Lets talk about what ended drives yesterday

Vtwin

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He had what looked to be good pass blocking in front of him with Steele. Looked right, then looked left and Hutch was on him.

If you want to put that on Dak....i'm not surprised.

Only qb in the league who gets blamed for 2 second sacks.


3 seconds.
He was "looking right" literally right at the defender AS he had beaten the blocker. Instead of recognizing what was about to happen and spinning out to the openings he had on both sides, OR at least throwing the ball at the feet of the receiver crossing near the LOS, or the TE right in front of him, he froze up and gave up.

He had legitimate options to attempt to avoid the sack but he either was way to slow on processing what was going on around him, or he just gave up the play.

He literally fell down on his own. AKA quit on the play.
 

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Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

Drive 2, 3, and 8 are what concern me/drive me nuts the most. I don't understand why this team has such a problem getting through short yard situations. Before (I can see this coming from a mile away) somebody quotes me "Kellen Moore", it seems to be more than that. I've seen him call runs up the gut, end arounds, pass plays, etc. They've all failed. It just seems like 3rd down is in this team's head and they cannot execute. It needs to be fixed.
 

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It was high and a bad pass that should have been easy. If you want to call it a drop go for it but that does not excuse the pass!
I never said it was a perfect pass but it hit him in his hands. His job is to catch it.
 

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Drive 1 - Bad pass by Prescott on first attempt and then a sack
Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 4 - Penalties
Drive 5 - Fumble
Drive 6 - TD
Drive 7 - Sack-great defensive play by Hutchinson
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

This was not a bad Dak game, It was pretty poor by the offense on the 3rd down plays that cost us sustained drives. They seemed to have a letdown thinking they did not have to makeup for Rush's shortcomings
It was mostly Moor's fault. He absolutely should have gotten cute on each of the 3rd down runs and called a pass play instead. It was his inept play calling that kept us from getting the first down on each. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Drive 1 - Bad pass by Prescott on first attempt and then a sack
Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 4 - Penalties
Drive 5 - Fumble
Drive 6 - TD
Drive 7 - Sack-great defensive play by Hutchinson
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

This was not a bad Dak game, It was pretty poor by the offense on the 3rd down plays that cost us sustained drives. They seemed to have a letdown thinking they did not have to makeup for Rush's shortcomings

Third down play calling was terrible
 

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Holy crap....you guys are ridiculous.

It was one sack that came as a surprise to Dak. He didn't see Hutch until he spun around the RT. He was looking for a play further down the field, not a dump to the RB.

You guys complain when he dumps it quick and complain when he doesn't. Make up your minds.

It’s obvious that most people know nothing about actual football. I’m not saying they don’t have the right to their opinions, just that their opinions are without any knowledge of the game.
 
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Agreed. Short yardage runs are an issue. Both backs have had some nice runs lately so I think the issue is in the blocking schemes for those plays. Could also be an issue with predictable play calling. Some of those third and short plays were like playing Tecmo Super Bowl in the nineties and your opponent guessed right on what offensive play you called. All his players then swarm you for a loss.

we have that from opposing teams

they say we know your plays

fault Kellen Moore

solution. McCarhy needs to rein him in and share , here’s how we did things differently in GB
 

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Drive 1 - Bad pass by Prescott on first attempt and then a sack
Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 4 - Penalties
Drive 5 - Fumble
Drive 6 - TD
Drive 7 - Sack-great defensive play by Hutchinson
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

This was not a bad Dak game, It was pretty poor by the offense on the 3rd down plays that cost us sustained drives. They seemed to have a letdown thinking they did not have to makeup for Rush's shortcomings

I disagree on Drive 1. It wasn't the greatest pass but this is the NFL and Brown should have caught it. In fact, Brown ended drives 1, 4, and 5 all by himself. It was a bad game for him.
 

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It’s obvious that most people know nothing about actual football. I’m not saying they don’t have the right to their opinions, just that their opinions are without any knowledge of the game.
Sorry guys. Many quarterbacks would have gotten rid of that ball. If u ever want to have a football knowledge contest let me know. Happy to clean ur clock
 

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Garret used to do the run it into the back of the center two times in a row...it would be 3rd and 8 and he would think he was out-smarting the other team by running it right up the middle again. I say Garret do this so many times.

Now...if true...Moore is putting Zeke out wide on 3rd and short or doing empty backfield shotguns....

Obviously there is an element of tricking or getting cute that OC's use. Can anyone confirm or deny how many times Zeke wins on 3rd and shorts? I love Zeke and his ability to get an extra yard like Barber...but do teams just stack the box and zero in on him making it harder to get the first down...which is why OC's use trickery?

I understand having to be cute...I just dont know if Moore is over doing it. Garret seemed to over do it with 3rd and long and running it up the middle.

Dak needs to improve.
 

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if you watched the game and took your Dak blinders off, you would say Dak wasn't good. Rush could have done everything Dak did yesterday. There is a much higher standard for Dak vs Rush. Let's not sugar coat things. If that was Rush in there yesterday and he performed exactly how Dak did, Dakazoids would be hailing how Dak would have hung 40 plus on the Lions.
 

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if you watched the game and took your Dak blinders off, you would say Dak wasn't good. Rush could have done everything Dak did yesterday. There is a much higher standard for Dak vs Rush. Let's not sugar coat things.

That ramen noodle hanging off Rush's shoulder is a major NFL liability. Firm pass from me, dawg
 

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if we cant run and convert 3rd and 1 then we have a huge problem going forward.i know the Lions had 8 in the box but even then we should be able to get 1 yard.
folks have to execute but i can assure you calling a play reliant of Shultz getting a block around the end isnt a high % play. Dalton is worse than pollard when it comes to blocking # for #
 

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Drive 1 - Bad pass by Prescott on first attempt and then a sack
Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 4 - Penalties
Drive 5 - Fumble
Drive 6 - TD
Drive 7 - Sack-great defensive play by Hutchinson
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

This was not a bad Dak game, It was pretty poor by the offense on the 3rd down plays that cost us sustained drives. They seemed to have a letdown thinking they did not have to makeup for Rush's shortcomings
Dak could have played better. The first play of the game was a score. Dak over threw a… what 10 yard pass. He has to make those passes.

That being said. No way 5 weeks after a surgery, no way he is 100%. Could have played in egirls game. That would have been super ugly. Once he warmed up even not being 100% he did better. He will improve this week and then we all get a weeks break. Then we go into the gauntlet. We know this. We need a blow out win and have starters sitting by end of 3rd quarter.
 

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Those 3rd and shorts where wierd...the first several were just a flip of the coin play call...2nd half KM actually started setting up runs by staying in the same set with motion and making the defense read the play, I hope this continues because this is how you get short yards...make the defense cover several things not just one.
 

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Dak could have played better. The first play of the game was a score. Dak over threw a… what 10 yard pass. He has to make those passes.

That being said. No way 5 weeks after a surgery, no way he is 100%. Could have played in egirls game. That would have been super ugly. Once he warmed up even not being 100% he did better. He will improve this week and then we all get a weeks break. Then we go into the gauntlet. We know this. We need a blow out win and have starters sitting by end of 3rd quarter.
Yeah, I am not a Dak believer but anybody saying Rush could easily do what Dak did yesterday is blowing hot air. Now the offense could have scored the same amount of points but the stat line of YPA and AYA - Rush only did what Dak did 1 time in 5 weeks and he never sniffed 76% completion percentage. The whole offense let the team down yesterday - it is not on Dak!
 

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Drive 1 - Bad pass by Prescott on first attempt and then a sack
Drive 2 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 run
Drive 3 - Can't convert 3rd and 2 run
Drive 4 - Penalties
Drive 5 - Fumble
Drive 6 - TD
Drive 7 - Sack-great defensive play by Hutchinson
Drive 8 - Can't convert 3rd and 1 AGAIN run

This was not a bad Dak game, It was pretty poor by the offense on the 3rd down plays that cost us sustained drives. They seemed to have a letdown thinking they did not have to makeup for Rush's shortcomings
The haters don’t want to hear this
 
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