La'el Collins Thread - Cleared post 767; visited Cowboys - 05/06/15

[cheftjpeck]

Hhm. When I google state income tax, it lists seven states that don't have income taxes and lists Florida as one of them.

So are you saying Florida DOES or DOES NOT
Because if you are saying Florida DOES have state income tax .. Then just letting you know your source is wrong ... Been living and working here over 20++ years and never have paid a dime or had a dime removed for a state income tax .. Federal , SS and Medicare are the only tax deductions in state of Florida ...so Google and the Internet is wrong ... Sorry .. LOL.. Like that State Farm commercial .. LOL

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

If the cowboys get Collins this draft class is an A+. I don't see any reason why we're not all in.

 

[LittleD]

I think for udfas, it's more like 3yrs with the option to restructure after 2. I could be mistake though.

You could be exactly right and I'm sure someone will provide us with the absolute correct answer here shortly.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

Honestly this could build the makings of not a great, but a HISTORIC O-Line. Do it Jerry.

Smith-Leary-Fred-Martin-Collins




Sets this team up for a decade.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

To say nothing of giving the finger to the rest of the NFL...again.

 

[LittleD]

That is the one argument I could see with Dallas. He would join the best OL in football as a G and possibly look like a superstar very early in his career. Though I would think the team would have to more or less guarantee him a starting spot before he'd consider that path. Maybe swap Leary for a RB.

Seems very unlikely we could sign him down the road, but we could get a draft pick for him. Maybe a first rounder. Especially if teams think he can be a LT vs knowing he can't.

I don't think we can get a draft pick for him since he is classified as a UDFA. He most likely goes to a party city with a OL that needs immediate help.

 

[Galian Beast]

Cowboys need a full court press here. Have him meet with the Jones', Garrett, Linehan, Pollack, and the entire offensive line.
Woo this guy, and tell him he has a home here and a future.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

I don't think we can get a draft pick for him since he is classified as a UDFA. He most likely goes to a party city with a OL that needs immediate help.

Why? His whole mantra behind "Don't Draft Me" (as dumb as it was) was making a business decision. Going to the Cowboys would be a great business decision for Collins.

 

[LittleD]

Why? His whole mantra behind "Don't Draft Me" (as dumb as it was) was making a business decision. Going to the Cowboys would be a great business decision for Collins.

UDFA's don't qualify for supplemental picks in the draft.

 

[Leadbelly]

I don't think we can get a draft pick for him since he is classified as a UDFA. He most likely goes to a party city with a OL that needs immediate help.

He would be a RFA after his third year. He can be tendered at a level that would bring back a pick or he can just be traded outright.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

UDFA's don't qualify for supplemental picks in the draft.

Ya that part I understood. I was responding to the statement "He most likely goes to a party city with an OL that needs immediate help."

 

[speedkilz88]

I think they promise to extend his deal after the 2nd year which is allowed.

 

[DBOY3141]

Here is a source where I read the planned meetings.
http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescr...a-el-Collins-meets-with-Rex-Ryan/Default.aspx

Players do seem to love Rex.

 

[speedkilz88]

Players do seem to love Rex.

Baton Rouge kid going to NY (BUFFALO) though?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

i don't think we need this on this team - even if he is clean

I don't understand what this statement means? Need what?

 

[LittleD]

He would be a RFA after his third year. He can be tendered at a level that would bring back a pick or he can just be traded outright.

You are probably correct. I just think any team that signs him now is asking for a few problems because he thinks he is
worth millions and got screwed in the draft. He's gonna want all the money he can get, as soon as he can get, & from any
team he can get it from.

 

[DallasBlockersClub]

Baton Rouge kid going to NY (BUFFALO) though?

If Buffalo is the main competition I have to like the Cowboys chances. Miami is tempting but come on the Dolphins suck.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You are probably correct. I just think any team that signs him now is asking for a few problems because he thinks he is
worth millions and got screwed in the draft. He's gonna want all the money he can get, as soon as he can get, & from any
team he can get it from.

And if he is good, the team that signs him should be looking to lock him up long term. I don't really see the problem with that line of thought. To me, if he is good, then you want to sign him to a longer term contract as soon as you possibly can. If you wait and he turn into a Pro Bowl player in three years, you are going to pay more regardless. However, if you let him play a year and you see the potential to be a really good player, then redo his contract in year two and give him good money. It would still be less then what you would have to pay him if you waited till year three and let him walk, assuming he turns out to be what everybody thinks he is.

 

[jterrell]

You could be exactly right and I'm sure someone will provide us with the absolute correct answer here shortly.

yes, correct.

3 year deal and can restructure end of year 2. Draftees is after 3 years and they sign for 4 years.

La'el Collins benefits here by getting one year back and by being able to negotiate for guaranteed money.

Overall his money will probably look very much like a 4-7 round pick minusthe performance enhancement.
Basically rookie minimums with small bonus 50-75k.
BUT, again he can probably get most of that money guaranteed and he can renegotiate for large money after 2 seasons.

 

[LittleD]

And if he is good, the team that signs him should be looking to lock him up long term. I don't really see the problem with that line of thought. To me, if he is good, then you want to sign him to a longer term contract as soon as you possibly can. If you wait and he turn into a Pro Bowl player in three years, you are going to pay more regardless. However, if you let him play a year and you see the potential to be a really good player, then redo his contract in year two and give him good money. It would still be less then what you would have to pay him if you waited till year three and let him walk, assuming he turns out to be what everybody thinks he is.

No problem paying up for a quality OL anytime. That's if he's good.
The Cowboys didn't bring him in for a visit so I'm not sure where they had him rated or if he
would be that good in a zone blocking scheme.