Joe Biddle... "Jerry Jones would love to have Jeff fisher"

Irony:

CZ fans drooling over another teams 0-6 coach, and said coach just presided over a team that got handed one of the worst beatdowns in modern NFL history.

Drool over someone else people. This guy is not a bigtime NFL coach. Stay anywhere long enough, your likely to have a few decent seasons here or there.

My how the ceiling is set so low here now.
 
Rampage;3024190 said:
who's gonna play linebacker?

Bradie at MLB. Brooking at OLB. Then a drafted player or FA at the other OLB position.

Ware,Igor,Ratliff and Spencer as the 4 DL. We wouldn't have to resign Spears since he would be a DT.

Just a thought. So we wouldn't have to have pre-reqs for defensive coaches and have 3-4 tunnel vision. I don't want to not have us hire a coach because "he doesn't know the 3-4" You know?
 
SLATEmosphere;3024202 said:
Bradie at MLB. Brooking at OLB. Then a drafted player or FA at the other OLB position.

Ware,Igor,Ratliff and Spencer as the 4 DL. We wouldn't have to resign Spears since he would be a DT.

Just a thought. So we wouldn't have to have pre-reqs for defensive coaches and have 3-4 tunnel vision.
bradie at MLB in a 4-3:lmao:

better thought.

#1 get a coach from Baltimore or Pittsburgh who know how to run a 3-4 defense to it's fullest capabilities

#2 find atleast 1 safety who can do anything positive

#3 find an OLB who can get to the qb.
 
SLATEmosphere;3024202 said:
Bradie at MLB. Brooking at OLB. Then a drafted player or FA at the other OLB position.

Ware,Igor,Ratliff and Spencer as the 4 DL. We wouldn't have to resign Spears since he would be a DT.

Just a thought. So we wouldn't have to have pre-reqs for defensive coaches and have 3-4 tunnel vision. I don't want to not have us hire a coach because "he doesn't know the 3-4" You know?

Even Parcells admitted that Ware could not be a 4-3 end on a full time basis,the tackles would kill him with the constant pounding.

Craig
 
Rampage;3024204 said:
better thought.

#1 get a coach from Baltimore or Pittsburgh who know how to run a 3-4 defense to it's fullest capabilities

#2 find atleast 1 safety who can do anything positive

#3 find an OLB who can get to the qb.

Agree'd, I'm just saying to keep our options open.
 
SLATEmosphere;3024213 said:
lol is that a bad idea? He'd be a pretty good MLB in a 4-3.
how do you figure? linebackers in the 4-3 have to be faster and better in coverage than 3-4 linebackers. James is not fast or good in coverage. plus he's not smart enough to be a MLB in a 3-4 let alone a 4-3.
 
Bach;3023937 said:
I've always liked Fisher and he's much better than all the HC's Jerry's hired not named Jimmy or Bill.

But when you look at it, they've had a lot of "nice" seasons but only made it to one SB and that was 10 years ago and ended in a loss. And right now they are totally stinking the joint up.

But I think we could do much worse, and 4 of our last 5 hires were just that. Right now I'm not as sold on Fisher as I was 5-10 years ago, but I think he probably just needs a change of scenery. I definitely wouldn't have a problem if he became the next HC in Dallas next year.

Bill was living on past accomplishmentas by the time he got here. Fischer would be much better than Bill
 
dbair1967;3024199 said:
Irony:

CZ fans drooling over another teams 0-6 coach, and said coach just presided over a team that got handed one of the worst beatdowns in modern NFL history.

Drool over someone else people. This guy is not a bigtime NFL coach. Stay anywhere long enough, your likely to have a few decent seasons here or there.

My how the ceiling is set so low here now.

The guy has done more with less than probably any other coach in the NFL. I'll take him anyday of the week over wade.
 
miamicowboy21;3023907 said:
I'm listening to his radio show as we speak. Bud Adams has put fisher on notice. Biddle said Jerry would love to have fisher and rub it into Bud Adams face. The only sticking point is that the titans would owe fisher 21 million, Biddle also pointed out that if he were to keep fisher Defensive coordinator Chuck Cecil would have to go. If fisher dosen't approve Adams could give him the axe.....stay tuned.

Fisher instead of Red at the helm??? I'll take it.
 
Bradie is more of a 4-3 OLB, which is what he played at LSU and his first years here when we still ran a 4-3 Parcells first two years.

Brooking's best years have come as an ILB in the Phillips 3-4, including this one, and not when he was an OLB in a 4-3, nor the couple years he actually played MLB in a 4-3.
 
He's overrated. No thanks. He's not a bad coach, but he's certainly not an elite one.
 
Future;3023947 said:
Would he bring the 4-3 with him? Jerry and co. have spent a lot of time, effort, and money to get the personnel for a 3-4, I wonder if Fisher would bend there.

I think we have the players to run the 4-3, but I think we'd be committed to the 3-4 at this point.


That's an interesting theory. Let's look at it from a personnel POV.

DE's: Ware and Spencer ( rotating with Brandon Williams ). Spencer would need to gain roughly another 10 lbs, as would Williams. Spencer and Ware would be terrors coming off the edge under Fisher's 46 type defenses and Brandon Williams is built with their same mold. ALL Three played DE in college so the transition should be smooth. We'd need one more project to complete a 4 man rotation, but we can get him in the 3rd - 5th round range of the draft since we don't need him to start right away.

DT: One of the strongest, deepest position of the team. Starters Jay Ratliff ( who'd become an instant ALL PRO ) and Olshansky ( Tony Casilla mold ). Rotation of Jason Hatcher ( he'd benefit tremendously by the switch ), Stephen Bowen ( who'd be a terrific part time DT ) and " maybe " Marcus Spears if he's brought back, but I doubt it. We might draft a project to fill the 5th spot, if they'd want to carry 5 DTs and not bring Spears back.

MLB: Bradie James ( although I'm not too sure if he has enough speed for Fisher's D, and I question his instint for the position ) would get the starting role initinally. Brooking would be his back up in an emergency.

SAM: Keith Brookinsg would start at SAM since he has the most experience in coverage. The problem would be converting Victor Butler to a SAM, so he can take over Brooking eventually. Butler is a natural pass rusher, but at 6'2, 240 lbs, he's too small for DE so he'd have to change to SAM. I don't know if he'll be able to make the transition, though, because he's going from rushing the QB all out to stopping the run first and covering TEs next. BARBIE would benefit from the switch too.

WILL: Jason Williams would be the logical starter. As 4-3 WILL 'backer, Jason would be in his element because that position should fit him like a glove like it did Dexter Coakley and Dixon Edwards. Stephen Hodge would be his back up and he, too, would benefit tremendously from the switch.

Obviously we're going to need some help here. Perhaps draft a MLB to groom for the future, and if Butler can't make the transition, another LB or two for SAM.

The DB's shouldn't change much, although I don't think Ken Hamlin would survive under Fisher with his poor tackling skills. That's one thing that DBs must do in his D ( despite of what they've shown this year ).
 
DallasEast;3024055 said:
So!

A show of hands for anyone wanting Jeff Fisher, but who has also said that it doesn't matter who Jerry Jones hires as a head coach, since the team will never amount to anything as long as he's the general manager?

You should get it right first before you throw it out there.

It's not whether he has the title of general manager, it's about how much control he maintains and the way he run things. If he controls most of the personnel decisons and hires many of the assistants and let's the players go over the coaches head and come directly to him, then yeah, the team will likely never amount to anything.

But if he does what he did when Jimmy and BP were here, ie, hire a quality HC, let the HC control his own staff, allow the HC to have considerable say in personnel decisons, and give the HC the proper authority he deserves to do his job, then we can still be successful even if Jerry remains "GM".
 
fiveandcounting;3024252 said:
Bill was living on past accomplishmentas by the time he got here. Fischer would be much better than Bill

I dont' disagree that BP was at the end of the line in his coaching career. Although, it is debateable whether Fisher's best years are behind him. I still think it'd be worth it, especially if Jerry allows him to hire his own staff.
 
Bach;3024335 said:
You should get it right first before you throw it out there.

It's not whether he has the title of general manager, it's about how much control he maintains and the way he run things. If he controls most of the personnel decisons and hires many of the assistants and let's the players go over the coaches head and come directly to him, then yeah, the team will likely never amount to anything.

But if he does what he did when Jimmy and BP were here, ie, hire a quality HC, let the HC control his own staff, allow the HC to have considerable say in personnel decisons, and give the HC the proper authority he deserves to do his job, then we can still be successful even if Jerry remains "GM".
Bach, Jerry Jones will never measure up to your criteria. Let's be honest. He may eventually end up with a winning formula again, but he'll most likely do so without an endorsement from yourself.
 

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