Julius Peppers may become a Cowboy (RUMOR)

[bbgun]

How's your delicate flower doing this evening??

A little itchy, but no complaints. WG's fine, too.

 

[silverbear]

Even if it could be fit under the cap, it pretty much ties up most all of your cash in two positions.

With that new palace Jerry's opening, cash flow isn't likely to be a problem for a year or two or three...

And I'm not convinced there is going to be an uncapped year.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me, cajun... ALL of the analysts I've seen express an opinion on the subject have said that an uncapped 2010 is pretty much inevitable...

The Boys can use that to their advantage if they're shrewd, and Stephen Jones has always struck me as pretty shrewd...

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

yeah Ellis and a third for a dude that might be the best DE in the league. Or atleast the most athletic/hybrid DE in the league.

I can totally see how CAR benefits from this trade.... HAAA

 

[bbgun]

yeah Ellis and a third for a dude that might be the best DE in the league. Or atleast the most athletic/hybrid DE in the league.

I can totally see how CAR benefits from this trade.... HAAA

Funny how these hypothetical trades are always wildly in the Cowboys' favor.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

With that new palace Jerry's opening, cash flow isn't likely to be a problem for a year or two or three...



Sounds like wishful thinking to me, cajun... ALL of the analysts I've seen express an opinion on the subject have said that an uncapped 2010 is pretty much inevitable...

The Boys can use that to their advantage if they're shrewd, and Stephen Jones has always struck me as pretty shrewd...

Well, I was listening to Sirius radio last week and I think it was Pat Kirwin who said he thought something would get done before hand.

 

[TheBiG Z]

I dont think Peppers can be traded. He hasnt signed his francise tender. Not sure though.

 

[jobberone]

Peppers can negotiate a new deal for any amount that satisfies him and his team, whoever that team might be, at any time...

That's my thoughts which would allow the deal to get done but will the league allow a team to franchise someone then renegotiate a new deal then trade someone?

 

[Hostile]

I dont think Peppers can be traded. He hasnt signed his francise tender. Not sure though.

Cris Mortenson just reported that very fact.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Wow, Ellis and a 3rd for Peppers.

HAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!



That would be one of the biggest rape jobs in the history of the league. Noway in hell would Carolina be that freaking dumb.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I dont think Peppers can be traded. He hasnt signed his francise tender. Not sure though.

They can trade his rights or he can sign the contract after the parameters of the deal are in place. It's just a formality.

 

[jobberone]

Wow, Ellis and a 3rd for Peppers.

HAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!



That would be one of the biggest rape jobs in the history of the league. Noway in hell would Carolina be that freaking dumb.

Not sure he can be traded but if they can't pay the guy and have to cut him then getting something for him is better than nothing esp if they could skate past the cap implications (which I don't see happening but I'm just guessing that and going by reports).

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Funny how these hypothetical trades are always wildly in the Cowboys' favor.

yeah another one of those ever clever "well in Madden it said CAR would be interested..."

 

[Beast_from_East]

Not sure he can be traded but if they can't pay the guy and have to cut him then getting something for him is better than nothing esp if they could skate past the cap implications (which I don't see happening but I'm just guessing that and going by reports).

Carolina is not going to just give away one of the best pash rushers in the league for a bag of peanuts, I dont care how much money they are on the hook for.

 

[silverbear]

Sb, where did you get this info? I have not heard that. Do you have a link to that information?

Q. What is the Final Eight Plan?

A. During the uncapped year, the eight clubs that make the divisional playoffs in the previous season have additional restrictions that limit their ability to sign Unrestricted Free Agents from other clubs. In general, the four clubs participating in the Championship Games are limited in the number of free agents that they may sign; the limit is determined by the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs. For the four clubs that lose in the Divisional playoffs, in addition to having the ability to sign free agents based on the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs, they may also sign players based on specific financial parameters.

http://mia.scout.com/2/758534.html

So I got it a LITTLE wrong, too... the final four teams would be under the same restrictions, but teams five through eight would have a little more flexibility... what that flexibility is, I'm not entirely certain, but the point is they'd also face restrictions on how many free agents they can sign...

This was done to prevent the top teams from going out and buying up every free agent they can get their hands on (free agents tend to want to go play for winners, where they have a chance to get themselves a ring)...

Another take on this, from St. Louis Today:

Well, there will be a "Final 8" rule in 2010.

The rule will restrict the final eight teams in the playoffs from signing free agents. The final four teams shall not be permitted to negotiate and sign any unrestricted free agent to a player contract except for players who acquired their status by being cut or were on the final four team when their contract expired. Playoff teams five thru eight get a break to sign one player with a salary of $4,925,000 or more and any number of players with a first-year salary of no more than $3,275,000 and an annual increase of no more than 30 percent in the following years.

There is a mechanism to permit the final eight teams to sign an unrestricted free agent for each one of their own unrestricted free agents who sign with another club as long as they don't spend more than what their own lost player received from his new club.

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6821952

That spells it out in a little more detail... obviously, free agents who are only worth a contract starting at 3.3 mil would be your lesser-quality free agents...

Another problem is that there will be fewer free agents on the market, because it will take six years of service instead of four to become an UFA... one GM was anonymously quoted as saying there could be as much as 170 fewer free agents in next year's market...

The moral to this story is that if you're a good team, free agency in an uncapped season will not be the tremendous opportunity many of us thought it would be... good teams will be limited in how much they can dip into the free agent pool...

That's disappointing, but I think it's good ol' common sense if the league is interested in maintaining competitive balance... we don't want no Noo Yawk Yankmees going out and buying up every decent free agent on the market...

 

[silverbear]

The Chiefs just did it with Matt Cassell. He hasn't signed a new deal yet.

What I'm trying to tell you is that Jerry wouldn't make the trade if there was even a chance he'd have to give Peppers 17 mil this year, or that he'd only be in Dallas for one year... this deal would never happen unless Peppers had already agreed to a new contract...

 

[silverbear]

A little itchy, but no complaints. WG's fine, too.

I'm gonna need your address so that I can send you a bill for a new keyboard...

You're weird, in a real good way... funniest SOB on this board by far...

Even funnier than me...

 

[Cajuncowboy]

http://mia.scout.com/2/758534.html

So I got it a LITTLE wrong, too... the final four teams would be under the same restrictions, but teams five through eight would have a little more flexibility... what that flexibility is, I'm not entirely certain, but the point is they'd also face restrictions on how many free agents they can sign...

This was done to prevent the top teams from going out and buying up every free agent they can get their hands on (free agents tend to want to go play for winners, where they have a chance to get themselves a ring)...

Another take on this, from St. Louis Today:



http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6821952

That spells it out in a little more detail... obviously, free agents who are only worth a contract starting at 3.3 mil would be your lesser-quality free agents...

Another problem is that there will be fewer free agents on the market, because it will take six years of service instead of four to become an UFA... one GM was anonymously quoted as saying there could be as much as 170 fewer free agents in next year's market...

The moral to this story is that if you're a good team, free agency in an uncapped season will not be the tremendous opportunity many of us thought it would be... good teams will be limited in how much they can dip into the free agent pool...

That's disappointing, but I think it's good ol' common sense if the league is interested in maintaining competitive balance... we don't want no Noo Yawk Yankmees going out and buying up every decent free agent on the market...

Got it. Thanks for the info and the links. First I heard of that part of it. I appreciate it.

 

[silverbear]

Funny how these hypothetical trades are always wildly in the Cowboys' favor.

What's strange about that is this speculation is apparently coming from a Carolina radio talking head...

Then again, we have fans EVERYWHERE...

 

[silverbear]

Well, I was listening to Sirius radio last week and I think it was Pat Kirwin who said he thought something would get done before hand.

I'd like it if that proved to be the case... don't even want to live with the POSSIBILITY of no football in 2011...

 

[Cajuncowboy]

What's strange about that is this speculation is apparently coming from a Carolina radio talking head...

Then again, we have fans EVERYWHERE...

Actually the guy I was talking to is a Panthers fan.