JFK Assassination...Your Honest Thoughts

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WarC;3888126 said:
I've worked with an Argentine mauser 30-06 (a lot of the mausers made for the americas were built that way, or were modified). The action is pretty rough, plus you do have to carry that bolt up and back pretty far. They're not the most accurate rifles either. However if you've seen any of that old black and white war footage, someone decently trained with one could shoot pretty fast.

The Carcano rifle that Oswald shot shared some design characteristics with a previous German rifle, the Gewehr 88, which Mauser did not make or produce. I've never shot a Carcano so I can't comment on that. I just watched the youtube clip of Ventura firing one, but it looks like his was in particularly bad shape...No way the bolt action should be that rough.

Also doesn't that he's working an angle.

His commentary was pretty funny though.
 

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Anjinsan;3888090 said:
No, but I've shot several bolt action rifles where the action takes much longer to operate than the Carcano.

Well I've driven cars that take much longer to go from 0 - 60 mph than a Lamborghini. But I don't think that gives me any insight on what it's like to take a Lamborghini from 0 - 60.
 

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Phoenix;3887989 said:
I dunno. This guy seems to make some sense for the case of multiple head shots.

[youtube]IVfIh-8nXyQ[/youtube]

My God, is he really using MS Paint to make his case?
 

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Hostile;3888291 said:
I stopped as soon as I saw that.

He doesn't like your buddy Dale Myers and his computer animations much either.....

[youtube]kJrH62TkCWE[/youtube]

Not too much MS Paint in this video.:D
 

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CowboyDan;3888345 said:
He doesn't like your buddy Dale Myers and his computer animations much either.....

[youtube]kJrH62TkCWE[/youtube]

Not too much MS Paint in this video.:D

That's pretty good.
 

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CowboyDan;3888345 said:
He doesn't like your buddy Dale Myers and his computer animations much either.....

[youtube]kJrH62TkCWE[/youtube]

Not too much MS Paint in this video.:D
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

This goober thinks a 2nd shooter from the knoll killed Kennedy and 3rd shooter hit Connally at the exact same instant that Oswald hit Kennedy and that all 3 fired so simultaneously that it sounds like one shot on film? 3 shooters? Why not 4, 5, 6, 7? Why not a whole platoon of Cuban and Russian solders paratrooping in.

Oh yeah, that is Red Dawn. My bad.

:rolleyes:
 

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Hostile;3888414 said:
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

This goober thinks a 2nd shooter from the knoll killed Kennedy and 3rd shooter hit Connally at the exact same instant that Oswald hit Kennedy and that all 3 fired so simultaneously that it sounds like one shot on film? 3 shooters? Why not 4, 5, 6, 7? Why not a whole platoon of Cuban and Russian solders paratrooping in.

Oh yeah, that is Red Dawn. My bad.

:rolleyes:

I posted his video to show you how he debunks the video you posted. I'm not saying his theory is correct, because I don't agree with his theory.
 

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CowboyDan;3888418 said:
I posted his video to show you how he debunks the video you posted. I'm not saying his theory is correct, because I don't agree with his theory.
He didn't debunk it. He debunked himself form being taken seriously.

A wise man looks at reasoning and accepts that his theory is wrong and seeks to learn from it. This guy has basically looked for another way to prove something that cannot be proven.

Has anyone seen a reconstruction of a shot from the knoll? I mean beside the one with the rifle too powerful that took off the mannequin's head. Can anyone produce a video of a bullet that can inflict the magic injury that Zapruder shows? A hit in the front with backwards blood splatter and an evaporating bullet?

Anyone? Buehler? Buehler? Buehler? Frye? Frye? Frye?
 

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You're missing the point. He clearly showed how animation boy pulled a little sleight of hand on you.
 

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Is this an accurate depiction of what a bullet does to a target? In other words, would you say this is a real photo or a fake?

EdgertonBullet.jpg
 

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CowboyDan;3888465 said:
You're missing the point. He clearly showed how animation boy pulled a little sleight of hand on you.
Animation boy makes infinitely more sense. That is my point.
 

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CowboyDan;3888484 said:
Is this an accurate depiction of what a bullet does to a target? In other words, would you say this is a real photo or a fake?

Even if it was it doesn't work for Kennedy because the bullet still exists.
 

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I'll take that as a "yes."

And do we agree that there was blood and other matter on the trunk of the car, as well as inside the car, in front of Kennedy?
 

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CowboyDan;3888495 said:
I'll take that as a "yes."

And do we agree that there was blood and other matter on the trunk of the car, as well as inside the car, in front of Kennedy?
Apples don't have skulls that alter bullet aspects.

Uh huh, but none of that type of exit splatter on Jackie.

How do you explain that?

How do you explain the bullet disintegrating and not hitting more things as the "magic bullet" did?

How do you explain the throngs of people running up the stairs to the area where you think a shooter was?
 

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Hostile;3888522 said:
Apples don't have skulls that alter bullet aspects.

Uh huh, but none of that type of exit splatter on Jackie.

How do you explain that?

How do you explain the bullet disintegrating and not hitting more things as the "magic bullet" did?

How do you explain the throngs of people running up the stairs to the area where you think a shooter was?

I'll get to all that, jeez. One step at a time. I'll take that as a "yes" too.
Do we both agree that the 3rd bullet was never recovered, but that there were fragments of it found in his skull at entry and exit, whichever one is which?
 

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jwitten82;3884985 said:
[youtube]UFpPjjKdUds[/youtube]
I always thought this was interesting
Something about this video really troubled me. People want a conspiracy to be true so bad that they will distort anything. I could not put my finger on it at first, then it dawned on me. The limo turns right, not left. This footage was taken not directly before the kill but as they were leaving Love Field.

Here's actual news footage that shows this. It happens at the 1:21 mark.

[youtube]rEVfKKjODBg[/youtube]
 

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CowboyDan;3888484 said:
Is this an accurate depiction of what a bullet does to a target? In other words, would you say this is a real photo or a fake?

EdgertonBullet.jpg

This is an accurate depiction of what a bullet does to an apple.

This wouldn't happen to be one those really good apples that Hos was talking about a while back would it?

I've yet to try one and seeing one splattered like this seems like such a waste.
 
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