thought he could do it himself.

I also firmly believe that Jerry has since learned better. And I think he has evolved into a quality GM who runs a great organization.