Kobe: We'd beat Dream Team

Bird wasnt in his athletic prime, then.

But he wasn't nearly like Duncan and Garnett, either. Read the stories about the Dream Team practices in regards to Bird. He clearly had game.
 
casmith07;4617362 said:
They wouldn't. They'd get run out of the gym by guys like LeBron, Durant, Westbrook, Harden, CP3, Blake Griffin.

please, in that quote that you responded too, it says magic, bird, etc. the etc. consists of pippen, jordan, drexler, robinson, ewing, malone, stockton, and barkley, all guys that were 30 years old or younger, all some of the greatest athletes the world has ever seen, and you are telling me these guys are going to beat them with pure athleticism? i think anyone that thinks the dream team would lose to this collection needs to go back and watch games of those players, they werent the george mikan lakers, they are big, strong, fast, athletic human beings, with INSANE basketball skill, none of the guys you mentioned fit that bill except lebron. and how can anyone say that magic johnson couldnt run with them? did you guys even watch the showtime lakers? magic was 32 or 33 years old in 92, thats younger than kobe! and he is too slow or too old? if he didnt get HIV that guy would have played into his late 30s or early 40s!

the only ones that couldnt keep up were bird, laettner and maybe mullen, but its 5 on 5 not 9 on 9. these guys dont have the paint patrolling big men to contend with anymore either, there is only one of those in the entire league, that team had 2 of them, they would have to beat their man, and then robinson or ewing at the rim, EVERY TIME! and its not NBA rules, where now a days these guys get away with 3 or 4 steps and "crab" steps like crazy, the FIBA refs would call that crap all day.

there is no way this team would be within 15 points of the 92 team, much less win.
 
If any of you have not yet seen the ESPN documentary on the Dream Team, you really MUST see it.

It is incredible with all the stories of the practices, rivalries and new friendships.

* One of the great, lasting friendships to come out if was between Bird and Patrick Ewing.

* Of course Barkley was hilarious....and very good. lol He was the pied piper of Barcelona if some of you recall.

*The key rivalries were naturally Magic and Jordan and Malone and Barkley.

* The first scrimmage by the dream team was vs a bunch a very good college stars. They lost. It turns out that Check Daley threw the game by making no adjstments and hardly playing Jordan at all. Bobby Hurley shredded the perimeter defense and Chris Webber played great....but it was a thrown. This got the Dream Teams attention and the next time they played these same guys right before the Pan Am games, they beat them "by about 100pts". lol Obviously, Jordan (one of the world's best defenders) totally shut down the perimeter along with the other great (better?) defender...Pippen.

* They would later do the same vs Crotia and it's star Tony Kukoc. haha

* Laettner was the water boy basically. They put one college guy on the team just as a token.

* Right before the Olympics began Magic (who still assumed he was the best ever) had a team vs Jordan--which was normal. He was lighting it up and jawing alot. Anyway, that got the flames going with Jordan--who had deferred the captain duties to Bird and Magic. He, according to Bird and Brakley, so throroughly dominated Magic that the topic was never raised again.

* Many more great stories!

Check it out sometime.
 
JackWagon;4616745 said:
PG - Magic Johnson / John Stockton
SG - Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
SF - Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen / Chris Mullin
PF - Charles Barkley / Karl Malone
C - David Robinson /Patrick Ewing

Spare - Christian Laettner

Kobe might replace Clyde on that team ... thats about it. 1992 Dream Team is argueably the greatest team ever assembled.

There, fixed it. First, you spelled Robinson's name wrong, and then you mistakenly put him behind Ewing, when he is clearly superior.

BTW, get rid of Laettner and put either Isiah Thomas or Nique Wilkins.....
 
ABQCOWBOY;4617081 said:
I would probably go something like this:

PG - Magic Johnson, Gary Payton
SG - Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,
SF - Larry Bird, Elgin Baylor, Scottie Pippen
PF - Tim Ducan, Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone
C - Kareem Abdul Jabar, Hakeem Olijuwan

Reasoning:

Magic - Because he's Magic. Payton - Not only a great outside shooter but a great rebounder, assist man and the best defensive PG ever IMO.
MJ - Because he's MJ. Bryant - The closest thing anybody has ever seen to MJ at the 2 guard. Some say that he might be better (but I don't agree). Bird - No athletic ability at all but simply the best shooter I've ever seen. Maybe the smartest player I've ever seen. Baylor - He could do it all. Shoot the ball, rebound, play defense, pass, run the floor and create off the dribble. Best all around SF in the history of the game IMO. Pippen - A great player, could run the floor and finish, could rebound and pass but he's here because he is probably the best Defensive SF worthy of being here. (Actually, I thought James Worthy was more dangerous but not as good defensively and we needed defense more then we needed the rest). Duncan - Do it all PF that could play the post as well. Highly intelligent player and money when the game is on the line. Garnett - Defensive, Rebounding fool that can also give you offense in the post. He's the stopper at PF. Malone - He's the Mailman. He matches up with the smaller, more mobile PF you often see. Plus, Rain or Shine, he gets it done on the offensive side of the court. Kareem - Unstoppable offensively, dominating defensively plus he could pass as well as any big man ever and he could shoot FTs at crunch time. Unstoppable in post. Olijuwan - Mobile, shoot blocking, rebounding machine that could run the floor and finish. Also had an unstoppable turnaround jumper from anywhere on the court. The best true defensive Center I've ever seen. Better then Ewing and better then Russell IMO.

Not everybody on this list might be considered the best at their respective positions but for every position, I included somebody who did have an exceptional game but was the best defensive player at their position as well. I sacrificed offense for defense in some situations basically.


It's Olajuwon.....and if you are going to put any Center on the Olympics it is Robinson....btw, Give me Robinson and Olajuwon together starting. No team would be able to score in the low post and with players able to touch the ball on the rim and not get called for goaltending....those two would be blocking so many shots. It would be insane. Of course, you also start Magic, Jordan, and Bird.

PG - Magic
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Robinson
C - Olajuwon

OWNAGE!!!
 
JackWagon;4616745 said:
PG - Magic Johnson / John Stockton
SG - Michael Jordan / Clyde Drexler
SF - Larry Bird / Scottie Pippen / Chris Mullin
PF - Charles Barkley / Karl Malone
C - Patrick Ewing / David Ronbinson

Spare - Christian Laettner

Kobe might replace Clyde on that team ... thats about it. 1992 Dream Team is argueably the greatest team ever assembled.

Bird was there on reputation only. He retired from the NBA after the 92' season and barely played due to health reasons. LeBron James would easily start for this team if it were to be based purely on skill. Not to mention Durant >>>>>>> Mullin.

Yes the 92' team is way better, but it's more than Kobe who would make that team.

Not that he was important, but both Love and Griffen would make it over Christian Lattner
 
Manwiththeplan;4617460 said:
Not that he was important, but both Love and Griffen would make it over Christian Lattner
There were 50 (more) players in the NBA at the time who would make it over Laettner. He was the water boy.
He was there because they wanted one college player--it was the first year to have NBA players.

Of course LeBron would make any all-star team in any generation. Mullin was older at the time but his pure shooter skills did have a place in that rotation. But obviously he could not touch a talent like LeBron or Kobe.
 
DFWJC;4617420 said:
If any of you have not yet seen the ESPN documentary on the Dream Team, you really MUST see it.

It is incredible with all the stories of the practices, rivalries and new friendships.

* One of the great, lasting friendships to come out if was between Bird and Patrick Ewing.

* Of course Barkley was hilarious....and very good. lol He was the pied piper of Barcelona if some of you recall.

*The key rivalries were naturally Magic and Jordan and Malone and Barkley.

* The first scrimmage by the dream team was vs a bunch a very good college stars. They lost. It turns out that Check Daley threw the game by making no adjstments and hardly playing Jordan at all. Bobby Hurley shredded the perimeter defense and Chris Webber played great....but it was a thrown. This got the Dream Teams attention and the next time they played these same guys right before the Pan Am games, they beat them "by about 100pts". lol Obviously, Jordan (one of the world's best defenders) totally shut down the perimeter along with the other great (better?) defender...Pippen.

* They would later do the same vs Crotia and it's star Tony Kukoc. haha

* Laettner was the water boy basically. They put one college guy on the team just as a token.

* Right before the Olympics began Magic (who still assumed he was the best ever) had a team vs Jordan--which was normal. He was lighting it up and jawing alot. Anyway, that got the flames going with Jordan--who had deferred the captain duties to Bird and Magic. He, according to Bird and Brakley, so throroughly dominated Magic that the topic was never raised again.

* Many more great stories!

Check it out sometime.
I saw it, but it was on NBA TV. ;)

And I agree. It's definitely worth watching.
 
Most responses in this thread are scary.

Best of then Vs Best of now.

That was their team back then, you might throw Zeke in if Jordan didn't hate him.

Todays team would at least hang and probably would beat them.

Healthy on both sides and the best players.

Real talk, That is what Kobe is supposed to say.
 
The only real point where today's team can't say anything is at the F and C positions. This current team has nobody in the post, thanks to Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh's injuries.
 
SkinsandTerps;4617570 said:
Most responses in this thread are scary.

Best of then Vs Best of now.

That was their team back then, you might throw Zeke in if Jordan didn't hate him.

Todays team would at least hang and probably would beat them.

Healthy on both sides and the best players.

Real talk, That is what Kobe is supposed to say.

problem is, its not even the best of now, because of injuries. it would be one thing if they had dwight and bynum and bosh and wade, but that 92 front line would just be too much, and the 92 team was just as athletic, bird prob wouldnt play that much
 
MC KAos;4617622 said:
problem is, its not even the best of now, because of injuries. it would be one thing if they had dwight and bynum and bosh and wade, but that 92 front line would just be too much, and the 92 team was just as athletic, bird prob wouldnt play that much
If you could project back 20 years-which I still say is a stretch-adding those 4 to this year's team would make it interesting for sure.

But the game has changed a lot in 20 years and it continues to evolve. And workout regimines are also why players in general keep getting bigger, stronger, and faster. As in football, You have to gauge teams and players relative to the times. It's folly otherwise.

The fact that some will compare a team 20 years forward to the dream team tells you how advanced they were back then..

Oh yeah, WG was correct in saying that documentary was on NBA-tv if anyone wants to find it.
 
Biggems;4617428 said:
It's Olajuwon.....and if you are going to put any Center on the Olympics it is Robinson....btw, Give me Robinson and Olajuwon together starting. No team would be able to score in the low post and with players able to touch the ball on the rim and not get called for goaltending....those two would be blocking so many shots. It would be insane. Of course, you also start Magic, Jordan, and Bird.

PG - Magic
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Robinson
C - Olajuwon

OWNAGE!!!

Robinson would not make this team. If you want Robinson, make your own. He aint good enough to make this team.
 
MC KAos;4617242 said:
wasnt the big O more of a shooting guard? but ya, he is another guy that can easily be in and i would have no problem with, wilt is a different story.

the guy got constantly abused by bill russell when it mattered, id rather have russell and kareem. wilt is just a numbers guy to me.

Are you kidding? Russell never abused Wilt. Russell was a great player who also happened to play on a great team. That is why Russell has the hardware. He wasn't better than Wilt. Wilt's teams weren't as good. Wilt had to do it all and dominated. He was more than a numbers guy, but basketball is a team sport and Wilt was never on the best teams.
 
joseephuss;4617816 said:
Are you kidding? Russell never abused Wilt. Russell was a great player who also happened to play on a great team. That is why Russell has the hardware. He wasn't better than Wilt. Wilt's teams weren't as good. Wilt had to do it all and dominated. He was more than a numbers guy, but basketball is a team sport and Wilt was never on the best teams.
I'm pretty sure Wilt was the most dominant player in the history of the NBA.

But stuff like that can always be debated.
 
DFWJC;4617835 said:
I'm pretty sure Wilt was the most dominant player in the history of the NBA.

But stuff like that can always be debated.

He probably was but like you say, it's certainly debatable. For a large part of his career, he never played anybody his own size. It's easy to play against guys that are 6'9" when you are 7 foot but you are right, he was the most dominating player in the history of the game IMO and you really can't take that away from him.
 
Jordan LOL'd

Michael Jordan says there's no way Kobe Bryant and this year's USA Olympic basketball team could've beaten the 1992 Dream Team.

Jordan told The Associated Press Thursday that he laughed, ''I absolutely laughed'' when hearing Bryant's comments that the squad training in Las Vegas could take Jordan and company.

Jordan says there was ''no comparison'' which team was better, adding that Byrant comparing the two teams ''is not one of the smarter things he ever could have done.''

http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/b...12-team-usa-would-beat-1992-dream-team-071212

Ain't that the truth...shut up and play Kobe. Stop embarrassing yourself and your country, at least you can play for something this year.
 
I wonder how many dental implants the 2012 team would be getting after the game.
 

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