Twitter: Josh Brent likely to be suspended

[joseephuss]

Maybe don't know

I know Michael Johnson has a workout facility in the Dallas area and many athletes have worked out there in the past. Michael is a Dallas native.

 

[speedkilz88]

If Ben Johnson has a facility it involves HGH and steroids.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

If Ben Johnson has a facility it involves HGH and steroids.

At this point, anything would be an improvement...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I very well could have gotten the name wrong. It's the Dallas based sports training complex that Holland Gurode etc work with NFL linemen.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But it would have been an indefinite suspension, and would have set up the exact same situation as now in having him go in to seek reinstatement. It also wouldn't have helped his cause at all.

Also not sure why his retirement to go on trial and serve the sentence to follow means much. Perhaps it would have been enough had he not dug a deeper hole while waiting to go to trial. He was initially supposed to go to trial in September so he basically retired at a time when he couldn't have played. You retired so you could go to trial and jail, how upstanding of you to do that.

He's probably getting the suspension for the additional failed drug tests last summer while waiting to go on trial, and it's likely that these tests were the thing that prompted him to retire. His retirement came just a couple weeks after he surrendered for the failed tests.

He was probably advised by his lawyer, and Jerry for that matter, to retire just for the sake of preventing any possibility of racking up additional violations of the personal conduct policy.

Or he could have been advised by the NFL who has been involved from the beggining of the tragedy.

 

[Blackspider214]

4-6 games most likely. Max would probably be 8. It definitely won't be a season long deal like Stallworth.

But even so, how much can he contribute? He hasn't played since 2012 and even that, he wasn't that great. The thing he has going for him that Jerry likes is he is still young and plays a position that we are in dire need of.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I would hope the Commish sees fit to deal with Brent with reasonable understanding that a year's suspension would possibly constitute an inordinately harsh punishment. I say this due to the fact that another year's layoff could have a devastating effect upon a player who has already been forced to undergo in excess of a year's separation from football.

Goodell can't let him walk back into the league or he will appear soft again. Just to take a guess I'd say he gets 2-4 games but really, what does it matter? It's not like Brent is a big difference maker that will make our defense legit when he returns.

 

[Bullflop]

Goodell can't let him walk back into the league or he will appear soft again. Just to take a guess I'd say he gets 2-4 games but really, what does it matter? It's not like Brent is a big difference maker that will make our defense legit when he returns.

All Brent would have to do to be a substantial upgrade is simply be average. He was exactly that when he last played.

 

[Bluestang]

I very well could have gotten the name wrong. It's the Dallas based sports training complex that Holland Gurode etc work with NFL linemen.

It's the Michael Johnson Performance Center in McKinney.

Holland is part of the LeCharles Bentley OL Performance center, IIRC Tyron Smith worked there his sophomore year in the offseason also.

 

[Hoofbite]

Or he could have been advised by the NFL who has been involved from the beggining of the tragedy.

Very true. After the first two failures, the league could have told him he can retire and not have any future events be brought up for consideration, or he could risk losing any chance at all of coming back by getting in more trouble.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Very true. After the first two failures, the league could have told him he can retire and not have any future events be brought up for consideration, or he could risk losing any chance at all of coming back by getting in more trouble.

The NFL drug treatment program is explicitly laid out in the CBA. I think there is about a 0% chance that Goodell would list drug tests outside NFL testing as cause.

 

[big dog cowboy]

All Brent would have to do to be a substantial upgrade is simply be average. He was exactly that when he last played.

Right now I'd take that.

 

[Hoofbite]

The NFL drug treatment program is explicitly laid out in the CBA. I think there is about a 0% chance that Goodell would list drug tests outside NFL testing as cause.

He wouldn't have to. He has anything covered with the personal conduct policy.

If he feels additional failed tests and subsequent surrender reflected poorly on the league, he could suspend him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He wouldn't have to. He has anything covered with the personal conduct policy.

If he feels additional failed tests and subsequent surrender reflected poorly on the league, he could suspend him.

Again, the substance abuse portion of the CBA is very explicit. Of course he can do whatever he wants but he won't put a drug test administered outside the CBA testing as cause nevertheless. Your entire narrative is conjecture anyway. We have no way of knowing what discussions took place.

 

[Hoofbite]

Again, the substance abuse portion of the CBA is very explicit. Of course he can do whatever he wants but he won't put a drug test administered outside the CBA testing as cause nevertheless. Your entire narrative is conjecture anyway. We have no way of knowing what discussions took place.

I never said I had it on good authority he was advised to retire for that specific reason, just that it would remove the risk of him being tied to the league's policies should he fail more.

You're statement about what Goodell will or won't do, is also conjecture.

So what? This is a message board, 99% of posts are nothing more than conjecture.

What is explicit in the CBA about the substance abuse policy? I'm not even saying they would be enforcing that policy. I think it would likely be the policy that doesn't care how anything came about, only whether or not you painted a poor picture of the league. Did Brent further cast a shadow on the league by having to surrender for violating the terms of his release? That's up to Goodell.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

One on steroids and one tested positive for stimulants at an extremely low dose 6ppm (same level you'd see by using an over the counter cold medicine) and has since been raised. One called for an immediate ban and the other raised flags for further testing. Not really the same thing but nice try.

then why when your golden cheater is asked about his failed drug test, he doesn't say that, he says "that is the past and I don't want to talk about the past"?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

given the backlash that Goodell got with the whole Ray Rice scenario, I think he is going to bring down the hammer on this suspension.

Naw. In Roger's mind, as lonk as it isn't weed or a nighclub shooting, he's OK with reckless DUI driving resulting in the death of a man.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

After a player has dealt with the criminal justice system, a suspension is essentially meaningless, IMO. I fail to see the point because it looks like they are just piling on after the whistle.

I dont think Brent's lawyer sees it as piling on.
Jose Brent got away with (figuratively) murder. He's lucky to be walking around a free man. Any other guy he'd be in the pen for a dozen years.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I dont think Brent's lawyer sees it as piling on.
Jose Brent got away with (figuratively) murder. He's lucky to be walking around a free man. Any other guy he'd be in the pen for a dozen years.

This is not true. You should look up vehicular manslaughter conviction sentences in Texas.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Brent was a pretty solid player and only getting better. He was easily better than any DT on the current roster other than Melton. And he's probably better than Hayden right now.