Just Draft Zeke!

[Swanny]

We weren't good enough in 2014 so I in no way want to replicate the 2014 team

 

[erod]

LOL.

So there isn't a TB in the entire class next year that can run, block and catch?

Seriously, you've gone so far into the Elliott love abyss you can't even see a way to get out now.

Nope. Good gosh, have you seen Henry try to catch the ball? It's like he has flippers.

 

[Sydla]

Are you serious? Dallas offered Murray $6 million a year at the age of 27. Elliott will make $4-5 million a year starting at age 20.

Adrian Peterson $14 million
Marshawn Lynch $12 million
Arian Foster $8.7 million
Lesean McCoy $8 million
Jonathan Stewart $7.3 million
Doug Martin $7.1 million
Jamaal Charles $6.9 million
Lamar Miller $6.5 million
Chris Ivory $6.4 million
Demarco Murray $6.4 million

Ezekiel Elliott $5 million or less

Oh and you are once again stretching the truth. Elliott won't be $5MM or less in average salary.

2014 Watkins at #4 got 4 years, 19.4MM which is just under $5MM per year.

2015 Cooper at #4 got 4 years, 22.7MM which is around 5.7MM.

Assuming the upward trend, Elliott would get around $25MM, which works out to more than $6MM per year.

 

[Sydla]

Nope. Good gosh, have you seen Henry try to catch the ball? It's like he has flippers.

Henry is in this class.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Richard Sherman was a 5th round All Pro. Josh Norman came from no where to All Pro. Tom Brady 5th round all time great. Romo undrafted, franchise record setter. Rod Smith undrafted Pro Bowl Wide -Out. That's it, I'm not wasting a top 5 pick ON ANY POSITION!

Darren McFadden, picked off the scrap heap from Oakland last year that cost Dallas nothing in guaranteed money and rushed for 1100 yards in 11 games he started with no quarterback and no lead receiver....and where in the draft was he drafted again????

 

[slick325]

Actually my contention has been if they take Elliott, the front office continues to prove that they are more helter skelter in their plan to build a team. That they just go off whims and fancies without a real plan in place. They appeared to have one when they started drafting top OL and said that a top OL gives them the luxury of not having to spend a lot of resources on the TB position......... but then a few years later apparently they think they might now need to spend top resources on a TB.

The Tunsil example is poor.

Honestly, I think the team and front office did a little introspection following last season and realized what an elite RB or one having an elite season can do for a team. They shouldn't be admonished for correcting what they possibly see as a mistaken direction. They should be lauded for having the foresight to admit they made a mistake and are willing to do something about it.

We'll all see how the draft turns out soon enough. I just want them to pick a difference maker because that is what a top 5 pick SHOULD bring you. Whether that player is Ramsey, Elliott or Bosa matters little to me. The team (scouts, Will McClay, Jerry and Stephen Jones, the Coaches, et al.) just better be right. Then concentrate on getting a potential starter in Rounds 2 and 3 (hopefully on defense but a potential starter nonetheless).

 

[erod]

Oh and you are once again stretching the truth. Elliott won't be $5MM or less in average salary.

2014 Watkins at #4 got 4 years, 19.4MM which is just under $5MM per year.

2015 Cooper at #4 got 4 years, 22.7MM which is around 5.7MM.

Assuming the upward trend, Elliott would get around $25MM, which works out to more than $6MM per year.

SO WILL BOSA, RAMSEY, TUNSIL, OR ANYONE ELSE!

Geez, dude, what is your point? That's just what the #4 pick gets, and Elliott will have a more immediate and compete impact over those four years than the other guys. That's my point!

I guess we just forfeit the pick?

 

[erod]

Henry is in this class.

Henry is a straight ahead inside runner who lacks acceleration, can't catch the football, doesn't pass protect well, and wasn't used much on 3rd downs at all.

Not saying he can't learn a thing or two, but he's the prime definition of a one-trick pony.

Elliott looks like a guy that can play 8-10 years easily. Henry looks like a 3-5 year guy.

 

[Gameover]

How many teams have used 3 top 6 picks on corners in a 13 year span? And will have done little winning because of it!

They even used an 8th pick on a safety. We haven't won 1 game because of those moves.

Elite skill players singlehandedly win games. For the fist time in forever, can we select the best damn skill player at his position! For Once!

 

[Sydla]

Adrian Peterson - $20MM guaranteed when he signed his deal

Jamal Charles - $8.3MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Lesean McCoy - $26.5MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Jonathon Stewart - $23MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Doug Martin - $15MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Lamar Miller - $14MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Zeke Elliott - approx. $25MM guaranteed on his projected deal

 

[erod]

Adrian Peterson - $20MM guaranteed when he signed his deal

Jamal Charles - $8.3MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Lesean McCoy - $26.5MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Jonathon Stewart - $23MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Doug Martin - $15MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Lamar Miller - $14MM guaranteed on his latest deal

Zeke Elliott - approx. $25MM guaranteed on his projected deal

You're worried about guaranteed money on a 20-year-old running back who is considered the best of his class?

LOL

 

[Gameover]

Darren McFadden, picked off the scrap heap from Oakland last year that cost Dallas nothing in guaranteed money and rushed for 1100 yards in 11 games he started with no quarterback and no lead receiver....and where in the draft was he drafted again????

Who would you rather have in this draft? The pickings are slim up top.

 

[Stash]

That's ridiculous. Elliott is more complete than the 2017 backs. Maybe the class is better next year, but I wouldn't take one of those guys over Elliott.

I don't just want a running back. I want a multi-dimensional running back who doesn't fumble, can pass protect right now, can catch the ball like a receiver, can run inside and outside, has breakaway speed, and is excellent in short yardage.

That's Elliott. And the guy is competitive on the level of Dez Bryant, but with more self-control.

No, what's "ridiculous" is this 'one of a kind', 'greatest back ever' garbage I keep seeing over and over and over.

Ezekiel Elliott is not this 'all time great', 'class by himself' running back.

 

[jazzcat22]

Oh and you are once again stretching the truth. Elliott won't be $5MM or less in average salary.

2014 Watkins at #4 got 4 years, 19.4MM which is just under $5MM per year.

2015 Cooper at #4 got 4 years, 22.7MM which is around 5.7MM.

Assuming the upward trend, Elliott would get around $25MM, which works out to more than $6MM per year.

So pay a Safey $25 million, something the team has not done. They never believed in paying big $$$ to them [which is part of why we haven't had a real good one, yes].
So more likely they pay it to a DE or a RB in Zeke or Bosa.

 

[Stash]

C'mon, man. Running backs are instinctive. They either have it, or they don't. Other than some pass protections and whatnot, there's nothing to learn. Just go.

You missed the point. The case is the same for all running backs, not just your golden boy.

All running backs have these traits, they're not limited to or unique to Ezekiel Elliott.

 

[DTown214]

100% agreed. Just don't think it's gonna happen though. WAAAAY too good to be true. Pick will be Ramsey or Bosa.

 

[Stash]

You're worried about guaranteed money on a 20-year-old running back who is considered the best of his class?

LOL

So was Trent Richardson. He was "the next Adrain Peterson" too. Until he wasn't.

 

[Stash]

LOL.

So there isn't a TB in the entire class next year that can run, block and catch?

Seriously, you've gone so far into the Elliott love abyss you can't even see a way to get out now.

Pretty embarrassing, isn't it?

 

[erod]

No, what's "ridiculous" is this 'one of a kind', 'greatest back ever' garbage I keep seeing over and over and over.

Ezekiel Elliott is not this 'all time great', 'class by himself' running back.

Who said that?

He's a complete back who is built compactly and can play three downs. He's the only one like that in this draft. He is truly elite in that respect.

We'll see if he is in the pros, just like anybody Dallas takes at #4, right?

 

[Sydla]

SO WILL BOSA, RAMSEY, TUNSIL, OR ANYONE ELSE!

Geez, dude, what is your point? That's just what the #4 pick gets, and Elliott will have a more immediate and compete impact over those four years than the other guys. That's my point!

I guess we just forfeit the pick?

Yes, forfeit the pick. Exactly.

Reality is the point has been explained and you just choose to ignore it. But we'll do it again.

Every position carries a value in the NFL. QBs are paid more than kickers, OTs are paid more then OGs, DEs are paid more than MLBs, etc. Within that framework, teams build their salary structures, etc.

The moment Elliott gets picked at 4, he's a top ten paid TB. They take Bosa at 4, for example, he's now like the 35th highest paid edge player in the NFL. You can try to poo poo it but there is value associated with the salaries you pay guys. So if Bosa turns out to be a stud, for example, you have him for 5 years at a mid-level market rate. Elliott is being paid like an elite TB from the start.