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America's Cowboy said:
Cowboys beat the 1-0 Jets (at the time) during Week 2. Destroyed them 30-10 similar to how the Cowboys have destroyed most of their opponents this 2023 season. Totally destroys this "Cowboys have not beaten a single team with a winning record. Not one." false narrative.
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No, it doesn’t.

Refers to current records. Jets not even close to .500.
 
Aven8 said:
All valid points. But all 3 losses on the road. Two of them we didn’t care to show up for. This team is still evolving. It’s very exciting to watch regardless of the opponents we’ve played
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beacamdim said:
Oh it's real as far as a statistic and is why they will be in the playoffs no matter what happens the rest of the way. Full marks for (mostly) taking care of business. But it is based on a VERY easy schedule.

Aren't going to be playing such a lame level of competition come January.

No proof at all yet that they can hang with the big boys.

Not saying they can't, not saying they will.

Just saying we don't know yet until they play the meat of their schedule against a gauntlet of opponents that for the most part the rest of the division has already played.

As the title says, jury is still out.
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They are going to find out, for sure in the next 4 games. I'm already concerned about Seattle first.
 
beacamdim said:
Now let's see how they do against some better competition remaining. Only then will we get a true sense of whether they are a legit contender or not.
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I hate to say this as a guy who believes in the Cowboys chances, but NOTHING they do in the season will show if they are "legit contenders" or not.

Its all about what they do in the playoffs.

The only difference between how I plan to go about the season while others just STRICTLY go by the "oNlY iN tHe PlAyOfFs" crowd is that I choose to enjoy the season as it unfolds. No need to worry about what they can or cannot do in the post-season during the regular season.

The only caveat to that is if/when they officially get eliminated from the playoffs before the playoffs start.

But make no mistake, when the playoff get here, the Cowboys NEED to show up and AT MINIMUM be one of the last 4 teams standing.

Until then, I'm going to enjoy when they win, especially when the beat teams, any team, by 20+ points.

JMHO
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jazzcat22 said:
8-3 is not real?

Last I seen they are tied with several other teams for the 2nd best record in the NFL.
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Including Miami who's the second seed in the AFC with the same record and also not beaten a single team with a winning record in fact there's a lot of teams out there that haven't beat anybody with a winning record if you look at where those teams records are now versus when we actually played them so it's very skewed it's another one of those narratives that only brought up mostly with the Dallas Cowboys but when you see the rest of the league plays very similar teams it's not their record now it's when you played them just like when Miami played Denver they were terrible and now they're above 500 now they're getting credit for beating in above 500 team when at the time they were not and I believe we had a couple teams that early on actually were above 500 but are not now so that's a bunch of crap and the teams we are beating we are absolutely destroying them where is other teams played them tight I mean does that mean anything no but for me it means we're taking care of business where other teams have gotten beaten by lesser teams or they play them really tight and barely beat them in the end

so in short it's another stupid narrative I don't care about this because all it matters is how we play in the playoffs and I still don't believe to this day the things you do in the regular season outside of building some confidence matters once you get to the playoffs when you're 0-0 with everybody else and you know you're one and done you play differently... So let's calm down on these dumb narratives and just get into the playoffs in the best seed that we could get in to help our cause...
 
beacamdim said:
For some reason I am extremely confident that they will smoke Seattle. But then again what do I know.
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Maybe but it is at home so is that a real test I mean we're gonna get that from the media they'll say yeah but we haven't beat anyone good on the road... The goal posts will always be moved for us even though there are several other teams like Miami who have not beaten anyone above 500 if you go back to look at what they were when you played them not what they are now and I believe that would put us in a category on betting some of the teams we played were at 500 or above when we played them earlier in the year...
 
1992. Dallas won 3 games against teams with winning records. Philly, Washington, as they split their series. So 2 losses against winning teams.
Beat KC as well. And the 8-8 Broncos.
All other wins against sub .500 teams.

Lost to the 6-10 Rams.

Everyone said Cowboys weren't ready for the playoffs. As they beat the Eagles, 34-10, then everyone said no way they beat SF. Then everyone said no way they beat Buffalo.
 
jazzcat22 said:
1992. Dallas won 3 games against teams with winning records. Philly, Washington, as they split their series. So 2 losses against winning teams.
Beat KC as well. And the 8-8 Broncos.
All other wins against sub .500 teams.

Lost to the 6-10 Rams.

Everyone said Cowboys weren't ready for the playoffs. As they beat the Eagles, 34-10, then everyone said no way they beat SF. Then everyone said no way they beat Buffalo.
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People are so full of bs. It's obvious that the Cowboys are very good and are one of the best teams in the league.
 
KJJ said:
I can understand losing to San Francisco and Philly, but there was no excuse for what happened against AZ. We would be within striking distance if it wasn’t for that loss.
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Oh, there's excuses, I can list some below:
1. No familiarity with Dobbs, didn't know how he could play.
2. Took the game for granted with no Murray playing.
3. Cowboys weren't as good as they are now.
4. Beat a Giants team 40-0 and got overconfident.

Now I'm not saying any of the above are valid. Just noting that you can always find excuses.

Though you really don't need an excuse, or even a reason, for "what happened against AZ". Losses like that happen to every team. Nothing unusual there.

If it happens several times during one season, that's another thing. But so far Dallas has handily handled (cute, huh?) all other "weak" teams, so I'll write that game off as an aberration....
 
rambo2 said:
People are so full of bs. It's obvious that the Cowboys are very good and are one of the best teams in the league.
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Sure, but that's not good enough for a lot of fans. So you can understand why they say what they do......
 
LACowboysFan1 said:
Oh, there's excuses, I can list some below:
1. No familiarity with Dobbs, didn't know how he could play.
2. Took the game for granted with no Murray playing.
3. Cowboys weren't as good as they are now.
4. Beat a Giants team 40-0 and got overconfident.

Now I'm not saying any of the above are valid. Just noting that you can always find excuses.

Though you really don't need an excuse, or even a reason, for "what happened against AZ". Losses like that happen to every team. Nothing unusual there.

If it happens several times during one season, that's another thing. But so far Dallas has handily handled (cute, huh?) all other "weak" teams, so I'll write that game off as an aberration....
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The big things were the injury to Diggs right before the Arizona game and the officials not going with the obvious interference call in the endzone.
 
jazzcat22 said:
1992. Dallas won 3 games against teams with winning records. Philly, Washington, as they split their series. So 2 losses against winning teams.
Beat KC as well. And the 8-8 Broncos.
All other wins against sub .500 teams.

Lost to the 6-10 Rams.

Everyone said Cowboys weren't ready for the playoffs. As they beat the Eagles, 34-10, then everyone said no way they beat SF. Then everyone said no way they beat Buffalo.
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Then I guess that means that a sixth ring is incoming guaranteed. Everyone can just relax. If it happened before it is sure to happen again.
 
beacamdim said:
Then I guess that means that a sixth ring is incoming guaranteed. Everyone can just relax. If it happened before it is sure to happen again.
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No, but an educated observer can see that this year's team is one of the best in the league and is a contender at this point. It will come down to health and who is playing the best at the end.
 
beacamdim said:
Yes, Boys are 8-3.

But lost in all the division talk is the inconvenient fact that the Cowboys have not beaten a single team with a winning record. Not a one.

That's not their fault - the schedule maker gave them a whole lot of cupcakes the first three months of the season, and they have for the most part walloped the bottom feeders on their schedule, save the horribly damaging failure in AZ.

Now let's see how they do against some better competition remaining. Only then will we get a true sense of whether they are a legit contender or not.

Yes, they played the Eagles tight -- but so what. So did the Commanders, TWICE. And Wash lost to the Giants' backup QBs, TWICE.

And Dallas didn't look like they belonged on the same field with SF, the only other decent team they have played.

I for one am very interested to see whether this team is for real. The next month will be revealing.
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Just an FYI,
Philly is the only division leader to have beat more than 3. Even KC has only beaten one team with a winning record. Not a big deal.
 
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