John Clayton on EE suspension

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Evidence of what???? Mardi Gras Partying???? Who said he didn't have consent.....I bet he went home with her...... stop being so jelly ....he is a 21 year athlete having a good time...... he also has a target on his back and you are more than willing to play ball with no proof...... OH NO he walked into a public pot store in Seattle....the horror

Sorry some jock pushed you in a locker in HS.......it wasn't EE..... let it go

If it had been anywhere else then New Orleans Mardi Gras then there you would have a point about that incident. BUT since it happened there at Mardi Gras then no one really can complain since that is pretty much a tradition there that women flash their boobs and all sorts of other rather out there behavior IS EXPECTED.
 
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Zeke Elliot is the man. He's done nothing wrong -- and what's worse than seeing him persecuted by the corrupt league? Our own fanbase.

#FreeZekeElliot

#ZekeAndZestroy

Pretty sad isnt it? I get the fact Zeke has establishing a pattern of questionable behavior but honestly this investigation has been going on for over a year and evidence has been brought forward to dismiss any actual legal consequences. No charges are being filed. Yet some believe Zeke needs to pay for being falsely accused. Wow.

Btw the investigation has nothing to do with Zeke partying with his girlfriend. Cowboy fans have a right to be upset about this. Its an obvious witch hunt.

Id like to see Zeke stay under the radar and sometimes things like his prior actions actually do lead to real problems. That hasnt happened yet and hopefully it never will.
 

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Pretty sad isnt it? I get the fact Zeke has establishing a pattern of questionable behavior but honestly this investigation has been going on for over a year and evidence has been brought forward to dismiss any actual legal consequences. No charges are being filed. Yet some believe Zeke needs to pay for being falsely accused. Wow.

Btw the investigation has nothing to do with Zeke partying with his girlfriend. Cowboy fans have a right to be upset about this. Its an obvious witch hunt.

Id like to see Zeke stay under the radar and sometimes things like his prior actions actually do lead to real problems. That hasnt happened yet and hopefully it never will.
Zeke has been a magnet, there's no doubt that I'd like to see our thoroughbred hang low and out of site, out of mind... but this witch hunt is disgusting.

However, not more disgusting than the Cowboys fans calling for "justice" on our Zeke, tho, with dispicable factual evidence, Rise.

Keep preaching, my brudda!! :) This is all offseason fodder, anyways. Nothing is happening to our stallion. :dance:
 

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I bet your Giants fan "room mate" will be happy if Zeke doesn't play game 1.
I guess my photo shopped pictures can't convince all homers that not everyone believes in the Cowboys conspiracy theory.

Ironic how I'm actually the one being optimistic about it for the first time and that's not good enough for you either. Fine, hopefully he's suspended against a team with a top offense who we won't be able to beat by controlling the clock on the ground. Does that make you feel better?
 

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I hardly see any good reason or sound logic in your best offensive player not playing against your rival. He had actually had a decent 2nd game. Why they stopped giving him the ball in the the 2nfmd half when you're still leading or only down by three is beyond me.
He had a decent second game but wasn't near the game changer he has been in other games against teams with no d line.

My point is, yeah, both games were close but Zeke missing could force JG to be more creative and maybe we'd actually expose their horrendous LB'ers and lack of pass rush.

Whatever though, alright, hopefully he's not suspended against a team that already made him a non factor so we can do the same thing as last year and end up with the same results. Sounds great!
 

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I guess my photo shopped pictures can't convince all homers that not everyone believes in the Cowboys conspiracy theory.

Ironic how I'm actually the one being optimistic about it for the first time and that's not good enough for you either. Fine, hopefully he's suspended against a team with a top offense who we won't be able to beat by controlling the clock on the ground. Does that make you feel better?
I don't believe in any conspiracy theory either. Why do you think I do?

All I said is that your roommate will be happy.

It is kind a neat to see you be optimistic about the Cowboys for the first time instead of the Giants though.
 

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I don't believe in any conspiracy theory either. Why do you think I do?

All I said is that your roommate will be happy.

It is kind a neat to see you be optimistic about the Cowboys for the first time instead of the Giants though.
It's tough, 20 years of mediocrity with the most recent playoff appearance resulting in a loss isn't easy.

My "roommate" couldn't care less about Zeke because they made him such a small factor. Can't say I disagree but hey, the straegy didn't work the first two times so why not try the same thing again. Third times a charm, right?
 

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He had a decent second game but wasn't near the game changer he has been in other games against teams with no d line.

My point is, yeah, both games were close but Zeke missing could force JG to be more creative and maybe we'd actually expose their horrendous LB'ers and lack of pass rush.

Whatever though, alright, hopefully he's not suspended against a team that already made him a non factor so we can do the same thing as last year and end up with the same results. Sounds great!
Again, we stopped giving him the ball in the 2nd half. We didn't even try to run the ball that half. But no matter, what makes you think even with Zeke, they wouldn't try different things in a different season? It makes zero sense that you think having your best offensiven player or perhaps maybe your most important offensive player not play because of the success they had against him last year. What team does that? The offense would be better with Zeke than without Zeke. If not, than what is he here for? If we play better without him in that game, why not start McFadden for the rest of the season?
 
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Again, we stopped giving him the ball in the 2nd half. We didn't even try to run the ball that half. But no matter, what makes you think even with Zeke, they wouldn't try different things in a different season? It makes zero sense that you think having your best offensiven player or perhaps maybe your most important offensive player not play because of the success they had against him last year. What team does that? The offense would be better with Zeke than without Zeke. If not, than what is he here for? If we play better without him in that game, why not start McFadden for the rest of the season?
You make it seem like I think we would be better off without him IF we had a choice. This is assuming he gets a suspension, I'd rather have it be against a team that he "struggled" against rather than a team where he can be more effective and we are able to play our style of football.

In no way do I think it's ideal but if we want to beat the Giants we have to get more creative IMO, we can't try to pound it down their throats like we do against almost every other team.

Not to mention IF it were to happen I'd rather get it over with at the beginning of the season so we can move on.

Edit: looking at our schedule there are only two other teams I would pick to have him suspended for if I had to and each has its own advantages and disadvantages. San Francisco but that's at SF and the Rams. I'm not positive but isn't the Rams secondary considerably better than their D line? Again, not sure on that.
 
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All the visits to cannabis bars?. I think it was one visit to a tourist attraction cannibas store, and wasn't it in Seattle? A bit of a stretch there. A DV thing which has been proven is false. And a party thing, where the girl was ok with the top pulling. Yes that was stupid to do, but it happens.
If you or I did that, it surely wouldn't be news or get us suspended from work.

People need to get off the...they can't make a mistake but we can attitude.

And if JJ had a pair, he would stick up for his team no matter if he's going into the HOF or not. What are they going to do, say...hey you are not allowed to be inducted now? We are cancelling the game and putting in GB....
Whatever..

I love Zeke but he lacks maturity.
 

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The professor just said he wouldn't be surprised if #21 was suspended for 1-2 games and that we might hear about it today.

This is BS and if it hapoenes, it needs to be taken all the way to the highest court that will look at it. How can you get disciplined by the league for something you weren't found guilty of by the law?

He went on to say this would devistate the Cowboys because we already have lost 8 starters. BTW, I'm happy about 5-6 of those. I don't think it will hurt is much for two games.
I dont get it his case with college girl friend was dismissed

Is this about partying and pulling a womans top off.

This is witch hunt.
 

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One more time... Conduct detrimental does not have to equate with a crime or even being charged with a crime. It is whatever is deemed so by the Commissioner. Just like a
4 game suspension for the greatest QB of all time, the Boss can slap a 4 game suspension on EE anytime he feels like it. EE can take it to court but, in the end he will have to
serve the suspension if he wants to play in the league. Might not be fair but, that is the CBA and the power bestowed by the 32 owners.
 

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One more time... Conduct detrimental does not have to equate with a crime or even being charged with a crime. It is whatever is deemed so by the Commissioner. Just like a
4 game suspension for the greatest QB of all time, the Boss can slap a 4 game suspension on EE anytime he feels like it. EE can take it to court but, in the end he will have to
serve the suspension if he wants to play in the league. Might not be fair but, that is the CBA and the power bestowed by the 32 owners.

Yes, we know.

Now you will have to explain what he did. And no, you cannot just give someone a suspension for no reason, Goodell also has people to answer to. So again, what exactly has Zeke done?

Every time I ask this, it seems people go silent or deflect.
 

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The NFL has already proven time and time again that they don't care about Domestic abuse. This all is just to make them look good. They are still dropping the ball. So if anybody lies they're automatically going to believe her even if there's evidence that she's lying. If there was a shred of evidence that Zeke was guilty I wouldn't say a thing but I haven't seen anything.
Well, thats always the case with Goodells NFL. Looking good is the entire plan with Goodells owners. He is just an overpaid lap dog. Its the majority of the owners that are to blame for the hypocrisy that is the modern NFL.
 

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Whatever..

I love Zeke but he lacks maturity.
Quit painting your broad moral strokes on what you think is mature or not, with all due respect, Redball.

Zeke hasn't hit a woman, Zeke had consent for the Mardi Gras dealio. Zeke doesn't use drugs or roids.

He jumps in a kettle and laughs exuberantly when he pulls off a huge block to protect Dak.

Take a breath, all is well.

Zeke is just fine and I wouldn't trade him for the world.
 
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