Kellen Moore wanted out of Dallas

MountaineerCowboy

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Prove that I lost a bet.

No, i don't feel the same about Mahomes the way I did, he proved he improved as an actual qb.
He didn't prove nothing.

He was already a champion and MVP when you believed Dak was better than him.

Bet me again. Loser leaves town this time. It's easy to bet with nothing on the line.

How much do you really believe in Dak? Let's find out.
 

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It wasn't Dak that was hurting Moore's career. It was Jerry Jones and having to submit to his amateurish whims when it came to gameplanning and playcalling.

If you don't think that Jerry Jones influences both then you have vastly underrated the selfish and arrogant perception he has of himself.
 

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why dak doesn't take this same mentality, he needs a new start somewhere else as he is getting old, and if he finishes the 2 years in dallas without achieving anything, no one will want him, Dak, please leave, you need a new start.
 

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Sure hope the part about keeping the same offense is not confirmed and is false.
The overall system is fine it is the gameday concepts that were outdated. Changing up route combinations and the audibles of the formation are key. There was too much of the Garrett/Linehan vestigial concepts still present.
 

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He didn't prove nothing.

He was already a champion and MVP when you believed Dak was better than him.

Bet me again. Loser leaves town this time. It's easy to bet with nothing on the line.

How much do you really believe in Dak? Let's find out.
SO you can't prove I lost a bet but you want me to bet again?

With integrity like this, I certainly would not put up my account of decades vs yours.
 

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The Cowboys were 7th in rushing yards and 2nd in rushing TDs last season.

Only Dak over Dallas fans would try and give Dak all the credit for PPG.
See, this is what you and the Dak haters just don't seem to comprehend - at NO POINT did I say Dak was responsible for ALL those points. NEVER!!!!! But, what I've been able to do is figure that multiple things CAN be true at the same time:
  • Kellen IS a good OC with deficiencies
  • Dak IS a good but not GREAT QB that needs more help than the great to Elite QB's
  • Kellen's offense DID perform at a higher level with Dak at QB vs. any other QB Dallas has played since 2019 (Rush won when he didn't turn the ball over & because the D was lights out)
  • Dak OBVIOUSLY hasn't learned anything new with Kellen as his OC
ALL OF THESE THINGS can be true. But, in the hater world, Dak is the ONLY thing wrong with this team. And, I was one of the people that said Dak ABSOLUTELY lost the SF game. But, if he sucks SOOOO BAD like the haters say, he shouldn't have had any success in this league. But, he has (even if it's against lesser teams). BAD QB's suck against EVERYONE.
 

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why dak doesn't take this same mentality, he needs a new start somewhere else as he is getting old, and if he finishes the 2 years in dallas without achieving anything, no one will want him, Dak, please leave, you need a new start.
I actually agree.

Dak leaving would be nice but who else would do our dumb contract we did?
 

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SO you can't prove I lost a bet but you want me to bet again?

With integrity like this, I certainly would not put up my account of decades vs yours.
The proof that you lost the bet is that numbers between Dak and Mahomes.

In the categories that you picked yourself did Dak win a single one of them?

You don't really believe it Dak, so just know, whenever you decide to chirp at me for my opinion I will offer up this bet to you so everyone can see you turn it on because of your fake belief in Dak.
 

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I thought that was obvious with the way things played out with the Chargers.

Moore wants to be a HC and he knew Dak was ruining those chances for him.

I said weeks ago that if Moore was smart he would make a lateral move and that's just what he did.

Good for him.
If Moore was smart we would have ran the ball on 2nd and 2 before the half.
 

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The proof that you lost the bet is that numbers between Dak and Mahomes.

In the categories that you picked yourself did Dak win a single one of them?

You don't really believe it Dak, so just know, whenever you decide to chirp at me for my opinion I will offer up this bet to you so everyone can see you turn it on because of your fake belief in Dak.
No prove the parameters of the bet...go ahead. I know i can.
 

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You Dak haters need to go to my link and watch the 2 videos posted. Those ex-professional players are saying much differently than what is being professed here. They explain exactly what was wrong in Dallas and why Kellen Moore is no longer here.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/this-failed-2022-season-was-much-more-than-dak.507743/
What Dave Carr said is what me and few others here have been complaining about for over 12 years. The routes are easy for the defenses to cover. The scheme that does nothing to stress the defense which puts your QB/offense at a disadvantage.
 

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Bobby Belt said the same thing on the radio. That he definitely wanted out and that he might have been fed up with take the brunt of the criticism.
I’ll take Bill Parcells’ words over Bobby Belt.
 

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The fact Jerryy allowed it with one year left on the contract is interesting.
Not really.......Look, Kellen only had 1 year left on his contract. Unless Jerry was willing to extend him another 2 years, it's no surprise he'd wanna seek another OC job ( especially with so many avail ) for a fresh start AND security for his family. I actually saw this coming a while back doing one of his pressers. He was asked about interviewing for other coaching jobs during the playoffs and answered those will take care of themselves.

Bottom line .......I do believe it was mutual ........both were ready for a fresh start.

Posters trying to say left coz of Dak........that's a long reach, stop.
 

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There were plenty of expiring contracts, but what is clear is, if Jerry fired Moore, he would still owe him money for his final year. The fact that the Chargers requested an interview a week prior to even announcing his hire, while Moore has connections to Herbert and LVE through some commercials in Idaho seems to support this position. This request by the Chargers also PRECEDED Dallas announcing it won't renew any expiring contracts, including Joe Philbin. Coupled with the fact, as @NotForLong pointed out, Jerry owns the rights to box seats for the Chargers, it all points to a move on Kellen Moore' part.

It is also being reported that MM is not changing the offense, but will call plays. Since Prescott is too expensive to move this next year, maybe Jerry doesn't really have high expectations this season.
Putting it ALL in MM lap, as it should be. He's an Offensive minded coach, so if they don't win it all or conference game I do think MM is out!
 
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