Laufenberg: Romo not just good, but GREAT quarterback

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Yes, it was definitely not a great season for him or one of the best all time for a rookie QB because of that.
I didnt say anything about that, just saying he had same results as romo in playoffs.
Judging him like people judge romo, he didnt win the game or go to SB so it means nothing.
Just some good stats.
 

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They'd go 2-3 practices in a row with ball never hitting the ground, supposedly.
Dude was a robot.

you'll not hear me put Tony ahead of Staubach or Aikman.

Some would be surprised to know that Romo threw less ints their either of them. But the rules favored QBs more for Tony and they favor them even more now than just 3 years ago. The whole middle of the field is more accessible now, so it's easier.

Question for you.

Romo plays during Aikman's time. Aikman plays in Romo's time. What's the difference in results?

I believe Romo wins at least 3 Super Bowls. Aikman is eating dinner through a straw.
 

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Question for you.

Romo plays during Aikman's time. Aikman plays in Romo's time. What's the difference in results?
Not sure there is any honestly.
One is theoretical is the only hindrance.
But yes, with those dominant defenses and offenses full of hall of famers and great coaches, for years, I would predict that Romo too would have multiple rings. Maybe the margin of victory might be different but that's splitting hairs and all a guess.
Those teams were so loaded I'm not sure that gives you an answer of who is better but it tells who is good enough....that would be both of them.
 
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Not sure there is any honestly.
One is theoretical is the only hindrance.
But yes, with those dominant defenses and offenses full of hall of famers and great coaches, for years, I would predict that Romo too would have multiple rings. Maybe the margin of victory might be different but that's splitting hairs and all a guess.
Those teams were so loaded I'm not sure that gives you an answer of who is better but it tells who is good enough....that would be both of them.

I think Romo would have done very well, and yes, that's got a theoretical component to it.

I don't think it's theoretical that Aikman would have taken a far bigger beating on Romo's teams and his career would be long over by now.
 

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yep
They'd go 2-3 practices in a row with ball never hitting the ground, supposedly.
Dude was a robot.

you'll not hear me put Tony ahead of Staubach or Aikman.

Some would be surprised to know that Romo threw less ints their either of them. But the rules favored QBs more for Tony and they favor them even more now than just 3 years ago. The whole middle of the field is more accessible now, so it's easier.

Agree with you
Not sure why people feel the need to denigrade Troy to try and praise Romo
Maybe they were not around to see them in action live

Romo had been very very good in his own right
 

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I'm not a Romo hater. I just don't worship at the house of Romo like most of you homers do. Outside of Cowboys Nation, you'll find very few that say Romo is great and fewer saying he's Ring of Honor great and even fewer saying he is Hall of Fame great. You homers live in the Rome love forest so I don't blame you for thinking the way you do, but you need to know there is a bigger world outside that forest that see's Romo for what he actually is... a good, not great QB.

I was responding to your choice of words.. You said all 4 of those loses were colossal loses and I strongly disagree with you and I think most people here would. Colossal is a very strong word and my opinion does not fit those loses.... It sounds like your blaming Romo for all those loses which I think is crazy. No doubt he dropped the snap in the Seattle game, nothing will change that. But losing to the Vikings and the Packers both on the road and both being underdogs can not be labeled colossal fails. You mention this house of Romo garbage, yes I love Romo and he is a very very good QB in this league there is NO doubting that... It sounds your solely blaming him for all those loses. You blame him for losing to a retiring Favre but our defense gave up 34 points to that same retiring QB . You leave out the Dez non catch in the Packer game like it had zero factor in the game. it's just Romo's fault according to you. I don't know how you can't see how much better he made those mediocre Cowboy teams. Two years ago he gets hurt and the team wins 1 game without him. I just do not get for the life of me why people just show this lack of respect for this guy.. Some Cowboy fans never appreciated him. You forget the Quincy Carters, and the Drew Hensen's and every other awful QB to wear the jersey since Aikman retired. , . I never once said he was better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees but I think you are completely underselling how good he is. I never once said he was perfect. Another argument is he belongs in the Ring of Honor. The guy leads in almost every catergory among Cowboy QB's. Jerry will put him in. That's my opinion. One other thing, I am so FAR from a homer. I have been down on this organization for so long, and im one of the few that does NOT feel like this team is a lock to win the division and the NFC next year. I think this team is going to take a step back and will get exposed by a better schedule and much better QB's they play this year. So I am far from a homer.
 

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I was responding to your choice of words.. You said all 4 of those loses were colossal loses and I strongly disagree with you and I think most people here would. Colossal is a very strong word and my opinion does not fit those loses.... It sounds like your blaming Romo for all those loses which I think is crazy. No doubt he dropped the snap in the Seattle game, nothing will change that. But losing to the Vikings and the Packers both on the road and both being underdogs can not be labeled colossal fails. You mention this house of Romo garbage, yes I love Romo and he is a very very good QB in this league there is NO doubting that... It sounds your solely blaming him for all those loses. You blame him for losing to a retiring Favre but our defense gave up 34 points to that same retiring QB . You leave out the Dez non catch in the Packer game like it had zero factor in the game. it's just Romo's fault according to you. I don't know how you can't see how much better he made those mediocre Cowboy teams. Two years ago he gets hurt and the team wins 1 game without him. I just do not get for the life of me why people just show this lack of respect for this guy.. Some Cowboy fans never appreciated him. You forget the Quincy Carters, and the Drew Hensen's and every other awful QB to wear the jersey since Aikman retired. , . I never once said he was better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees but I think you are completely underselling how good he is. I never once said he was perfect. Another argument is he belongs in the Ring of Honor. The guy leads in almost every catergory among Cowboy QB's. Jerry will put him in. That's my opinion. One other thing, I am so FAR from a homer. I have been down on this organization for so long, and im one of the few that does NOT feel like this team is a lock to win the division and the NFC next year. I think this team is going to take a step back and will get exposed by a better schedule and much better QB's they play this year. So I am far from a homer.
A #1 seed losing to a #6 seed is about as colossal a loss as a team can lose in the NFL. Of course it is not all Romo's fault but QB's and coaches own their records. Romo has had 4 playoff season and he's 0-4 in a 14 year NFL career... colossal fail. I agree with you that Jerry will put him in the RoH. He can always count on Papa Jones.
 

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I didnt say anything about that, just saying he had same results as romo in playoffs.
Judging him like people judge romo, he didnt win the game or go to SB so it means nothing.
Just some good stats.

I was agreeing with what you are saying. If we use the same standard some are using to disparage Romo, then Prescott didn't have a successful season or one of the best rookie seasons ever. It's either that or it's only not a team game when it comes to what some are trying to sell about Romo.
 

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Yes a guy like you. An ignorant cry baby.
You don't like the message so you attack the messenger? That's not very Christian of you. Furthermore, it's you that is doing the crying, lol. Get a grip of your emotions and understand we all have various opinions on this board and we will not always agree on everything. Throwing pejoratives out at those you disagree with is no way to defend your opinions or dispel others in a civil society.
 

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I was agreeing with what you are saying. If we use the same standard some are using to disparage Romo, then Prescott didn't have a successful season or one of the best rookie seasons ever. It's either that or it's only not a team game when it comes to what some are trying to sell about Romo.
So you are going to draw a conclusion about the greatness of two QBs using the same playoff standard when one QB has played one year and the other QB who has played over 10 years. Yeah that makes sense?????

And Romo carries no responsibility for the playoff losses because it is a team game but he mysteriously is the sole reason why those same teams were 8-8 or 10-6 when they should have really been 3-13.

This place continues to amaze me in so many ways. Actually pretty funny stuff from so-called adults.
 

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I believe Favre was the quarterback during the 2007 season when the Giants beat the Packers in Green Bay. I think Favre threw one of his typical interceptions, and that in overtime, if memory serves me correctly.

Anyway, carry on. :)

That's correct, it was in 2011 that the Giamts finished the season over teams starting Romo (injured), Ryan, Rodgers, and Brady.
 

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So you are going to draw a conclusion about the greatness of two QBs using the same playoff standard when one QB has played one year and the other QB who has played over 10 years. Yeah that makes sense?????

And Romo carries no responsibility for the playoff losses because it is a team game but he mysteriously is the sole reason why those same teams were 8-8 or 10-6 when they should have really been 3-13.

This place continues to amaze me in so many ways. Actually pretty funny stuff from so-called adults.
It's not that black and white. Sure there were some games Romo played a hand in losing, all qbs have those games, but if you want to talk playoffs, outside of the Seattle game game early in his year, please layout any plays he made individually within reason , that caused a playoff loss.(not the desperation heave against the Giants on 4th down with the clock running out.
 

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It's not that black and white. Sure there were some games Romo played a hand in losing, all qbs have those games, but if you want to talk playoffs, outside of the Seattle game game early in his year, please layout any plays he made individually within reason , that caused a playoff loss.(not the desperation heave against the Giants on 4th down with the clock running out.
And if we're talking quarterback play, the special team holder play has nothing do with him as a quarterback. In fact, as a QB, he led them down the field for the go ahead points.
I wonder if any starting QB has ever had to hold for a FG since then in the NFL.

Have to admit, the guy has been snakebit.
 
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It's not that black and white. Sure there were some games Romo played a hand in losing, all qbs have those games, but if you want to talk playoffs, outside of the Seattle game game early in his year, please layout any plays he made individually within reason , that caused a playoff loss.(not the desperation heave against the Giants on 4th down with the clock running out.
That's the point. It is black and white with any conversation that absolves Romo of any blame for losses....... It only becomes gray when any responsibility for the playoff losses is directed his way.

And you just made my other point. You point out that the Seattle debacle was early in his career but others don't let Dak escape from his first playoff. Thanks for the help!
 

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A #1 seed losing to a #6 seed is about as colossal a loss as a team can lose in the NFL. Of course it is not all Romo's fault but QB's and coaches own their records. Romo has had 4 playoff season and he's 0-4 in a 14 year NFL career... colossal fail. I agree with you that Jerry will put him in the RoH. He can always count on Papa Jones.


Not sure what you meant.. you say" Romo has had 4 playoff season and he's 0-4" I know you know he has won 2 playoff games so im not sure exactly what you were trying to say here...I think I'm misunderstanding you
 

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Not sure what you meant.. you say" Romo has had 4 playoff season and he's 0-4" I know you know he has won 2 playoff games so im not sure exactly what you were trying to say here...I think I'm misunderstanding you
4 playoff runs and 0 SBs is 0-4, pardon your faux ignorance. You know what I am saying.
 

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That's the point. It is black and white with any conversation that absolves Romo of any blame for losses....... It only becomes gray when any responsibility for the playoff losses is directed his way.

And you just made my other point. You point out that the Seattle debacle was early in his career but others don't let Dak escape from his first playoff. Thanks for the help!

I clearly said Romo had a hand in some losses, but you have yet to come up with any instances. So you're point hasn't been made. Anyone with any football knowledge, can take a specific play and say yeah, that was the reason we lost, I asked you to explain some.
 
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