Lions are signing Goff to a four-year, $212 million contract extension ($170 million guaranteed)

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You must not have watched him the last three years. He has done more with less than Dak ever has. Goff didn’t have the same talent out at the rams as stafford did. He had a good team but was young and he went to the sb. Trans traded him and he has been able to show that he can not only win, win by putting the team on his shoulders. Goff is hand down better than Dak and that’s just a fact.

it takes a special skill to have everything you say in a post be incorrect lol

 

[Redline360]

he threw 4 tds in 3 playoff games last year lol. what put together the upgraded "trash lions" was the plethora of high picks they've had the past few years. the rams shipped him off with a first round pick, and immediately won the sb. I like goff and i think the detroit reclamation project story is feel good stuff. dak is better though.

Simple minded thinking. If one QB throws 2 or 3 tds and another QB team runs it in after driving down the field does it make the first QB better cause omg its a QB TD? Means so much more! Face value stats mean nothing without looking at the big picture. Also Goff had no INT in those games and played clean ball. Also had his team beating the niners at half until the Gibbs fumble which flipped the momentum of the game. Dak has done nothing like that

Lions have had high draft picks for a long time and still did nothing with them. Stafford is obviously better but a change of culture and coaching staff matters greatly.

 

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also, enough with the "goff made it to a superbowl" they advanced due to one of the worst blown calls in nfl history, and then got blown out behind a pitiful showing from goff. then literally as soon as they ship him off (WITH a first round pick) they immediately win the sb with a qb who'd been labeled a perennial loser. interesting.

 

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Simple minded thinking. If one QB throws 2 or 3 tds and another QB team runs it in after driving down the field does it make the first QB better cause omg its a QB TD? Means so much more! Face value stats mean nothing without looking at the big picture. Also Goff had no INT in those games and played clean ball

Lions have had high draft picks for a long time and still did nothing with them. Stafford is obviously better but a change of culture and coaching staff matters greatly.

well, I could see how it could be simple minded or surface level, if i didn't watch the games and/or they weren't living in perpetuity on video and the internet. there was only one such example of goff driving them down to have a td vultured. he played clean, sure, he did not play "great" (actually outside of the rams game, which he did play well) two of the three games he avg'd a paltry 6.7 yards per pass. and the lions have not had the amount of high picks together as they have had recently. they also hit on a large amount of these picks. goff is cool, i like him, but the rest is a bit much.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yep, the same one who has done much better than Dak in the playoffs with less talent around him.

And?

Your link does nothing to disprove the playoff TD to Turnover production of both QBs.

He outplayed Dak in the playoffs last year with less talent around him (compare all pro selections between Dallas and Detroit in 2023, Dallas had significantly more all-pros than Detroit last year).

You're wrong and confused. We were talking about Kirk Cousins. But proceed lol.

 

[freemanjc19]

Time to trade Dak.

Actually, $53 million a year isn't crazy when you look at what top QBs are getting nowadays. Owners see it as a good investment because a solid QB boosts ticket sales, merchandise, and the team's value. Goff's proven he can lead a team to the playoffs, so he's worth it.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Makes sense but good luck getting the players to buy into that.

Yep. There doesn’t appear to be an end in sight.

The smartest thing you could do in the current cap setup, is to sign all your core players a year early, backload their deals, then by the time their deals are nearing the end, their cap numbers will have fallen back towards the middle of the pack.

Our FO waits until the last minute to sign their star players which kills them as they overpay in the initial negotiation as they have zero leverage, and then they are always behind the next market reset when the time to resign or extend comes around.

They end up losing on both ends of the cycle.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

Why

Don’t do that.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Yep. There doesn’t appear to be an end in sight.

The smartest thing you could do in the current cap setup, is to sign all your core players a year early, backload their deals, then by the time their deals are nearing the end, their cap numbers will have fallen back towards the middle of the pack.

Our FO waits until the last minute to sign their star players which kills them as they overpay in the initial negotiation as they have zero leverage, and then they are always behind the next market reset when the time to resign or extend comes around.

They end up losing on both ends of the cycle.

Exactly the same people saying a 4-year deal for Dak is unworkable because you can’t manipulate the cap number are also saying it would be a good decision to have Lamb and Parsons playing on fifth years options and franchise tags smh

 

[nate dizzle]

Don’t do that.

It's done

 

[slick325]

Goff has been to two NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl in his career. I'm sure his agent stressed those facts during negotiations.

 

[DallasEast]

Goff has been to two NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl in his career. I'm sure his agent stressed those facts during negotiations.

Exactly. It helped his market value with his current employer, who rather paid for what he had and believes can eventually capitalize with, than go with someone else. These contract numbers continue to skyrocket but it is all simply economics.

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

Daks contract just skyrocketed

More like his value just plummeted.

 

[Chasing6]

If the FO was a still on the fence whether to resign Dak.....this is the tipping point. They will NOT be resigning him and will see if he is agreeable on a trade. If he is not, then he will be playing his final season here risking an injury that could affect next season.

Hahaha

 

[Chasing6]

Yeah if you know you're gonna re-sign it's pretty stupid to wait.

Which makes me wonder is it was a terrible miscalculation or they really want to let him play out the year and decide from there.

They want an excuse not to have to resign CD this year. They want him to play on his 5th year. It will be the same for Micah.

Dak's contract comes first then CD's.

 

[Chasing6]

F that. Trade Dak. Im sorry, Im a Dak guy but this is absurd. Dak will want a shorter deal something like 3 years and 200 mil. Thats a big EL PASO for me.

Un-trade-able.

 

[Nova]

As much as I'm out on Dak, I still think he's a better QB than Goff.

But it's like taking a limp sandwich over cold soup

 

[tomokawan]

Actually, $53 million a year isn't crazy when you look at what top QBs are getting nowadays. Owners see it as a good investment because a solid QB boosts ticket sales, merchandise, and the team's value. Goff's proven he can lead a team to the playoffs, so he's worth it.

Dak leads a team to the playoffs too. Is he worth it???

 

[plasticman]

those two seasons they didn't make the playoffs lol. these arguments are wild

I'm saying that he wasn't handed an offensive line with three 1st team All-Pros in Detroit. He didn't have the league's leading rusher standing behind him. He didn't start out in Detroit with a future HOF TE and Pro Bowl WR.

As a rookie with the Rams, they put him in after the team had already started out 4-5. His defense allowed over 30 points in the first four games he started. Gurley averaged 3.2 yards a carry for the 7 games Goff started.

Three years after joining the Rams, they are in the Super Bowl. Three years after joining the Lions, of all teams, they are in the NFC championship game. Look at where he started in both cases. Look where he ended up. Coincidence?

 

[CWR]

They want an excuse not to have to resign CD this year. They want him to play on his 5th year. It will be the same for Micah.

Dak's contract comes first then CD's.

Yeah I don't get it. If you know you want the guy long term, commit sooner and longer. That's how you save money, but you better be damn sure otherwise you get a Miles Austin situation.