Lions WR-Roy Williams likely to leave

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Yes. Especially Miranda from Australia......wow.....Prime-Time babe, also loved the accent..... :starspin

 

[NickZepp]

Roy Williams has been an average WR in the NFL. I may trade him for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick but that's about it.

 

[Rack]

Roy Williams has been an average WR in the NFL. I may trade him for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick but that's about it.

I wonder if anyone has invented a device yet that allows someone to reach through their monitor and slap someone upside the head. I could really use one of those right now.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Roy Williams has been an average WR in the NFL. I may trade him for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick but that's about it.

I am going to assume that this comment was made with all bias put aside? Considering what you have in your signature and all .

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Roy Williams has been an average WR in the NFL. I may trade him for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick but that's about it.

I can't even believe I'm reading this. Nothing, IMO, could be further from the truth but hey, everybody has there own opinions.

I would trade for Roy Williams. I would use a 1st rd pick to trade for him.

Couple of reasons.

As has already been mentioned, you have a proven product in Roy. No gamble on what he may be able to do in the NFL. He has already established what he can do and he still has upside.

Age of our other WRs is a big issue for this team. Heck, we don't even know if Glenn will be able to make it all the way back or how long he will play. May come back and not be able to go. We don't know. You can say develop the younger guys but had we taken this approach last year, we would not now have the #2 offense in the league because we would not have signed TO.

Why do you trade as opposed to waiting for him to be release? As has been mentioned, he may not get released. He could be franchised or transitioned or a number of other things. Also, just because it's rumored that he wants to play in Texas, that doesn't mean he will play for Dallas rather then the Texans or even that he will hit the open market at all. If I'm a team like San Fran or Minnesota or a host of others, I'm looking for ways to trade for RW before he ever gets the opportunity to become an FA. Heck, you know that if we offered nothing and a team like SF offered a 2nd, Detroit would use whatever pressure it had to in order to try and make a trade work. If RW becomes an FA, Detoit gets nothing. If they threaten to Tag him if he doesn't accept a trade, then they get value out of him. It's not wise to take the wait and see approach if we really want him.

Lastly, how would he fit in the offense and the team? RW is a team player without question. He works extremely well in our offense, based on his skills IMO. This guy has improved his game each and every year. Look at the development cycles of WRs and you will see that RW is just now coming into his own as a WR. His best football is in front of him. You can't put a price on how important things like the right attitude and chemistry are on a young team. This is not a guy who is going to send the wrong messages or lead other young players in bad directions. The guy has been hurt over his career but for most of his career, he has been the focus of every defense on the schedule. He has taken the majority of the hits and punishment. In our offense, teams would not focus on him like that. IMO, he would be worth a 1st Rd pick, no question.

I'd do it. I'd either offer up our own first Rd pick or Clevelands in exchange for maybe Detroits 2nd or 3rd and Roy Williams.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No **** sherlock.

yet you still said it?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Giving up a #1 for Roy Williams would be a mistake in my opinion but I would have to know what kind of talent at WR is coming out of the draft.

I really do think that you only use Premium Draft Picks for players that will put your team over the Top.

- Mike G.

 

[Rack]

Giving up a #1 for Roy Williams would be a mistake in my opinion but I would have to know what kind of talent at WR is coming out of the draft.

I really do think that you only use Premium Draft Picks for players that will put your team over the Top.

- Mike G.

Giving up a #1 for a proven probowl WR would be a mistake?


Okay....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'd use the 1st in a package to trade up to get McFadden, WRs don't win Super Bowls

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Giving up a #1 for a proven probowl WR would be a mistake?


Okay....

Why?

You are probably going to get Glenn back and Terrell Owens is going to be here for at least 2-3 more years.

Why not use your scouting department and the draft and get a young guy?

I'm just not a big fan of throwing Premium Draft Picks around.

As I stated, it would have to be a guy that puts the Cowboys on top and I don't think Roy Williams does that.

But as I stated, I could be convinced .

 

[ZenItRam]

I have a dumb question:

As I don't follow the Lions, is Roy Williams a speed guy or a possession guy?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I have a dumb question:

As I don't follow the Lions, is Roy Williams a speed guy or a possession guy?

8 pages about Roy WIlliams and you didn't think to look and see if the question has already been asked and answered?

he's a playmaker w/ great speed and great hands

 

[ZenItRam]

8 pages about Roy WIlliams and you didn't think to look and see if the question has already been asked and answered?

he's a playmaker w/ great speed and great hands

I tried, but when I got to the Roy Williams (SS) bashing I quit. If he has over the top speed, I'd like to see him here with the rest of the Cowboy receiving corps. I just think the mileage is limited with Terry Glenn. He may not have much left to give the Cowboys.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'd use the 1st in a package to trade up to get McFadden, WRs don't win Super Bowls

RBs don't either. OLs, solid defense and excellent QB play win championships IMO. We have the option to take a RB later in the draft if we wanted to. We could get a good solid RB to offset Jones IMO, or, we could just sign him. WR is really not that way IMO. WRs typically don't come out of the draft and become Pro Bowl type players right away. It usually takes a few seasons. To me, if we drafted a guy now, we would be lucky if he ever became a Pro Bowl type WR to begin with. Then, you figure it would take a few seasons before he reached that level. All the while, we probably have a team good enough to win championships now. In 4 seasons, who knows what we have? I'd be much more in favor of trading for an established big play WR then drafting one or even taking a RB at this point.

 

[Rack]

Why?

You are probably going to get Glenn back and Terrell Owens is going to be here for at least 2-3 more years.

Why not use your scouting department and the draft and get a young guy?

I'm just not a big fan of throwing Premium Draft Picks around.

As I stated, it would have to be a guy that puts the Cowboys on top and I don't think Roy Williams does that.

But as I stated, I could be convinced .

1. Glenn won't be back next year. He may not even be back this year.

2. It would be DUMB to spend a 1st on a WR when you can trade a 1st for a young ALREADY PROVEN WR. I could understand using that pick on a different position, but if you're gonna draft a WR anyway, why not just trade it for a known PROVEN commodity?

3. Roy is a proven #1 WR in the NFL. Him and TO would be unstoppable.

4. That said, I'd rather have Fitzgerald.



I could see the logic in saying "We don't really need a WR" cuz we really don't "Need" a WR. But if it comes down to drafting a WR in the first or trading a first for Roy... the OBVIOUS choice is to trade for the young, known, PROVEN player.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

RBs don't either. OLs, solid defense and excellent QB play win championships IMO. We have the option to take a RB later in the draft if we wanted to. We could get a good solid RB to offset Jones IMO, or, we could just sign him. WR is really not that way IMO. WRs typically don't come out of the draft and become Pro Bowl type players right away. It usually takes a few seasons. To me, if we drafted a guy now, we would be lucky if he ever became a Pro Bowl type WR to begin with. Then, you figure it would take a few seasons before he reached that level. All the while, we probably have a team good enough to win championships now. In 4 seasons, who knows what we have? I'd be much more in favor of trading for an established big play WR then drafting one or even taking a RB at this point.

balanced Os plus D wins championships however

think about it, if the Ravens had our passing game, plus what they were able to do against New England running the football, they probably would have won Monday night, huge, and that's the team we'll most likely have to take on to win the Super Bowl

again, I wouldn't trade a 1st for a player who we might have the chance to sign w/o giving up any draft picks for in 2 years

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I'd give my left nut for him . I think he's one of the best in the NFL , and has the total package as far as talent and ability . Detroit is where great players go to die , and Williams has managed to stay alive .

Why do people always give up their left nut and not the right one?

 

[Rack]

Why do people always give up their left nut and not the right one?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Why do people always give up their left nut and not the right one?

they're probably all left-handed

damn southpaws

 

[Maikeru-sama]

1. Glenn won't be back next year. He may not even be back this year.

2. It would be DUMB to spend a 1st on a WR when you can trade a 1st for a young ALREADY PROVEN WR. I could understand using that pick on a different position, but if you're gonna draft a WR anyway, why not just trade it for a known PROVEN commodity?

3. Roy is a proven #1 WR in the NFL. Him and TO would be unstoppable.

4. That said, I'd rather have Fitzgerald.



I could see the logic in saying "We don't really need a WR" cuz we really don't "Need" a WR. But if it comes down to drafting a WR in the first or trading a first for Roy... the OBVIOUS choice is to trade for the young, known, PROVEN player.

As I stated, I could be convinced and you are doing a pretty decent job of it .