Let's stop the Dak is not great non-sense

[CATCH17]

Just like you looked at Mahomes and Watson and said "Kaaya and Beathard will translate better to the pros?" lol. Yeah your opinion means about as much as a 10 year old playing madden.

I can also project you're not a very bright guy because I've explained to you countless times how thinking someones game translates better to the pro's doesn't mean I think they are a better player.

For example..

I think the system Mac Jones ran in college translates best to the Pro's out of all of these QB's but I have him ranked as the 5th best QB.

I liked Kaaya and Beathards game because they played in Pro Style systems and Mahomes played in some Texas Tech BS offense that in his own words said he couldn't read a defense until last season.

So please turn that little brain on and try to retain that information next time.

 

[phildadon86]

I can also project you're not a very bright guy because I've explained to you countless times how thinking someones game translates better to the pro's doesn't mean I think they are a better player.

For example..

I think the system Mac Jones ran in college translates best to the Pro's out of all of these QB's but I have him ranked as the 5th best QB.

I liked Kaaya and Beathards game because they played in Pro Style systems and Mahomes played in some Texas Tech BS offense that in his own words said he couldn't read a defense until last season.

So please turn that little brain on and try to retain that information next time.

No matter what way you spin it. You said 2 guys who are top 10 qbs werent going to be as good of pros as 2 guys who arent even starters. Try and keep up.

 

[CATCH17]

No matter what way you spin it. You said 2 guys who are top 10 qbs werent going to be as good of pros as 2 guys who arent even starters. Try and keep up.

It's not spin.

I think Mac Jones game translates best to the Pro's out of any QB in this draft.

He's my 5th best QB and could be completely terrible but that doesn't mean that the style he played in college doesn't translate very well to the Pro's.

I hated Justin Fields game in college but I still think he is more talented than Mac Jones as well as Trey Lance because I prefer a dual threat QB in the modern game.

You please try and keep up.

 

[phildadon86]

It's not spin.

I think Mac Jones game translates best to the Pro's out of any QB in this draft.

He's my 5th best QB and could be completely terrible but that doesn't mean that the style he played in college doesn't translate very well to the Pro's.

I hated Justin Fields game in college but I still think he is more talented than Mac Jones as well as Trey Lance because I prefer a dual threat QB in the modern game.

You please try and keep up.

Saying anything other than Mahomes is going to be the best QB in this draft is a spin. No matter how you want to word it. You sound like a moron. You even tried moving the goal posts again by saying "well other teams agreed with me" citing the fact that Mahomes was drafted later in the first round. Not realizing you made yourself look even worse if you look at where Kaaya and Beathard were drafted. But hey. Keep it up. @CowboyRoy can tag in now. I have a conference call.

 

[CATCH17]

Saying anything other than Mahomes is going to be the best QB in this draft is a spin. No matter how you want to word it. You sound like a moron. You even tried moving the goal posts again by saying "well other teams agreed with me" citing the fact that Mahomes was drafted later in the first round. Not realizing you made yourself look even worse if you look at where Kaaya and Beathard were drafted. But hey. Keep it up. @CowboyRoy can tag in now. I have a conference call.

Dude you don’t understand.

It’s big boy conversation that you aren’t ready for clearly.

Learn what a pro style offense is and look at some other gimmicky college offenses and maybe that little brain will figure it out.

Cowboyroy can’t help you because he’s just as brain dead as you are.

If you want some quality football opinions you can shut your mouth and read what I post and if I want advice on becoming an absolute tool box I’ll come find you.

Ive been patient with you clowns but I’m done.

 

[RonnieT24]

Let's see, I got this:

Marino(of course)
Tarkenton
Meredith
Fouts
Kelly
Sonny Jurgenson
Moon
Tittle
Esiason
Hadl
Cunningham
Ken Anderson
Brodie
McNair
Krieg
Rivers
Luck


Did I miss anyone? Not sure why we're doing this, but it was fun.

Wait... Kreig? Dave Kreig? That may be stretching a bit. I might take Zorn (ironically another ex-Seahawk) over him.. but that's just me.

 

[phildadon86]

Dude you don’t understand.

It’s big boy conversation that you aren’t ready for clearly.

Learn what a pro style offense is and look at some other gimmicky college offenses and maybe that little brain will figure it out.

Cowboyroy can’t help you because he’s just as brain dead as you are.

If you want some quality football opinions you can shut your mouth and read what I post and if I want advice on becoming an absolute tool box I’ll come find you.

Ive been patient with you clowns but I’m done.

Lol look at the "big boy" getting all personal and angry. Dont throw a tantrum buddy. Its ok. We all make mistakes. The difference is most of us MEN learn how to own up to them.

 

[RonnieT24]

oh, the uninformed argument of stumbling out of the block.

game 1 against the rams....cowboys lead 14-13 at half time.
game 2 against atlanta..you are right, we started the game with 3 fumbles, one by Dak, one by Zeke, one by Schultz...but I guess all three are Dak's fault....given that's seemingly what you are insinuating.....
game 3 against Seattle. game is tied 9-9 after first quarter. we were down 23-15 at half. 30-22 at the end of 3rd quarter. got the lead in the 4th quarter. typical NFL game.
game 4 against cleveland. Dallas is leading 14-7 after first quarter. the defense was on the field 6 times and gave up 4 TDs and a field goal to cleveland. perhaps your complaint is why didn't we score every time they did.


you are obviously looking at this with a biased view, given the games above.....against Atlanta offense dug themselves a hole with three fumbles, one being a sack-fumble by Dak. but seemingly you fault Dak for the other two fumbles.
against Cleveland, we gave up 200 yards rushing in the first half alone..... let that sink in for a second. 200 yards is too much for a whole game. we gave up that much in a half. your complaint is that we didn't score everytime they did....and you blame the offense being completely blind to the incompetence of the defense.

Please stop with the logic and facts that contradict the narratives that folks want to endorse. It's not polite..

 

[CATCH17]

Lol look at the "big boy" getting all personal and angry. Dont throw a tantrum buddy. Its ok. We all make mistakes. The difference is most of us MEN learn how to own up to them.

Oh please. You've posted the same crap at me for months.

You value my opinion way too much and I don't value yours at all.

I don't like to be rude to people but my gosh you have earned this.

 

[USArmyVet]

no different than labeling Dak a bust for 2019 8-8 record. and seemingly you are putting all wins and losses on Dak....then in another response you said no, its the team. so which is it? are you flip flopping based on the post?

When did I say Dak is a bust simply for 2019? I personally think Dallas should have turned the QB page after 5 seasons of Dak while others feel differently, which is fine. So, please stop making accusations that are unfounded.

 

[RonnieT24]

Drafting injured players doesnt help rebuild a defense either, and yet there are posters here that would still take that golden upside risk that we can harvest elite value from drafting the rehab projects like Jaylon, and now even Farley.
So a bit off base, but we cant fix this defense quickly. We at least have Gallimore, Diggs and Wilson as a base line,, thats actually pretty impressive adding 3 to the 11 needed in just one draft last year.
Its a start and if we add 3 more quality pieces to this defense in this draft this defense starts looking a lot different, and that is highly obtainable, this draft is deeper than most realize or want to admit.

Wilson was drafted in 2019 not 2020.. If he and Hill pan out then that would be two starters each from the last two drafts. Get two more in the coming draft and we might be on our way. I know Hill is a bit of lightning rod but it's often forgotten that he is actually a year YOUNGER than Gallimore.. He came into the league needing to mature both physically and emotionally but dude has tools.. We just need to develop him. I don't know that the previous regime was all that great at interior developing d-linemen.. Let's hope Quinn is a little... no a lot better..

 

[USArmyVet]

Why do everyone put the entire blame for the teams futility on Dak? So stupid.

Yeah, sort of like giving Dak all the accolades for points scored per game average for 21 games.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Lol @ Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson being better than Dak.

Laugh off the truth. Lamar and Josh Allen are both better QB's than Dak Prescott. Both have better arms and are better runners. Dak may be more accurate than Jackson, but thats not saying much. But Ravens receivers are trash. Allen is light years ahead of Dak in passing ability and will likely get better as they build around him. The Bills were one offensive weapon away from truly competing for an AFC title last year.

 

[USArmyVet]

I don't paint you into anything. you do a fine job of that yourself. All I ever do is quote you to you and you try to spin out of it....seemingly you don't like me quoting you...

If you are going to quote anyone then do it verbatim instead of making assumptions or injecting your own falsehoods while attributing it to what someone says.

 

[Einstein]

It depends on your criteria for great. Dak is a top ten quarterback. He’s very good. Great is usually applied to players like Joe Montana or Warren Moon.

Based on the criteria here in the czone, HOW in the HECK is Warren Moon Great?!?

 

[phildadon86]

Oh please. You've posted the same crap at me for months.

You value my opinion way too much and I don't value yours at all.

I don't like to be rude to people but my gosh you have earned this.

Im glad you dont value my opinion. That would mean I am so far off base that I shouldnt even be discussing football. I still believe whole heartedly that if we won a superbowl with Dak you would find a way to make it seem like he had nothing to do with it. Thats the difference.

 

[Whirlwin]

how coudl he be? he never won a superbowl or went to one...

Yeah neither did , Dan Marino

 

[Whirlwin]

how coudl he be? he never won a superbowl or went to one...

I guess you think Trent Dilfer was exceptional

 

[RonnieT24]

Laugh off the truth. Lamar and Josh Allen are both better QB's than Dak Prescott. Both have better arms and are better runners. Dak may be more accurate than Jackson, but thats not saying much. But Ravens receivers are trash. Allen is light years ahead of Dak in passing ability and will likely get better as they build around him. The Bills were one offensive weapon away from truly competing for an AFC title last year.

Until last year I would have agreed that Jackson was better.. but dude took a huge step back in 2020 while Dak was taking a sizeable leap forward.. Jackson showed that a lot of teams have caught onto him while Dak was showing another level of play we had not seen out of him before he was injured.. Allen had a monster year but it's only one.. so until he gives me more than one year as a great passer I'm not ranking him that high. Ironically he was crap as a passer until the Bills got him some good receivers in Diggs and Beasley.. Yet when the Cowboys did the same for Prescott it was seen as some sort of knock against him.. How does that work? And exactly how can Allen be "light years ahead of Dak in passing ability" yet have a career passer rating nearly 10 points lower, with a much lower completion percentage and considerably higher INT rate? On what do you base this "light years ahead" assessment? And while you're explaining that maybe you can also explain why Allen is the only QB in the NFL who is allowed to get better as the team builds around him?

 

[Whirlwin]

Romo is far more skilled than Prescott.

Prescott plays to not screw things up for those around him.

Romo played to try and carry a team with all types of problems for most of his career.

Romo elevated guys.. Guys elevate Dak.

You’re dreaming. Come back to reality.