Josh Gordon is likely on his way out

TheMarathonContinues

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I thought about the same thing this morning. I would get flamed for making this topic, but I think there is validity to it.

If Gordon is released, I would sign him and trade Williams for a pick or a player to help the defense.

The offense would be unstoppable and the defense would be much upgraded.

I'd take Gordon but keep Terrance. Gordon simply has too much baggage for me to spend crazy money on or give up on Terrance for.

But the way the offense is currently constructed.......there's no use for Gordon here. Unless as a consolation if Dez leaves.
 

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You won't see me complaining about going all in during Romo's last years.

And all those dismissing the idea would quickly change their tune if this happened. Suddenly Gordon would be an outstanding human being who is just misunderstood.

You homer you

BTW between josh Brent, AP, josh Gordon and Greg hardy we could have quite the Murderers row next year
 

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No to Gordon, no to AP and also no to Suh.....
No jokes about anything, just no to them.

Besides issues off the field as well as on the field with Gordon and Suh. And Peterson is getting up there in years for a RB. And all will cost to much against the cap, as there won't be cap friendly deals from any of them.

As much as the talent would be interesting, just not worth it. How much does AP actually have left. Maybe a lot, maybe not. But I wouldn't want to take that chance.

They sold the future too many times on older or top talented players, and none of them really worked out, or was that big difference maker.

Stay with the draft and youth and mid level FA's. Things are working fine without the big splash, or the WOW players......

I can definitely appreciate that perspective
 

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I'd take Gordon but keep Terrance. Gordon simply has too much baggage for me to spend crazy money on or give up on Terrance for.

But the way the offense is currently constructed.......there's no use for Gordon here. Unless as a consolation if Dez leaves.

And that would be a huge mistake. Letting an elite WR go for one who's 1 more infraction away from an indefinite ban. Not to mention, 3 more years of developing chemistry with the QB and new WR.
 

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No one said to pay Gordon off the bat.

Well that's why I said "or give up on Terrance for". I have no questions about Terrance on or off the field. I wouldn't give up on him for Josh Gordon. A guy who can't even stay on the field for the lowly Browns.
 

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And that would be a huge mistake. Letting an elite WR go for one who's 1 more infraction away from an indefinite ban. Not to mention, 3 more years of developing chemistry with the QB and new WR.

The only way Dez leaves is if some team gives him some crazy deal money wise. I don't believe the Cowboys would invest Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald money in Dez.
 

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Well that's why I said "or give up on Terrance for". I have no questions about Terrance on or off the field. I wouldn't give up on him for Josh Gordon. A guy who can't even stay on the field for the lowly Browns.

I have a lot of questions about him on the field. Can he produce for an entire season without disappearing? I don't know the answer to that.
 

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The only way Dez leaves is if some team gives him some crazy deal money wise. I don't believe the Cowboys would invest Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald money in Dez.

He doesn't leave. He gets the tag if they don't agree.
 

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He doesn't leave. He gets the tag if they don't agree.

Maybe. But I sort of assumed or hope that Demarco would be the one getting the tag.

I have a lot of questions about him on the field. Can he produce for an entire season without disappearing? I don't know the answer to that.

I think his "disappearing" act was more so a product of Cole Beasley, Dez and Jason Witten being featured in the offense more than it was Terrance simply disappearing.
 

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Maybe. But I sort of assumed or hope that Demarco would be the one getting the tag.



I think his "disappearing" act was more so a product of Cole Beasley, Dez and Jason Witten being featured in the offense more than it was Terrance simply disappearing.

It wasn't. He wasn't getting open and when he was targetted he wasn't catching the ball...
 

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Gordon has 1 year left on his contract. That means it is a contract year. If we traded for him, it would be worth it. Worst case scenario we lose a low round draft pick. He is still on his rookie deal.

Who is saying sign Peterson to a 7 year deal? How do you know how much he will cost?

Yeah, no to Suh.

Gordon if acquired via trade would have 2 years left on his deal thanks to getting suspended for Sundays game.
 

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last thing this team needs is another receiver, and especially a guy that doesn't get it which clearly Gordon doesn't
 

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Gordon has 1 year left on his contract. That means it is a contract year. If we traded for him, it would be worth it. Worst case scenario we lose a low round draft pick. He is still on his rookie deal.

Who is saying sign Peterson to a 7 year deal? How do you know how much he will cost?

Yeah, no to Suh.

Do you really think Peterson would do a 2 or 3 year deal. Plus he will still want big money. Pay that to Murray instead. No one said 7 years, and you don't know he would give a discount either.

Why give away a draft pick for Gordon for only 1 year. He too will want big money after that contact is up, or if renegotiated. We do not need another WR. I know you do not like Williams, but that draft pick can be better used for a need position.

Not against Peterson coming here altogether, but only at the right deal as well as not getting a young stud rb if murray leaves. I just prefer not to. But Gordon and the possibility of him screwing up, no thanks.
Can't make every player get over their past issues. I think this would be a big gamble.
 

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Do you really think Peterson would do a 2 or 3 year deal. Plus he will still want big money. Pay that to Murray instead. No one said 7 years, and you don't know he would give a discount either.

Why give away a draft pick for Gordon for only 1 year. He too will want big money after that contact is up, or if renegotiated. We do not need another WR. I know you do not like Williams, but that draft pick can be better used for a need position.

Not against Peterson coming here altogether, but only at the right deal as well as not getting a young stud rb if murray leaves. I just prefer not to. But Gordon and the possibility of him screwing up, no thanks.
Can't make every player get over their past issues. I think this would be a big gamble.


No one in the league is going to sign Peterson to a long term contract. As for his compensation, I think it would be a mistake to think that is all he cares about. He called Jerry saying he wanted to come here. He knows Murray is here, and thought he would do well. What that means I don't know, but I think we should let it play itself out rather than rule it out.

A late draft pick so we don't need to bid on Gordon? Yeah, I'd do it. After his contract is up we can see what the market will pay for him, and go from there. We could also franchise and trade him if there is a market.

We do need another receiver because we need some speed that is reliable. That isn't Williams. That isn't to suggest that I don't like him though.
 

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The Cowboys are more about quality people now days. We don't have time to deal with other peoples troubled children. Gordon isn't even a thought. Considering AP's high performance history, how does he agree to a team friendly deal with the Cowboys if Murray won't agree to one?

No, I don't see this scenario mentioned by the OP ever happening.
 

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No one in the league is going to sign Peterson to a long term contract. As for his compensation, I think it would be a mistake to think that is all he cares about. He called Jerry saying he wanted to come here. He knows Murray is here, and thought he would do well. What that means I don't know, but I think we should let it play itself out rather than rule it out.

A late draft pick so we don't need to bid on Gordon? Yeah, I'd do it. After his contract is up we can see what the market will pay for him, and go from there. We could also franchise and trade him if there is a market.

We do need another receiver because we need some speed that is reliable. That isn't Williams. That isn't to suggest that I don't like him though.

Are there any suspensions that Gordon may be facing coming up? Give them the 7th we get from Baltimore if they would do that. But keep Williams.
If any suspensions looming, no way. I still not prefer it, but you never know with Jerry. Lol
I do agree we need a burner at WR but I'm still happy with Williams. He's made some big plays.

Yes let the Peterson deal,play out. Not worth thinking about it until Vikings relates him, if they do. All a mute point if they don't.
 

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The Cowboys are more about quality people now days. We don't have time to deal with other peoples troubled children. Gordon isn't even a thought. Considering AP's high performance history, how does he agree to a team friendly deal with the Cowboys if Murray won't agree to one?

No, I don't see this scenario mentioned by the OP ever happening.

I can see why AP might agree to a short term deal. He wants to win a championship and he has the tools with this team. He's already gotten paid in the past.

AP and Murray are at two different points in their careers.

AP already got that 1 big contract most players hope for. Murray is hoping to get that now.
 
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