Laufenberg: Romo not just good, but GREAT quarterback

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The Cowboys defense ranked 5th, 2nd and 3rd in Troy's Super Bowl seasons. Aiman enjoyed a hall-of-fame runner, hall-of-fame receiver and an elite offensive line.

But I guess if Romo was great he would have figured out how to play every position.

As for the chips being down....did you not read the numbers...Best all-time passer in the 4th quarter.

Why is this even a debate? Things that are so intuitive shouldn't have to be defended. The fact that a QB cannot single handedly win a Superbowl ought to be self evident to anybody who's ever seen a Superboowl.
 

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This is laughable, Romo had 31 TD's, 10 Int's and a 102.5 QB rating, his leading rusher had less than 900 yards.
He played with no pro bowlers on offense and with 2 on Defense (Ware and Ratliff) but hey, like you said, Romo didn't comply although the team was built to win the SB, it was clearly #9's fault.

I'd argue that the 2011 Cowboys win less than 4 games with an average QB, they needed great QB play to get to 8 wins.

Did he really say that that 2011 team was built to win the Super Bowl?

Hahahahaha. Unbelieveable.
 

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No more dopey or made-up than equating stats to greatness while ignoring his colossal short comings.
He doesn't have "colossal" shortcomings, you keep saying stupid things as if simply saying them makes them true.

The Ring of Honor doesn't have anything to do with stats or championship game appearances. It's simply a group of players who represented the team well for a long period of time on and off the field, and Charles Haley.
 

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As incredible as it sound, he did haha, post #50

If that team was built to win the Super Bowl, then I wonder how on earth Dave Campo never got a ring as the head coach in Dallas. LOL.
 
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Tony Romo was a good QB and sometimes very good...but he was never great. His overall record speaks for it's self. When it comes to Tony, God bless him, there has always been a lot of revisionist history at play.

Great qb's are ones like Brady, Payton Manning, etc. I have no prob saying Tony was very good.
 

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In the Marino days the Dez non catch would have been a catch and Romo would have beaten Green Bay.
So now you're attempting to bending the time-space continuum to defend Romo? Not even quantum physics will save your argument.

Pro Football Hall of Famer Daniel Constantine Marino Jr > no bling undrafted Antonio Ramiro Romo
 

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So now you're attempting to bending the time-space continuum to defend Romo? Not even quantum physics will save your argument.

Pro Football Hall of Famer Daniel Constantine Marino Jr > no bling undrafted Antonio Ramiro Romo
I don't have to defend Romo. Anybody with any sense knows that he is a great qb. One of the best.
 

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Fwiw, Romo is right there with those saying you are defined (at least the final 5-10%) by your postseason success.
He takes ownership...always has.

Its one reason why the last tow years have tortured himso bad.
He got a glimpse in 2014 and saw the bext two years as real shots--especially last year with Zeke and a slightly better D. But his body is not holding up
 

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Why is this even a debate? Things that are so intuitive shouldn't have to be defended. The fact that a QB cannot single handedly win a Superbowl ought to be self evident to anybody who's ever seen a Superboowl.

A lot of fans hold certain viewpoints with near-religious conviction. They refuse to process such views logically.

A quarterback is *by far* the most important position on the field, but he's still just one of 53 players. He has zero impact at all on defense or special teams, which is 60% of the sport.

A quarterback can't coach either...and Romo's Cowboys career has endured a lot of mediocre coaching.
 

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LOL. OK! Two wildcard wins in 14 yrs= GREATNESS....Amen. Dream on.
Haley that is more about the team , not any one player.
The cowboy teams havent been great since 1996, not one great team since then, but there have been some great cowboy players
during that period.
It isnt fair to judge just the qb by playoff wins, and SB wins, but not the other players.

I will add no "great" coaches since Jimmy makes for no great teams.
Parcells, Wade, and Garret have all failed in the playoffs,together, Parcells was 0-2 Wade was I think 1-2 and JG 1-2 ,
together they are 2-6 and in div round they are 0-3 JG is 0-2

JG lost in div round with Romo, and lost again at home, with Dak ! whats the common denominator ?? some say defense,
I say JG.
In fact JG was there and in control of offense on all the playoff losses except the seattle game in 2006.
 

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Lol at you thinking Troy "got lucky"
I take Troy over Romo in a heart beat

Truly great players play their best when the chips are down
Romo never even took the team to a NFCCG let alone the SB

That is how QBs greatness is and should be judged

Romo is good not great
Well that means Dak is just good not great.
He started just like romo, 13-3 and one and done in div round.
 

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I will say this about Romo, he has been fun to watch, an exciting player, always made the seasons fun to watch.
After years of mediocre qb's Tony came along and energized the team and cowboys for a decade.
I enjoyed every season that Tony played in.

The HC's he played under were also mediocre including ol JG, and so the team hasnt done anything in playoffs.

Tony was a franchise QB, he was elite, and he was wasted due to poor coaching and then Jones meddling.
Anyone remember the Roy Williams trade ? Between jones boys, and the coaches they hired, that is the reason
for no playoff wins and no SB .

Now we have Dak, and he got off to same start as Tony, Dak is more into football and I think a harder worker,
so maybe he can overcome mediocre coaching and win in playoffs, but that remains to be seen.
 

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I don't have to defend Romo. Anybody with any sense knows that he is a great qb. One of the best.
Yet you do it anyway. "Anybody with any sense" is a huge swath of humanity. If that was really the sample size that is of the opinion he is great, he'd be more popular yet no one wants him.
 

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Like all things in life, people's viewpoints are extremely varied about specific topics but can usually be categorized as either narrow or broad. Take sports for example and auto racing as an illustration. Some observers will say a driver's success is their's alone. Other observers will say success is a mixture of driver skill, pit crew efficiency, good equipment, etc. Each take will be defended as valid from either a narrow or broad perspective. Who's right? That's debatable but personally I've seen or heard of drivers customarily winning races riding on flat tires,

/rant
 

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He doesn't have "colossal" shortcomings, you keep saying stupid things as if simply saying them makes them true.

The Ring of Honor doesn't have anything to do with stats or championship game appearances. It's simply a group of players who represented the team well for a long period of time on and off the field, and Charles Haley.
He doesn't have colossal shortcomings? Let's take a deeper look at what you say is stupid things and you tell me which part is not true. Because you need a reminder and so that you don't accuse me of cherry picking games, here is a complete history of how every playoff season ended in Tony Romo's entire career as the starting Dallas Cowboys QB:

Jan 2007, Losing the NFC Wildcard games as the FG holder against the Seahawks... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2008, Losing the NFC Divisional game as the #1 seed against the #6 seed Giants... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2010, Losing the NFC Divisional game to a formerly retired Bret Favre/Vikings... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2015, Losing the NFC Divisional game to a one legged Aaron Rodgers/Packers... COLOSSAL FAIL.

Your definition of the Ring of Honor is also a colossal fail when it doesn't include Cowboys greats like Everson Walls and Nate Newton. Mind you, I'm not saying Romo won't be in the RoH but it will be more of an exercise in Jerry Jones' habit to engage in nepotism for his adopted son than it will be recognizing an all-time great Cowboy.
 

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He doesn't have colossal shortcomings? Let's take a deeper look at what you say is stupid things and you tell me which part is not true. Because you need a reminder and so that you don't accuse me of cherry picking games, here is a complete history of how every playoff season ended in Tony Romo's entire career as the starting Dallas Cowboys QB:

Jan 2007, Losing the NFC Wildcard games as the FG holder against the Seahawks... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2008, Losing the NFC Divisional game as the #1 seed against the #6 seed Giants... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2010, Losing the NFC Divisional game to a formerly retired Bret Favre/Vikings... COLOSSAL FAIL.
Jan 2015, Losing the NFC Divisional game to a one legged Aaron Rodgers/Packers... COLOSSAL FAIL.

Your definition of the Ring of Honor is also a colossal fail when it doesn't include Cowboys greats like Everson Walls and Nate Newton. Mind you, I'm not saying Romo won't be in the RoH but it will be more of an exercise in Jerry Jones' habit to engage in nepotism for his adopted son than it will be recognizing an all-time great Cowboy.
I honestly don't know if this is a comedy routine or not. It certainly isn't very funny. No, he doesn't have colossal shortcomings. Brock Osweiller and Tim Tebow have colossal shortcomings. Your four game list is an embarrassing display of reaching. I never knew playing a road playoff game at Lambeau Field where you only had 4 incompletions could be considered a COLOSSAL fail. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
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