Twitter: Josh Brent likely to be suspended

Chocolate Lab said:
I'm pretty sure Eatman said on one of those dc.com shows last week that he'd heard Brent wouldn't get any suspension.
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Never heard Eatman say it, but I did Broaddus and Mickey weigh in with that opinion.
 
It's a good topic and a lot of valid points.

The Leonard Little situation is a good starting point and then so is the Donte Stallworth one. This case is different because of the fact that he already has been out so long. He has served time and missed a lot of football. I really think a suspension at this point is ridiculous...he should be punished his served time...much like Vick was.
 
erod said:
He was very good. Plugged up the middle well against the run.
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You have a strange designation of "very good". Sounds more like serviceable to me. He was a rotational player for the most part and had a few moments.

Very good implies consistent production to me.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
He has been working out with Gurode at Ben Johnsons training academy for the past two months. He was released from rehab before TC began and has been training since.

And he only need be better than Hayden. I am interested in winning football games and 'average' was able to anchor double teams. Bishop struggles with them and Hayden struggles with single blocking.

If you don't want him not matter what then I respect that but the pragmatic argument is pretty cut and dry at this point.
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Rolando McClain had been working out also ......... but he still is not in football shape after actually playing football for weeks.

It will take Brent weeks and weeks to be ready to actually play.
 
Fla Cowpoke said:
It's a good topic and a lot of valid points.

The Leonard Little situation is a good starting point and then so is the Donte Stallworth one. This case is different because of the fact that he already has been out so long. He has served time and missed a lot of football. I really think a suspension at this point is ridiculous...he should be punished his served time...much like Vick was.
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At least you are keeping the argument relevant. In other words, with similar cases.

I just do not get how people do not understand why the Ray Rice situation is different. Not that it is condoned, but that most suspensions are collectively bargained, so there will be some variance when it falls out of that bucket
 
zrinkill said:
Rolando McClain had been working out also ......... but he still is not in football shape after actually playing football for weeks.

It will take Brent weeks and weeks to be ready to actually play.
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There is a difference between working out on your own in Tuscaloosa and working out at the Ben Johnson facility.

You have no idea how long it will take him to get ready from where he is right now.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
I'm pretty sure they aren't putting on pads and scrimmaging at "Ben's" place.
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After all these years, and liking you as a fan...I would have that you would have seen fit to water some other's roots on liking the Cowboys, and not always from a negative set of roots...
 
zrinkill said:
Nothing is the same as playing football with NFL players, no matter what you say.

And neither do you.
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They can do everything and more than the guys on PUP can do. They aren't limited by the CBA in how much he can train. He could be doing 2 a days 5 days a week if they want working with some of the best trainers in the world. They have had two months to work with him.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that when he does join the club, he is in very good condition. Particularly if he was able to train at all in incarceration. It is not unreasonable that he could join the team and head directly to practice and participate fully.

I understand that we are talking about probabilities and it is also not unreasonable to think he may come in a fat slug completely unready to play but I see a range of possibilities and the high end is very desirable from a pragmatic viewpoint.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
They can do everything and more than the guys on PUP can do. They aren't limited by the CBA in how much he can train. He could be doing 2 a days 5 days a week if they want working with some of the best trainers in the world. They have had two months to work with him.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that when he does join the club, he is in very good condition. Particularly if he was able to train at all in incarceration. It is not unreasonable that he could join the team and head directly to practice and participate fully.

I understand that we are talking about probabilities and it is also not unreasonable to think he may come in a fat slug completely unready to play but I see a range of possibilities and the high end is very desirable from a pragmatic viewpoint.
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I hope you are right ...... I really do.

I love this team and anyone that could help them win, I hope they succeed ...... even if it means I was wrong.
 
Alexander said:
Ben Johnson played football? Oh.
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actually at one point I think the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL wanted him to return kicks for them.

PS, best race ever was when he destroyed Carl Lewis in Seoul (and before anyone says on drugs, Carl failed a test earlier that year too) and 6/8 in the final in Seoul were drug cheats :)
 
Never knew he was operating a forklift. "You okay Josh to operate this puppy?"

Okay, that was in poor taste. I like Josh and hope he returns sooner than later. Seriously.
 
CanadianCowboysFan said:
actually at one point I think the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL wanted him to return kicks for them.

PS, best race ever was when he destroyed Carl Lewis in Seoul (and before anyone says on drugs, Carl failed a test earlier that year too) and 6/8 in the final in Seoul were drug cheats :)
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One of my favorite sports moments ever right there...
 
speedkilz88 said:
Agreed.
Brent could have just came to work each day and either played the whole time or forced the Cowboys or the league to suspend him then.
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But it would have been an indefinite suspension, and would have set up the exact same situation as now in having him go in to seek reinstatement. It also wouldn't have helped his cause at all.

Also not sure why his retirement to go on trial and serve the sentence to follow means much. Perhaps it would have been enough had he not dug a deeper hole while waiting to go to trial. He was initially supposed to go to trial in September so he basically retired at a time when he couldn't have played. You retired so you could go to trial and jail, how upstanding of you to do that.

He's probably getting the suspension for the additional failed drug tests last summer while waiting to go on trial, and it's likely that these tests were the thing that prompted him to retire. His retirement came just a couple weeks after he surrendered for the failed tests.

He was probably advised by his lawyer, and Jerry for that matter, to retire just for the sake of preventing any possibility of racking up additional violations of the personal conduct policy.
 
does he have to be on a roster for the suspension to take effect or can he serve it as a free agent and we pick him up after its through
 
CanadianCowboysFan said:
actually at one point I think the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL wanted him to return kicks for them.

PS, best race ever was when he destroyed Carl Lewis in Seoul (and before anyone says on drugs, Carl failed a test earlier that year too) and 6/8 in the final in Seoul were drug cheats :)
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One on steroids and one tested positive for stimulants at an extremely low dose 6ppm (same level you'd see by using an over the counter cold medicine) and has since been raised. One called for an immediate ban and the other raised flags for further testing. Not really the same thing but nice try.
 
Am I missing an inside joke or something? I thought Brent was working out at the Michael Johnson facility, not the Ben Johnson facility.
 
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