Keith Brooking stands up to Steve Dennis

[daschoo]

no just using french as a description for spineless cowards you don't like.

So it wasn't racist, but now it is again?

No, it wasn't. It was a joke about surrender. Jim Rome's callers use that joke on a daily basis. Stand up comedians tell jokes about the French giving up all the time. Nothing more, nothing less.

i would have thought that the sarcasm in my quote was pretty apparant.

ah well if everyone else chooses to make jokes based on nationality i guess that makes it ok? its within the last 40 years or so that jokes about black or asian people were mainstream, by your argument they were fine because stand up comedians were telling jokes about them "all the time." if you want to believe that its not racist because its the french you're joking about thats up to you i guess.

anyway its encouraging to see the players getting fired up, hopefully they take that emotion onto the field.

 

[adbutcher]

Le Capitaine of the Cowboys Realist Army Platoon CRAP

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[dadymat]

7-17. That's where the Commanders and Raiders are at combined. Those are the kinds of teams the Cowboys have feasted on. It doesn't impress me to see them win games like that because that's what they do.

Atlanta is also a paper tiger. Outside of the Georgia Dome, they're not worth talking about.

We know the Cowboys can fry the small potatoes, there just aren't many left to put in the fryer. That's the thing that's alarming about the Cowboys losing to the Giants is because they failed to come up big against a quality opponent yet again and they have how many of those left on the schedule?

Philly is the only quality win the Cowboys have through 13 weeks of football and let's be fair. The Cowboys probably come up short again without THE SPOT.

oh geez.......only Eagles fans believe that crap.....with the still pics it is indisputable .....to people who can see

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Did anything change since 2008? Yes problem players were let go people who caused problems were let go despite the fact some of those players where key player on the team and yes that sends a message of if they are willing to eat 9 million and cut that player I could be next and if I’m not willing to tow the line I’m out of there so yes the fact of losing your job on the team does have a real affect and does show some accountability to the rest of the team. Accountability has nothing to do with the fans they are not accountable to you or me they are accountable to the organization and their teammates

Funny the only ones who dispute what Brooking is saying as well as what the Charger players have been saying about Wade is fans and media who are not there and do not know.

You have your personal view which of course you are entitled to but you do not play on the team you are not there so tell me why should what you perceive matter more than what the players who are there day in and day out and know what the real deal is has to say

You may want to tone down the condescension and jump off that high horse.

This is a message board and everyone here is just giving their take on the current state of the team.

Nobody is saying that their argument is the best and that the team should take it their advice.

Geebus!!!

 

[Monster Heel]

In oaklands last 3 games, they are 2-1. They beat cincy, lost to dallas and won at pittsburgh. Thats pretty good.

We got washingtons best shot and held them off at the end. they have been playing well over the last month.

Atlanta was 4-1 with their qb and running back healthy when they roled in here. The team atlanta is fielding right now is not the same team that was healthy and on a high when we beat them.

We lost to the giants, It sucks. A win over San Diego could be huge. Almost as big as beating NY.

this notion that we havent beat anyone is goofy. Philly has beat the same teams as us, and we beat them, but I bet you would act like they are some incredible franchise.

The thing is the Cowboys don't get the benefit of the doubt. The Eagles have proven time and time again, they will win when they have to. For the Cowboys to lose this game, it just sends the message to me that nothing has changed and the collapse is impending like I've suspected from the word go.

And the Steelers aren't a really good team to cite as an example of who's crapping the bed too. They look like they're about in the same position as the Cowboys, about to miss the playoffs.

 

[adbutcher]

I think he handles them pretty well. They ask stupid questions, he gives them stupid answers and they get offended.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Why does it matter what Wade says to the press? Fans do not play for this team the media does not play for this team the players do they are what matter not fans or media perception. What takes place at Valley Ranch is between Wade and his players.

I have heard non-sense over and over that players do not respect him and that is BS. In the end it will still come down to this team winning and doing good in post season for Wade to keep his job but what some perceive and what is reality is not always one and the same.

Wade is not going to rant and rave and he is not going to throw players under the bus he will take the heat in order to avoid throwing players under the bus however that does not mean when he is confronting the players himself that he is not holding them accountable to the team.

Wrong, it does matter, think about this, the way wade answers the media is the way he generally approaches the players, soft, everything is ok and dont worry. That is totally wrong to take the heat for the players! Totally!

Players have to be accountable as well as the coaches. Just like Jerry Jones said yesterday, it may be on the offensive line coach that tecnique, practice time was spent as much as it should have due to poor execution by the offensive line. All have to be accountable, Jerry Jones, Wade, Jason Garrett, other coaches and the players.

If you dont, then what in the heck changes, Nothing! We were promised at the end of the year, changes needed to be taken and wade said it started with him. Now you hear newman saying coaches arent being held accountable and you hear a player say SOS, same old thing.

Why should the players change if wade doenst make them accountable. Let me point something out to you that backs up with what I am saying. WE all saw how crayton was fumbling on punt returns and losing some fumbles in the game at wr. Wade didnt want to, but from what I hear, was jerry jones and Coach D that said we need another punt returner, so we went out and got Rossum. Rossum came in and worked with crayton. Crayton even said he helped him, even ware said rossum helped him too. Crayton then got a new attitude for being demoted as number 2 wr and the punt returner, when he got another chance to redeem himself, what happened, We saw postiive results, a player that player with alittle more concentration, and dedication.

Now, with the kicker situation, this has been going on since first missed field goal, with folk missing what 10 field goals this year, way to much. Each time though wade said wasnt a problem, but when forced to, now wade admits is a problem and has to be fixed. Why wasnt that done in the 1st or 2nd month?

Answer, wade went back to his old ways of coaching, everything is all right, players got back into their funk, etc and we started losing some games. The head coach has to keep his foot on the players necks and get on them as well as himself when things arent working. With fixing things before we lose a game or two.

Again, their is no accountability with wade again.

 

[rcaldw]

I didn't question anyone's fanhood. Did I?

What are the French known for? Surrender.

If you felt some guilt or a finger pointing at you that isn't my fault. I named no one.

Hos, I enjoy a lot of your posts, but you do this a lot. You throw out a clear barb, and then when people recognize that you did it, you plead innocent and put the onus on them.

I completely understand what you mean when you talk about the 1st quarter whiners.... I have followed some of the game threads and the constant whining and emotional venting gets old quickly.... but I also get tired of another kind of response, and that is vilifying anyone who DARES to say what is true about this team.

THIS TEAM HAS BEEN HORRIBLE IN DECEMBER. That is true. That isn't Steve Dennis' fault or any fan's fault, that is the Dallas Cowboys fault.

I get tired of hearing Tony Romo and others say that it has no meaning. IT DOES HAVE MEANING. That doesn't mean you can't change it. PLEASE CHANGE IT. A bunch of us will be jumping up and down with delight when they change it.

But denial doesn't encourage anyone.

I listened to the press conference. I thought some of the questions were stupid, but I also was glad to see Wade's feet held to the fire. I hope more of them do it. If that is what it takes to light a fire under this team, then ask all the stupid questions you can ask.

 

[casmith07]

I wish some of our fans had his heart.

This.

 

[rcaldw]

You can be sure of this. No matter how much anyone gets fired up, that is going to last for about half of the 1st quarter, and then we are going to settle into a football game. If Dallas isn't better prepared than the Chargers, and if they aren't the better team, then emotion isn't going to save them.

I still remember the 1995 NFC Championship game, and how fired up the Packers were (they were in all those 90's matchups). Reggie White glaring and yelling and all the rest. Several almost fights. In the end, the better team won. Dallas.

 

[Hostile]

I just got a chance to watch the video. Steve Dennis was definately sweating LOL. Thanks for the video.

However, I know it is not popular but I have to disagree with Keith Brookings about his claim that former Decembers don't matter.

The past, especially if you have had great success and fantastic failures always has some type of effect on your current mental state.

If you have tanked the last few Decembers, is there any question that at least some of the players are going to start to get defensive and worried when December comes around because fans and the media keep harping on it.

It's just like when great players are told they cannot win the big one. I believe those players hear those criticisms and I think it can have an effect on their mental state.

I will stand with Brooking on that. They absolutely do not matter and no team would tell you differently regardless of how they play in December. All that matters is how prepared you are when the kickoff sails.

 

[Hostile]

7-17. That's where the Commanders and Raiders are at combined. Those are the kinds of teams the Cowboys have feasted on. It doesn't impress me to see them win games like that because that's what they do.

Atlanta is also a paper tiger. Outside of the Georgia Dome, they're not worth talking about.

We know the Cowboys can fry the small potatoes, there just aren't many left to put in the fryer. That's the thing that's alarming about the Cowboys losing to the Giants is because they failed to come up big against a quality opponent yet again and they have how many of those left on the schedule?

Philly is the only quality win the Cowboys have through 13 weeks of football and let's be fair. The Cowboys probably come up short again without THE SPOT.

The most amazing thing to me about this whole thing is what you said in bold. Before the game you were saying beating the Giants would reveal nothing because they are a shell. Now because we lost they are a quality opponent.

I gotta know, does it hurt talking out of both sides of your mouth like that?

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Interesting opinion.

I guess you missed the part where the raiders couldnt do anything against us and we kicked their tails, yet they beat cincy, philly and Pittsburgh.

Or perhaps you missed the Commanders game where they made it to the redzone 1 time and scored 6 points. Compare that to the other 4 games the skins have played since atlanta and well...one of these things is not like the other.

Same with the atlanta and philly games.

It hurts losing to NY, worse than any other team, but its just one game.

if we finish 8-8 or 9-7 then yeah they quit for some reason. But right now you cant say that.

We have some weak wristed individuals who would either faint when the going gets tough or live to tell the story afterward.

I want people with me who will stand back to back with me when I need them. Some of our fans rather applaud the enemy then stand up for those who they suppose to support, it is sickening.

I strongly suspect that we have a contingency of Commander, iggles, gent fans posing as Cowboy fans here. I listen to Sirius a lot and I never here other team fans calling in to rip on a team with a winning record, only the Cowboy fans that call in seems to have that problem.

Good stuff, you two.

 

[Alexander]

I don't get how this is a players versus the media.

This isn't about the mean media. Frankly, their opinion counts for nothing.

It doesn't validate anything. If they are obsessing about some reporter picking on them, making up rumors etc., they are wasting their time.

What matters is the player's attitudes towards themselves and their situation.

The only thing that really bothers me is that I honestly see more defiance out of Phillips and the players to the media than there is to the opponents on the field. When is the last time we went out and took out frustration on a quality opponent? We act more like victims than anything. Victims of media attacks intended to divide them, victims of "fluke" plays, victims of injuries. That's where the accountability slant comes from. There is just too much denial, starting at the top of the organization. It even spreads down the fanbase who is still trying to convince themselves that everything is okay.

It isn't okay. We are repeating the same pattern again, right down to sparring with the media like it matters. It doesn't.

As much as they say they don't believe a curse, it seems they spend a lot of time defending themselves against the bogeyman. What they have to do is avoid defeating themselves by bracing for what might be inevitable. I just don't see any tangible actions from the management of this team that is addressing it. Sorry, I can't assume they are until we see results otherwise.

The passive-aggressive behavior is what manifests itself nearly each year around this time, from the staff to the players. That is the problem. Not the "distraction" caused by the media. If we don't have a sports psychologist on the payroll, we need one.

 

[Hostile]

i would have thought that the sarcasm in my quote was pretty apparant.

ah well if everyone else chooses to make jokes based on nationality i guess that makes it ok? its within the last 40 years or so that jokes about black or asian people were mainstream, by your argument they were fine because stand up comedians were telling jokes about them "all the time." if you want to believe that its not racist because its the french you're joking about thats up to you i guess.

anyway its encouraging to see the players getting fired up, hopefully they take that emotion onto the field.

No, the unfounded accusation was apparent. I still don't see the sarcasm.

I am nowhere near a racist. Take it to PMs if you want proof of this.

 

[rcaldw]

I don't get how this is a players versus the media.

This isn't about the mean media. Frankly, their opinion counts for nothing.

It doesn't validate anything. If they are obsessing about some reporter picking on them, making up rumors etc., they are wasting their time.

What matters is the player's attitudes towards themselves and their situation.

The only thing that really bothers me is that I honestly see more defiance out of Phillips and the players to the media than there is to the opponents on the field. When is the last time we went out and took out frustration on an opponent? We act more like victims than anything. Victims of media attacks intended to divide them, victims of "fluke" plays, victims of injuries. That's where the accountability slant comes from. There is just too much denial, starting at the top of the organization. It even spreads down the fanbase who is still trying to convince themselves that everything is okay.

It isn't okay. We are repeating the same pattern again. What they have to do is avoid defeating themselves by bracing for what might be inevitable. I just don't see any tangible actions from the management of this team that is addressing it. Sorry, I can't assume they are until we see results otherwise. Even the reaction after this loss seemed to be Greg Ellis-like in that the Eeyore black cloud is back.

The passive-aggressive behavior is what manifests itself nearly each year around this time, from the staff to the players. That is the problem. Not the "distraction" caused by the media. If we don't have a sports psychologist on the payroll, we need one.

You are spot on, on this one, Alexander. I agree with you.

 

[Doomsday101]

Wrong, it does matter, think about this, the way wade answers the media is the way he generally approaches the players, soft, everything is ok and dont worry. That is totally wrong to take the heat for the players! Totally!

Players have to be accountable as well as the coaches. Just like Jerry Jones said yesterday, it may be on the offensive line coach that tecnique, practice time was spent as much as it should have due to poor execution by the offensive line. All have to be accountable, Jerry Jones, Wade, Jason Garrett, other coaches and the players.

If you dont, then what in the heck changes, Nothing! We were promised at the end of the year, changes needed to be taken and wade said it started with him. Now you hear newman saying coaches arent being held accountable and you hear a player say SOS, same old thing.

Why should the players change if wade doenst make them accountable. Let me point something out to you that backs up with what I am saying. WE all saw how crayton was fumbling on punt returns and losing some fumbles in the game at wr. Wade didnt want to, but from what I hear, was jerry jones and Coach D that said we need another punt returner, so we went out and got Rossum. Rossum came in and worked with crayton. Crayton even said he helped him, even ware said rossum helped him too. Crayton then got a new attitude for being demoted as number 2 wr and the punt returner, when he got another chance to redeem himself, what happened, We saw postiive results, a player that player with alittle more concentration, and dedication.

Now, with the kicker situation, this has been going on since first missed field goal, with folk missing what 10 field goals this year, way to much. Each time though wade said wasnt a problem, but when forced to, now wade admits is a problem and has to be fixed. Why wasnt that done in the 1st or 2nd month?

Answer, wade went back to his old ways of coaching, everything is all right, players got back into their funk, etc and we started losing some games. The head coach has to keep his foot on the players necks and get on them as well as himself when things arent working. With fixing things before we lose a game or two.

Again, their is no accountability with wade again.

BS how he deals with the players is what matters not what he has to say to you or the media you don't play on the team you have nothing to do with the team the players do and evidently they say different than all the BS that has been said about Wade.

You have your own perception that does not mean one single thing; they know you only guess, who do you think I will trust when it comes to that? Someone on the outside that has no bearing on the game what so ever or the men inside that locker room?

You want to hear Wade say something that makes you feel good great but again you don't play on the team period.

As for Accountability again Brooking said there is you say there is not, let’s see Brooking is there you are not so again tell me whose word really matters his or yours?

People have their own views that is fine but don't kid yourself of thinking you know what is going on at Valley Ranch you don't, no more than I do but the players do know and it is a joke for fans to sit there and act as if they know all of what takes place when they don't

 

[Hostile]

Hos, I enjoy a lot of your posts, but you do this a lot. You throw out a clear barb, and then when people recognize that you did it, you plead innocent and put the onus on them.

I completely understand what you mean when you talk about the 1st quarter whiners.... I have followed some of the game threads and the constant whining and emotional venting gets old quickly.... but I also get tired of another kind of response, and that is vilifying anyone who DARES to say what is true about this team.

THIS TEAM HAS BEEN HORRIBLE IN DECEMBER. That is true. That isn't Steve Dennis' fault or any fan's fault, that is the Dallas Cowboys fault.

I get tired of hearing Tony Romo and others say that it has no meaning. IT DOES HAVE MEANING. That doesn't mean you can't change it. PLEASE CHANGE IT. A bunch of us will be jumping up and down with delight when they change it.

But denial doesn't encourage anyone.

I listened to the press conference. I thought some of the questions were stupid, but I also was glad to see Wade's feet held to the fire. I hope more of them do it. If that is what it takes to light a fire under this team, then ask all the stupid questions you can ask.

I won't deny it is a barb. I didn't direct it at anyone. If they want to confess, that isn't on me.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Good for Brooking. I'm hoping that rallies this team around the coach and him for standing up for Wade. I like that.

 

[daschoo]

I will stand with Brooking on that. They absolutely do not matter and no team would tell you differently regardless of how they play in December. All that matters is how prepared you are when the kickoff sails.

i can see that argument but realistically it is going to have an impact. the players are being reminded of the december record what must feel like every waking moment so its going to be in their heads. if and when they go behind they're going to start believing that they're beaten. in my opinion the fear of defeat and the pressure they are putting on themselves plays a big role in our chances this month.