Let Dak walk, Get Derek Carr this offseason?

[jnday]

What do you guys think? Personally i'd rather have Carr, i think he can thrive in the right offense. Much like Amari, i think things have gone stale for him in Oakland and he needs a fresh start. Imagine this offense with a QB who can actually put the ball in the right place and not make receivers have to adjust when they are open. We can actually have potential 35 yard gains be 35 yards and not 18-20 yarders because the ball wasnt put in the right place...

Yes, yes , yes. I have thought about this senerio as well . It would be great to have a QB that can pass accurately. Carr would give the team a better chance to win a Super Bowl.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Lol i be smokin weed and drinking and some of these threads stay killing my buzz

Right. Some of these dudes are on that hard white and need to be reviewed each time they post. Makes no sense some of the stupid threads that pop up.

 

[morat1959]

Nothing wrong with that pass at all, maybe a tad high but nothing to get your panties in a wad over.

Unless you’ve seen him do it about 500 times.

 

[Nav22]

Yes, yes , yes. I have thought about this senerio as well . It would be great to have a QB that can pass accurately. Carr would give the team a better chance to win a Super Bowl.

Yeah! Forget their stats, records and any other tangible proof to the contrary! Carr is more accurate than Dak because the Kid Rock fan (LOL!) says so!

If only Dak “looked the part” like Carr does. There’s just a certain QB quality that Carr possesses... Dak only has half of that quality, genetically. Too bad.

 

[408Cowboy]

Yes, yes , yes. I have thought about this senerio as well . It would be great to have a QB that can pass accurately. Carr would give the team a better chance to win a Super Bowl.

Have you watched Carr? Like at all? Other than highlight reels? Since he broke his hand and leg in '16 he ain't been nearly the same.

 

[Jake]

Yeah! Forget their stats, records and any other tangible proof to the contrary! Carr is more accurate than Dak because the Kid Rock fan (LOL!) says so!

If only Dak “looked the part” like Carr does. There’s just a certain QB quality that Carr possesses... Dak only has half of that quality, genetically. Too bad.

I gave up trying to use facts in this thread. It's all about feelz.

Every starting QB in the NFL is "more accurate" than Dak. They "know" this because they've seen all of Dak's incompletions, yet every time they see these other QBs in highlight shows they're throwing touchdowns.

 

[408Cowboy]

I know so many Raiders fans that would rather have Dak. This **** is dumb.

 

[KJJ]

buncha haters on here...this was simply a


Drew Brees? Rich Gannon? Also Carr didnt exactly struggle his whole time in Oakland, he was a top 10 QB a couple years ago and then **** hit the fan. Look im not saying this is a slam dunk, it was merely a floating thought. Buncha haters in here.

All the arrows were pointing up with Drew Brees when he left San Diego. His play was keeping Phillip Rivers on the bench. The problem was he suffered a serious shoulder injury that left his future in doubt and the Chargers had given up a top 5 pick for Rivers 2 years earlier and he needed to play. The Chargers had a dilemma and had no choice but to let Brees walk. However they didn't replace him with a veteran QB who had just failed with another team, which is what some on this board want us to do with Dak. There were several veteran QBs kicked to the curb this past offseason and everyone of them have come up by idiots on this board as a better, more cheaper option than Dak. As for Rich Gannon he "flourished" one season in Oakland in 2002 where he passed for over 4600 yards, won league MVP and led the Raiders to the SB.

The previous 3 seasons with the Raiders his numbers weren't much better than Dak's. He fell off the map after that SB season with the Raiders. Jim Plunkett is another QB who left a bad team to have success with the Raiders but his numbers during those two SB years weren't even close to the numbers Dak has put up. As for Carr he looked good early on which earned him a big contract but he's regressed since. He only tossed ONE TD to Amari in 6 games last season, while Dak tossed 6 TDs to Amari in 9 games. Amari never had a 200 yard game with Carr or produced over 700 yards in 9 games like he did with Dak. The arrows are pointing down with Carr and they're pointing up with Dak who was on pace for 4500 yards the second half of last season.

If Carr is available after this season what does that tell you? It tells you he's continuing to struggle and that the Raiders have given up on him. Name a veteran QB from another team that "flourished" when they came to Dallas? Did Ryan Leaf flourish with the Cowboys? Did Bledsoe and Vinny flourish in Dallas? Did Brandon Weeden and Matt Cassel flourish with the Cowboys? Some fans on this board are so lost they're hoping Carr stinks in Oakland this season so he can be our QB next year. Think about that for a second. If we win the SB this season there's bozos on this board that will still want Dak replaced. They'll argue Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won SBs were they any good? They'll spin we won in spite of Dak and that he's not the answer. They'll continue to bring up these losers who've been kicked to the curb as being better options than Dak. Despite a solid offseason, training camp and preseason so far some continue wanting Dak replaced. Dak is about to reach his ceiling and fans would rather have a QB from another team who's struggled the past couple of seasons. Not many topics on this board show the lack of football intellect like these Dak debates. If you want to replace Dak with Pat Mahomes I get that but some of the names that keep coming up as better options than Dak are ridiculous! By the way if you think Carr puts the ball in the right place consistently you need to check his game film.

 

[hornitosmonster]

No, just no...

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

Maybe a "TAD" high that has a high possibility if not for Gallup to be a "TAD" interception.....

Not really, watched it several times and it wasn't high, should be a routine catch for any NFL WR. The DB just made a good play on the ball and Gallup made a better one.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

I think Carr and Dak are similar level players. Dak at $40M vs Carr at $25M? I might take Carr. I like Dak’s ball security better and his ability to run the football.

Dak needs to run the ball 6 times per game to keep defenses honest

Wasnt Carr in the running for MVP a few years ago? I think hes a different player with a O Line.

 

[bodi]

draft our new QB

 

[Sarge]

What do you guys think? Personally i'd rather have Carr, i think he can thrive in the right offense. Much like Amari, i think things have gone stale for him in Oakland and he needs a fresh start. Imagine this offense with a QB who can actually put the ball in the right place and not make receivers have to adjust when they are open. We can actually have potential 35 yard gains be 35 yards and not 18-20 yarders because the ball wasnt put in the right place...

I’m glad you’re not in charge.

 

[JReed1000]

Why do y’all think Amari felt like he fell into football heaven.....it wasn’t just about the Raiders organization...Carr Sucked.

 

[Hadenough]

Why is anyone even debating Dak v Carr? Neither of them cracked the "top 100" list, the end-all-be-all of player debates.

Kirk Cousins came in at 78th overall (and 13th best QB), though. Maybe Dallas should go after HIM?

http://www.nfl.com/network/top100

Dallas might be better off with Cousins over Dak. If they could get Cousins for 28 mil vs Dak for 34 mil I would definitely take Cousins. But I would prefer Dallas reload and draft a young stud QB in the first round. Nothing like that rookie contract to stack talent around him like they did Dak.

 

[Hadenough]

Why do y’all think Amari felt like he fell into football heaven.....it wasn’t just about the Raiders organization...Carr Sucked.

I dont think Amari responded well to yelling and screaming. Gruden is a real hard nose coach.

 

[Number1]

What do you guys think? Personally i'd rather have Carr, i think he can thrive in the right offense. Much like Amari, i think things have gone stale for him in Oakland and he needs a fresh start. Imagine this offense with a QB who can actually put the ball in the right place and not make receivers have to adjust when they are open. We can actually have potential 35 yard gains be 35 yards and not 18-20 yarders because the ball wasnt put in the right place...

Gruden would make that trade so fast - Dak's worst year had a better CMP% than Carr has for his 5 year career

last year both Dak and Carr went through massive change on O, rebuilding

both went from normal sack rates in their careers in the 20s / 30s, to the 50s, both fumbled 12x

Dak 7.4 YPA, Carr 7.3 YPA

but how many close games did OAK win on their way to a typical 4-12 rebuilding season?

if you want to see what a QB is worth - look at their 2 min stats
2 minute drills - in 2018
Dak 91 ATTs / 8 TDs / 1 INT (11 sacks)
Carr 88 ATTs / 2 TDs / 1 INT (3 sacks)

 

[TexasHillbilly]

Dallas might be better off with Cousins over Dak. If they could get Cousins for 28 mil vs Dak for 34 mil I would definitely take Cousins. But I would prefer Dallas reload and draft a young stud QB in the first round. Nothing like that rookie contract to stack talent around him like they did Dak.

When the vikings don't make the playoffs this year, Cousins will be looking for another job and the vikings will most likely be eating some of that cap money for a while. Cousins has not proven that he can lead a team to the promise land or even playoff success for that matter.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Well, now that Dak's brother is tweating about respect........ I don't see any option other than to pay him. Nothing worse that being accused of disrespect on twitter.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

Well, now that Dak's brother is tweating about respect........ I don't see any option other than to pay him. Nothing worse that being accused of disrespect on twitter.

Dak probably told his brother to shut up and stay out of his business. All these guys are going to get their due. The next question.....when and how much? It will be too much to so many on these boards no matter what the amount. Fun times ahead.