John Clayton on EE suspension

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It doesn't matter of they don't like it. There was no rule broken here so there is nothing to enforce.


Under collective bargaining between the NFL and NFLPA, player conduct detrimental to the league which Goodell has full authority to impose suspensions and or fines for off field player conduct......
 

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Under collective bargaining between the NFL and NFLPA, player conduct detrimental to the league which Goodell has full authority to impose suspensions and or fines for off field player conduct......
There was still no rule broken....... not wifing up your booty call is not against the rules

Being falsely accused is not a violation
 

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If I was Jerry and Zeke this is where I would go to court and demand all evidence be published. Wanna bet the NFL would cut and run at that point?

Yes...let's publish that video of him grabbing that womans top and exposing her breasts....Jesus...the guy is lucky he hasn't been charged...and this wasn't a bigger deal.:rolleyes:
 

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Well said, but the "victim complex" isn't just a Dallas thing. Some of my fellow Hawks fans suffer from it as well, it's the same with every fanbase.
Probably right, I've just noticed it picking up here over the past few years plus this is about the only sports MB I frequent.
 

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They won't do that until he turns on them which he has already done with a few of them.

As long as Goodell makes this league(and players) boat loads of money and there isn't more national negative news with regards to the league like the Ray Rice incident where Sponsors cut ties with the league, he isn't going anywhere, regardless of the constant whining of Cowboy fans who think their team is so unfairly sanctioned...
 

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There was still no rule broken....... not wifing up your booty call is not against the rules

Being falsely accused is not a violation


Really, show me the specific rule about deflating footballs for which Brady was suspended 4 games.....show me the specific rule for pulling a gun on someone( if that allegation turns out to be true against Damian Wilson) based on evidence......so ZEKE being falsely accused, you know this how, have you seen the evidence....I doubt it, so you based that conclusion on what??? We know from video evidence, he lifted a woman's top without her consent...how about instead of defending players because they play for the Cowboys, how about you demand they change their off field behavior, therefore they would be exposed to player conduct detrimental to the league suspensions by Goodell...is it really that hard to grasp!
 

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Really, show me the specific rule about deflating footballs for which Brady was suspended 4 games.....show me the specific rule for pulling a gun on someone( if that allegation turns out to be true against Damian Wilson) based on evidence......so ZEKE being falsely accused, you know this how, have you seen the evidence....I doubt it, so you based that conclusion on what??? We know from video evidence, he lifted a woman's top without her consent...how about instead of defending players because they play for the Cowboys, how about you demand they change their off field behavior, therefore they would be exposed to player conduct detrimental to the league suspensions by Goodell...is it really that hard to grasp!

There are "specific rules" for deflating footballs. It reads as followed

" Rule 2, Section 1 of the NFL Rule Book says that the balls must be a certain weight, length, width and even color.

The Ball must be a “Wilson,” hand selected, bearing the signature of the Commissioner of the League, Roger Goodell.

The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) urethane bladder enclosed in a pebble grained, leather case (natural tan color) without corrugations of any kind. It shall have the form of a prolate spheroid and the size and weight shall be: long axis, 11 to 11 1/4 inches; long circumference, 28 to 28 1/2 inches; short circumference, 21 to 21 1/4 inches; weight, 14 to 15 ounces.

The Referee shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications. A pump is to be furnished by the home club, and the balls shall remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant just prior to the start of the game."

"show me the specific rule for pulling a gun on someone( if that allegation turns out to be true against Damian Wilson) based on evidence"

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2014/12/10/0ap3000000441637.pdf

You can read it all here, you need to brush up on the rules.

What you're putting out there is not comparable to what is happening to Zeke. Him hanging out with friends, her being vindictive and lying and trying to tarnish his name is not comparable to 1. A player cheating 2. Someone being charged with assault (against the rules)

Now yeah, we can go back to "Goodell can do what he wants" this does not = right. Until you can show Zeke did something wrong outside of wanting to chill with friends, this isn't an argument.

"We know from video evidence, he lifted a woman's top without her consent"

Irrelevant, stay on topic. That's not being investigated.

As for how we know he's being falsely accused? Well, text messages were released a long time ago, chief.

http://dailysnark.com/released-text...iotts-girlfriend-lying-set-domestic-violence/
 
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Why is the incident in March being discussed when it likely has nothing to do with what he is being investigated about?
 
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Honestly if he does get suspended I hope it his against the Giants. Before everyone gets their panties in a wad hear me out. I don't want to say Zeke was a non factor against the Giants but he clearly had "little" success against them compared to most teams. The bulk of the Giants defense is returning and we still have one of the best o lines in football.

My point is, if we want to beat the Giants which I think we can and will do, we need to change up the game plan. The Giants are great at stuffing the run but not so much in the sack department. If Garrett can get a little more creative by still running the ball, but passing it more, especially across the middle against their sub par lb's, we should win. Their o line still sucks and they won't be able to move the ball. We just can't do what we did last year and expect Zeke (or whoever) to carry the entire load.
I bet your Giants fan "room mate" will be happy if Zeke doesn't play game 1.
 

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Honestly if he does get suspended I hope it his against the Giants. Before everyone gets their panties in a wad hear me out. I don't want to say Zeke was a non factor against the Giants but he clearly had "little" success against them compared to most teams. The bulk of the Giants defense is returning and we still have one of the best o lines in football.

My point is, if we want to beat the Giants which I think we can and will do, we need to change up the game plan. The Giants are great at stuffing the run but not so much in the sack department. If Garrett can get a little more creative by still running the ball, but passing it more, especially across the middle against their sub par lb's, we should win. Their o line still sucks and they won't be able to move the ball. We just can't do what we did last year and expect Zeke (or whoever) to carry the entire load.
I hardly see any good reason or sound logic in your best offensive player not playing against your rival. He had actually had a decent 2nd game. Why they stopped giving him the ball in the the 2nfmd half when you're still leading or only down by three is beyond me.
 

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There was still no rule broken....... not wifing up your booty call is not against the rules

Being falsely accused is not a violation

Again you have it wrong. The Commissioner can and will look at at 3 reported incidents for a pattern of behavior whether he was eventually charged or not. If he
determines that EE's conduct was detrimental to the league, he can suspend him or fine him at his leisure. The NFL and players union operate within a contract
and he has the power. EE does not have to be charged or convicted of anything to be punished by the NFL.
 

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Again you have it wrong. The Commissioner can and will look at at 3 reported incidents for a pattern of behavior whether he was eventually charged or not. If he
determines that EE's conduct was detrimental to the league, he can suspend him or fine him at his leisure. The NFL and players union operate within a contract
and he has the power. EE does not have to be charged or convicted of anything to be punished by the NFL.
WRONG

EE still has to have done something wrong, not just be accused

The Commish has been pimp-slapped by the courts several times for overstepping and this would be an easy one

Really, show me the specific rule about deflating footballs for which Brady was suspended 4 games.....show me the specific rule for pulling a gun on someone( if that allegation turns out to be true against Damian Wilson) based on evidence......so ZEKE being falsely accused, you know this how, have you seen the evidence....I doubt it, so you based that conclusion on what??? We know from video evidence, he lifted a woman's top without her consent...how about instead of defending players because they play for the Cowboys, how about you demand they change their off field behavior, therefore they would be exposed to player conduct detrimental to the league suspensions by Goodell...is it really that hard to grasp!
Actually the evidence does show his innocence.....that is why the cops dropped it.....they have several eye witnesses and texts from the accuser that exonerate EE.... quit wish casting your jealousy on Cowboy players, rooting for their demise
 

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WRONG

EE still has to have done something wrong, not just be accused

The Commish has been pimp-slapped by the courts several times for overstepping and this would be an easy one


Actually the evidence does show his innocence.....that is why the cops dropped it.....they have several eye witnesses and texts from the accuser that exonerate EE.... quit wish casting your jealousy on Cowboy players, rooting for their demise


A Video of Touching and Lifting a woman's shirt exposing her breast without her consent isn't evidence to you??? There isn't just one incident, there's numerous, Zeke needs to grow up and start acting like a professional! This is professional football not a baby sitting league

If you remember Brady tried going to court and the judgement wasn't with regards to the Goodell's authority to enact punishment , but by the process which was then overturned on appeal and Brady served his 4 game suspension...


And Police don't drop charges, the District attorney does...that doesn't mean he's innocent, it means there's not enough evidence in his judgement to warrant/guarantee a criminal charge/conviction, the NFL doesn't need to meet that standard, and it fall under the player conduct detrimental to the league powers of Goodell.....If Zeke is suspended for a game or two, he has nobody to blame but himself
 

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A Video of Touching and Lifting a woman's shirt exposing her breast without her consent isn't evidence to you??? There isn't just one incident, there's numerous, Zeke needs to grow up and start acting like a professional! This is professional football not a baby sitting league

If you remember Brady tried going to court and the judgement wasn't with regards to the Goodell's authority to enact punishment , but by the process which was then overturned on appeal and Brady served his 4 game suspension...


And Police don't drop charges, the District attorney does...that doesn't mean he's innocent, it means there's not enough evidence in his judgement to warrant/guarantee a criminal charge/conviction, the NFL doesn't need to meet that standard, and it fall under the player conduct detrimental to the league powers of Goodell.....If Zeke is suspended for a game or two, he has nobody to blame but himself

I have yet to read anywhere that Zeke is being investigated for the parade incident - do you have a link on this?

And you are ignoring evidence already presented to the public with the girl asking a friend if she should lie - which, well, she did. Unless you think the NFL has turned up more in their investigation?
 

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A Video of Touching and Lifting a woman's shirt exposing her breast without her consent isn't evidence to you???
Evidence of what???? Mardi Gras Partying???? Who said he didn't have consent.....I bet he went home with her...... stop being so jelly ....he is a 21 year athlete having a good time...... he also has a target on his back and you are more than willing to play ball with no proof...... OH NO he walked into a public pot store in Seattle....the horror

Sorry some jock pushed you in a locker in HS.......it wasn't EE..... let it go
 
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