News: Kaepernick-Browns trade would give Cowboys

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nope. It says that the ineptness in Cleveland continues. Opens up the draft big
time for Dallas.

Okay lol. We are going to pretend like the Browns haven't been desperate enough in the past to just use all of their 1st round picks on QB's......now that they pass up on the busts they are inept lol. Which they have been but fact is in years past they have had no problem drafting QB's. And they've always settled for what was there rather than pass on anyone. They didn't have the top pick when Luck came out. Or when Cam came out. They have the top picks when the QB's suck lol.

 

[DTown214]

Hopefully we don't take a QB regardless

 

[Cowboy06]

I think you have this backwards man.

It would be smarter for Dallas to go for a backup with experience due to our franchise QB being injury prone and us having a better chance at a playoff run again than Browns. It would be smarter for Browns to get a franchise guy rather than going with a failed QB starter.

I like what you're thinking here, but I would prefer that we build for the long run. I don't like chasing for one or even two years. I would like to set the stage for a 5-10 year run and keep trying to preserve that. I see teams like the Pats, Packers doing that. I know the landscape in the NFL has changed, but I think we can do better and almost not worse...

I think we need a started at QB and a backup (exclude Romo from the equation) I do have to admit I would love for Romo to be like Elway towards the end of his career, but that requires a RB and better right tackle..JMO

 

[KJJ]

Right. Its truly amazing. All of these "experts" said that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft but those same people have QB's being taken in the top 10 with Wentz going at 2nd overall.

Most were all saying this was a weak QB class during the college football season and immediately after it. Now after the Senior bowl and some pro days Wentz has become Andrew luck in the eyes of some. We see it every year where at least one or two QBs emerge into top 10 picks after a few workouts. Mike Mayock said he didn't think all that much of Wentz but his senior bowl and workouts really opened his eyes. Too much stock is put into workouts it's sways teams and they end up getting screwed.

Heard some pro day reports the other day and they talked about how poised some of these QBs looked. Easy to look poised when they're not facing a pass rush and are throwing to receivers that aren't being covered. Bridgewater had a bad pro day and has become a solid starting NFL QB while Manziel had a good pro day and is currently looking for a team.

 

[CWR]

If Browns have a pretty low bar for the QBs they'd draft and even they want to pass on these prospects? Yes, I'd say that's a bit of a red flag. But I don't think the Browns are going to pass on a QB in the first round.

I don't know if it would be a red flag as the Browns haven't had a qb sine Bernie Kosar.

 

[casmith07]

Probably says more about the QB's in this draft if the Browns will pass up one and trade for one.

And Kaepernick at that.

It is Hue Jackson though. He's pretty good with quarterbacks. Excellent job in Cincinnati with AJ McCarron.

I'm surprised they didn't trade for him.

 

[Risen Star]

Its not about talent evaluation. Its about a team desperate for a quarterback and normally would throw a 2nd overall pick at one but this time don't want to.

Yeah, that would be uh talent evaluation.

I don't give a rat's behind what the Cleveland Browns think of this QB class.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

That settles the QB evaluation, Risen Sore, Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher are all now in agreement.

 

[csirl]

Most were all saying this was a weak QB class during the college football season and immediately after it. Now after the Senior bowl and some pro days Wentz has become Andrew luck in the eyes of some. We see it every year where at least one or two QBs emerge into top 10 picks after a few workouts. Mike Mayock said he didn't think all that much of Wentz but his senior bowl and workouts really opened his eyes. Too much stock is put into workouts it's sways teams and they end up getting screwed.

Heard some pro day reports the other day and they talked about how poised some of these QBs looked. Easy to look poised when they're not facing a pass rush and are throwing to receivers that aren't being covered. Bridgewater had a bad pro day and has become a solid starting NFL QB while Manziel had a good pro day and is currently looking for a team.

There is a shortage of NFL starting quality QBs. When (i) someone like Osweiller, who in most eras would be a benchwarming journeyman, is the best QB available and us commanding top dollar and (ii) Cousins is classified as a Franchise Player; then the draft, no matter how thin, starts to look very attractive.

The truth is, the draft is the only option for a team who badly needs a QB. That includes us.

A 50:50 or less chance with Goff or Wentz is better odds than a mediocre Osweiller.

 

[pjtoadie]

There is a shortage of NFL starting quality QBs. When (i) someone like Osweiller, who in most eras would be a benchwarming journeyman, is the best QB available and us commanding top dollar and (ii) Cousins is classified as a Franchise Player; then the draft, no matter how thin, starts to look very attractive.

The truth is, the draft is the only option for a team who badly needs a QB. That includes us.

A 50:50 or less chance with Goff or Wentz is better odds than a mediocre Osweiller.

Bingo!!

 

[plymkr]

The Rams won't even have to trade into the top 5 if they trade Kap to the Browns. Someone may very well fall to them. Especially if the Cowboys pass on QB.

Yeah but it would be nice if both qb's were on the board when we are picking at #4. We could bait LA to trade up and give us a shipment of picks either in this year's draft or next year's draft, or both. I don't think there's a Peyton, Troy or Tom Brady with these 2 top qb's. I'd rather trade down with someone desperate for a qb and get picks then gamble that Romo stays somewhat healthy. This year's QB draft doesn't light a fire under me so If we could be in prime position to draft a QB next year regardless of how our team does, using LA's first rounder, then I'd be extremely happy. I just don't think Goff or Wentz can come in for an injured Romo and win games next year and I am speculative that these 2 guys can be the man for the next ten years. So my vote is swindle a team desperate for a qb and look to draft the franchise QB next year.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Doesn't change a thing. Dallas isn't taking a qb at 4.

 

[LatinMind]

Hope I can put this here...
Kaepernick-Browns trade would give Cowboys, NFL Draft altered timeline

http://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/201...ould-give-cowboys-nfl-draft-altered-timeline/
The thought behind the term “butterfly effect” is essentially that one small change in one thing can create ripples that reach out and drastically change the previous paths of several other things. If the Cleveland Browns and San Francisco 49ers agree to a rumored deal that would send QB Colin Kaepernick to the AFC, that would be one impactful butterfly.

People could be headed out towards an anticipated destiny, and then, if juuust the right thing happened a million miles away, a chain of events could ensue that knocks a seemingly unrelated person into an entirely new path. Butterfly wings flaps can cause hurricanes on the other side of the world.

Cleveland currently has the second pick in this April’s draft in Chicago. With a new coach in Hue Jackson, recently releasing Johnny Manziel and an extended history of misery at the position, most observers have felt it a sure thing Cleveland would take the quarterback of their choice with that pick.

I dont get why people just dont believe Jerry when he says no QB at 4. He's not blowing smoke, hes told people what he would do in recent drafts and thats exactly what they did. Dallas is one of the very last honest organizations. It works against them alot of times. I think right now this team is going Ramsey, DE or trade down.

 

[Nightman]

I think it is funny that CLE wants to trade for Kap, possibly a 3rd and they want him to be their starter but then they say he needs to take a pay cut.

 

[rynochop]

Probably means we're looking at '83 QB draft.

Probably.ha. Heard some radio show Friday talking about how agents and other team officials say this new Cleveland front office is absolutely clueless in the day to day workings of the NFL.

 

[AzorAhai]

I dont get why people just dont believe Jerry when he says no QB at 4. He's not blowing smoke, hes told people what he would do in recent drafts and thats exactly what they did. Dallas is one of the very last honest organizations. It works against them alot of times. I think right now this team is going Ramsey, DE or trade down.

If Cowboys are very honest as you say then why do Jerry and Stephen's comments directly contradict each other? You key in on what Jerry said, but ignore Stephen? Convenient.

 

[LatinMind]

If Cowboys are very honest as you say then why do Jerry and Stephen's comments directly contradict each other? You key in on what Jerry said, but ignore Stephen? Convenient.

Stephen can say all he wants but he makes no personel decisions. Jerry has said this in the past. Stephens primary job is to negotiate contracts. Get to know the team you root for and you save urself the headaches of who not to listen to.

 

[pjtoadie]

Doesn't change a thing. Dallas isn't taking a qb at 4.

Not saying they will but no one knows but the team on what they're going to do. Stephen said it's a possibility. It's pretty silly on your part to be 100% sure when the draft isn't even here yet. Anything can happen. I'm not going to hold my breath for a QB at #4 but I'm not going to say there's no way it can't happen.

 

[pjtoadie]

Stephen can say all he wants but he makes no personel decisions. Jerry has said this in the past. Stephens primary job is to negotiate contracts. Get to know the team you root for and you save urself the headaches of who not to listen to.

Then how do you explain everyone talking Jerry out of drafting Manziel? Obviously Stephen and company have some sort of say. You just have an agenda about the Cowboys not taking a QB at #4.

 

[LatinMind]

Then how do you explain everyone talking Jerry out of drafting Manziel? Obviously Stephen and company have some sort of say. You just have an agenda about the Cowboys not taking a QB at #4.

Well when the whole organization says no, you run with it. Just like when Parcells was running everything and he didnt want Ware, he got out numbered. The person who has the biggest voice with Jerry is and has been McClay for the past few yrs.