JFK Assassination...Your Honest Thoughts

[Dodger12]

thought you guys might enjoy Jesse "The Body" Ventura's take on this
He's crazy and the show is exactly that....a show....but it's entertaining nonetheless. And even includes a deathbed confession!! Enjoy?

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The basis of this test is that he fire three rounds in five seconds with a weapon that is obviously unfamiliar to him. A tough task, no doubt. But as the video continues, you'll see that he gets off 3 shots in 8 plus seconds after a couple of attempts where he becomes familiar with the weapon. He even claimed to have made head shots. He calls the shots impossible though because of the five second time limit which is not the proper time frame.

 

[Hostile]

This is where the head shot came from.

No sir. There is literally no way it did. If a shot came from there it missed completely and Oswald fired twice and hit him both times.

 

[Hostile]

Instead of trying to constantly prove Oswald's feat is possible or impossible; the impossible feat they ought to try and prove is the blood and brain splatter of a head shot from the knoll.

It can't be done. Exit wounds are larger than entry wounds and the left side of his head is virtually unchanged. No shot from the right will produce that wound nor the results. Not from any caliber of gun ever made, handgun or rifle.

Explain that away with black helicopters and Catcher in the Rye. I'm pissed that Oswald is not linked to that book by the way.

 

[Concord]

No sir. There is literally no way it did. If a shot came from there it missed completely and Oswald fired twice and hit him both times.

No Sir...I don't agree with you.

From the Grassy Knoll it came.

 

[Yeagermeister]

No Sir...I don't agree with you.

From the Grassy Knoll it came.

If it came from there wouldn't JFK be leaning backwards instead of forward?

The way he is leaning would indicate a shot from the rear.

Just going by this picture

 

[Dodger12]

thought you guys might enjoy Jesse "The Body" Ventura's take on this
He's crazy and the show is exactly that....a show....but it's entertaining nonetheless. And even includes a deathbed confession!! Enjoy?

[youtube]S1pinIxI71I[/youtube]

In the reference you are refering to by Roberts, he's elludes to how a professional team would set up an ambush or assasination. Basically, three shooters at various points, focusing on a target in a designated kill zone. If there were multiple shooters, it's likely that there were multiple shots. I don't know how many but it is resonable to assume multiple shots if that is the case.

However, lets assume that the comments from Roberts and Hathcock never happened for the sake of discussion. You still get back to the point that the FBI and the Army could not reproduce the shot with the same weapon. I have a hard time getting around this.

He lays out in detail where each of the ten shots landed but, of course, they disappeared when some men in dark suits came and took them. Really? Seriously? How did these men know which bullet holes were from Oswald's gun and which bullet holes were from the "other" shooters? And how lucky for them that the bullet recovered from the governor's gurney came from Oswald's gun and not one of the other shooters even though he claimed that the governor's wound was caused by a second gunman. Really ABQ, this stuff is just so inaccurate, so far fetched and so hard to swallow that it's almost amusing to me that people believe it. And again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or be disrespectful.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3886480&postcount=211

People have tried to tell you that it's not impossible, that they can do it and the shots have been recreated using the correct time line but if you can't believe it, then you can't believe it and there's no amount of evidence that will satisfy you (I did see your response to the above thread).

I've also seen recreations where the shots were made using the correct time line (8.3 seconds I believe) on moving targets from an elevated platform used to recreate the the TSBD.

 

[Dodger12]

IFrankly, I see no reason why the first shot, had Oswald been the shot everybody seems to contend he was, was not a kill shot. It should have been.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbIjki-HLo&feature=related

Highly probable.........

 

[Aikmaniac]

This is where the head shot came from.

I wonder what those three individuals on the staircase said when/if interviewed

 

[Hostile]

No Sir...I don't agree with you.

From the Grassy Knoll it came.

I don't care if you agree with me. You are wrong. A shot from there would have had a different result than the one we do have.

People always want proof of Oswald's shot. No, show me proof of this shot.

Show me tests that have been done that can produce the wounds in the autopsy. Show me tests that have been done that produce very little blood splatter behind the President but a considerable amount and skull and brain matter in front of him.

It cannot be done. Not with any gun ever made.

Show me where a bullet from that direction would hit his head and then disappear without hitting Mrs. Kennedy or the grass area left of the limo.

Also cannot be done. No such ammo exists or ever has.

Your scenario is impossible. 100% irrefutable.

 

[Hostile]

I wonder what those three individuals on the staircase said when/if interviewed

Not to mention the cop looking exactly in that direction.

Oh wait, he was part of the cover up.

 

[WV Cowboy]

After 20 pages, I'm guessing that nobody actually knows for sure what happened that day.

A lot of interesting speculation though.

 

[Concord]

If it came from there wouldn't JFK be leaning backwards instead of forward?

The way he is leaning would indicate a shot from the rear.

Just going by this picture

You can't go by a still picture.

On the Zapruder film when he gets shot he violently jerks back and then recoils forward and to the left towards Jackie.

 

[Concord]

I wonder what those three individuals on the staircase said when/if interviewed

Good question...wonder if they ever did interview them.

 

[Concord]

I don't care if you agree with me. You are wrong. A shot from there would have had a different result than the one we do have.

People always want proof of Oswald's shot. No, show me proof of this shot.

Show me tests that have been done that can produce the wounds in the autopsy. Show me tests that have been done that produce very little blood splatter behind the President but a considerable amount and skull and brain matter in front of him.

It cannot be done. Not with any gun ever made.

Show me where a bullet from that direction would hit his head and then disappear without hitting Mrs. Kennedy or the grass area left of the limo.

Also cannot be done. No such ammo exists or ever has.

Your scenario is impossible. 100% irrefutable.

The shot hit him Right Temple area at a obviously less that 90% angle...plus his head was slightly turned to the left at that point and proceeded to blow the back of his head out...Jackie climbs out on the Limo Trunk in back of him to get part of his skull

Not to mention the cop looking exactly in that direction.

Oh wait, he was part of the cover up.

You don't know what he's looking at...it looks like he's looking at Kennedy's Limo...which he probably is.

 

[Hostile]

The shot hit him Right Temple area at a obviously less that 90% angle...plus his head was slightly turned to the left at that point and proceeded to blow the back of his head out...Jackie climbs out on the Limo Trunk in back of him to get part of his skull.

The back of his head is not blown out. It is the area above the right eye and temple.

A shot from the right would have either gone through his head and hit Jackie or the grass behind the limo. It would not disappear. There is no evidence that will ever support a shot from the right causing that type of injury. In other words, a huge entry wound and no exit wound at all. Plus the fact that the bullet disappears. They'd have been digging it out of the grass if it was shot from above and to the right.

A shot from the knoll is possible but it missed completely. Limo, bodies, grass, and it must have disintegrated into thin air.

You're trying to tell me that blood blows backwards from a gunshot. No it doesn't. It blows forward. It sprays backwards from a blow with a blunt object. No one in an invisibility cloak runs up to the limo and smacks the President in the head.

 

[Yeagermeister]

You can't go by a still picture.

On the Zapruder film when he gets shot he violently jerks back and then recoils forward and to the left towards Jackie.

Back and to the left
Back and to the left
Back and to the left

 

[Concord]

The back of his head is not blown out. It is the area above the right eye and temple.

A shot from the right would have either gone through his head and hit Jackie or the grass behind the limo. It would not disappear. There is no evidence that will ever support a shot from the right causing that type of injury. In other words, a huge entry wound and no exit wound at all. Plus the fact that the bullet disappears. They'd have been digging it out of the grass if it was shot from above and to the right.

A shot from the knoll is possible but it missed completely. Limo, bodies, grass, and it must have disintegrated into thin air.

You're trying to tell me that blood blows backwards from a gunshot. No it doesn't. It blows forward. It sprays backwards from a blow with a blunt object. No one in an invisibility cloak runs up to the limo and smacks the President in the head.

It didn't hit Jackie because she was leaning forward in from of him trying to talk/see what was wrong with him.

When a head explodes...blood blows all over the place.

Plus the limo was moving open aired...who knows exactly where blood will go.

I'm not saying I'd bet my life that a shot came from the Grassy Knoll...but I think it did.

 

[Hoofbite]

The back of his head is not blown out. It is the area above the right eye and temple.

A shot from the right would have either gone through his head and hit Jackie or the grass behind the limo. It would not disappear. There is no evidence that will ever support a shot from the right causing that type of injury. In other words, a huge entry wound and no exit wound at all. Plus the fact that the bullet disappears. They'd have been digging it out of the grass if it was shot from above and to the right.

A shot from the knoll is possible but it missed completely. Limo, bodies, grass, and it must have disintegrated into thin air.

You're trying to tell me that blood blows backwards from a gunshot. No it doesn't. It blows forward. It sprays backwards from a blow with a blunt object. No one in an invisibility cloak runs up to the limo and smacks the President in the head.

You know a little too much about blood splatter.........

Got a few skeletons in your closet?

 

[casmith07]

You know a little too much about blood splatter.........

Got a few skeletons in your closet?

LoL...dude's killed quite a few deer in his lifetime.

 

[Concord]

Back and to the left
Back and to the left
Back and to the left

This was close to his vantage point.

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