Looking Like McFadden Will Be The Starter

[Sarge]

I don't put stock into anything Randle did. He carried the ball a few times a game and was fresh while the defense was tired. Murray opened all that up for him..

No, the OL did.........just like they opened everything for Murray.

 

[ufcrules1]

No, the OL did.........just like they opened everything for Murray.

Disagree with your premise. Sure, our Oline is very good and that helped Murrary, but Murray was also really good too. Randle didn't get many carries last year...you know why? Because Murray was WAY better than him. We basically have a back up and a proven scrub at RB right now.

When your teams identity is the run game and it helped propel you to 12-4, you don't ignore that. The FO has though, they were so obsessed with the defense that they neglected the run game altogether. That will be our weak link this year.

 

[Jarv]

Disagree with your premise. Sure, our Oline is very good and that helped Murrary, but Murray was also really good too. Randle didn't get many carries last year...you know why? Because Murray was WAY better than him. We basically have a back up and a proven scrub at RB right now.

When your teams identity is the run game and it helped propel you to 12-4, you don't ignore that. The FO has though, they were so obsessed with the defense that they neglected the run game altogether. That will be our weak link this year.

Actually I'm fine with Randle, but DMAC's injury history has me iffy with him. Dunbar is who I would like to see replaced as the teams cut down and we can find another back to replace him.

 

[ufcrules1]

Actually I'm fine with Randle, but DMAC's injury history has me iffy with him. Dunbar is who I would like to see replaced as the teams cut down and we can find another back to replace him.

Well right now the guy you are not fine with is our starter because he knows how to pass protect. So if that is the case, then what does that say about the guy you do have confidence in? We are not in a good position at RB right now.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Murray started 37 of the last 39 games for DAL, enough with the he can't stay healthy line.

He hasnt been able to handle the load in college or the NFL. Last 37 games? What about the first 37 games? Amazing how people try to influence the results by showing ONLY the sample size that supports their argument. I choose to look at the entire body of work.

His new coach also agrees he has an injury problem.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ryan Mathews was signed 1 day before Murray and Mathews contract is only for 3.6 mill

3.6 million, not a bad price. But too much for a backup in my opinion. As far as the one day before, I am not sure your point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Right now we don't know what any of them can do.

Definitely a concern. Im pretty sure I know what McFadden can do and that is get hurt.

 

[ufcrules1]

Our FO believes the same thing a lot of our fans believe which is we have an awesome oline, so anyone can run behind it and be successful. That is why they ignored the RB position in the draft and didn't try to work a trade or find someone better in FA. They instead tried to be cheap.. when they didn't have to. We almost have a super bowl caliber team right now.. NOW is not the time to be cheap. That kind of thinking is dumb. If you have a great oline, you need to put a great RB back there to maximize the results.

 

[Doomsday101]

3.6 million, not a bad price. But too much for a backup in my opinion. As far as the one day before, I am not sure your point.

You claimed they got Murray and were so concerned they had to sign Mathews. That is untrue, they signed Mathews before Murray was signed that is the point.

 

[GiveDezdaBall88]

No, the OL did.........just like they opened everything for Murray.

IS that why Murray averaged 5.5 yards per carry in 2011 too when our O-line was trash.?

 

[CowboyRoy]

There's never any guarantee's but had Murray remained with the Cowboys I liked their chances to reach the SB with the defensive additions they made. We strengthened an area of weakness but weakened an area of strength. Mathews has an injury history as well we'll see if he and Murray can stay healthy if they do Philly's going to have a potent running game. The Eagles are desperate for a SB win so they're going all out and Kelly reminds me a little of Jimmy.

Everyone is questioning the moves he's making just like they did with Jimmy. If Bradford can stay healthy and their rookie receiver can make up for the loss of Maclin the Cowboys are going to have a tough time getting past them. I know Jerry is holding his breath because he knows losing Murray to Philly could end up blowing up in his face.

With Murray, we cant sign the Kraken and there was no way for them to know before hand that we would have gotten Gregory in the back of the 2nd round.

Again, Murray was a good back, but nothing special, and he would never have had another season like last year, and he was not worth the money and the contract he signed.

You want your cake and eat it too and you simply cant do that in the NFL anymore. I applaud the Cowboys for no longer just spending for the hell of it in areas they cant afford to. It was more the line than Murray last year. As was proven the first 3 years that Murray was here.

 

[CowboyRoy]

There's never any guarantee's but had Murray remained with the Cowboys I liked their chances to reach the SB with the defensive additions they made. We strengthened an area of weakness but weakened an area of strength. Mathews has an injury history as well we'll see if he and Murray can stay healthy if they do Philly's going to have a potent running game. The Eagles are desperate for a SB win so they're going all out and Kelly reminds me a little of Jimmy.

Everyone is questioning the moves he's making just like they did with Jimmy. If Bradford can stay healthy and their rookie receiver can make up for the loss of Maclin the Cowboys are going to have a tough time getting past them. I know Jerry is holding his breath because he knows losing Murray to Philly could end up blowing up in his face.

Yah, Im not on this Philly bandwagon. The Cowboys defense will be much improved and the pass rush will trump anything we lost in the run game.

McCoy was better than Murray. In my opinion, they downgraded at RB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not looking at last Saturday's preseason game like it's a regular season game but I did expect better from the Cowboys than what I saw. I certainly haven't come to any conclusions based off those 2 games that would be silly.

yah, I watched the game again last night and Randle made plays when there was nothing there. He looked good considering most of the time he was in there with 3rd string lineman. If he stays healthy, Randle is going to be good.

 

[CowboyRoy]

As stiff as he is and his inability to make defenders miss he doesn't look the part of a 3rd down back. You can't just depend on the OL to push the pile for him he's got to show he can push the pile and scratch out the necessary yardage. You seem to think gaining 4 yards will be easy for him when he's only averaged 3.3 a carry the past 3 seasons.

Again, stop talking about McFadden he sucks. I like Randle. Im not responding to another dumb post where you try to convince me that McFadden sucks. I agree with you.

 

[DFWJC]

You claimed they got Murray and were so concerned they had to sign Mathews. That is untrue, they signed Mathews before Murray was signed that is the point.

I thought so too, but the Eagles are saying they signed them on the same day.

they are also saying that they plan to use a RBBC because they think Murray's 2014 workload.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I said he wasn't Emmitt apparently you're not getting it. Murray stayed healthy last season and when healthy he's one of the top backs in football. McFadden also stayed healthy last season but he still only averaged 3.4 a carry which was 3rd on the Raiders.

AGAIN.........when he is healthy.

1 out of 4 years. You could say that about 100 guys.

AND AGAIN............STOP TALKING ABOUT MCFADDEN!!!!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

You claimed they got Murray and were so concerned they had to sign Mathews. That is untrue, they signed Mathews before Murray was signed that is the point.

You are making an erroneous assumption because Mathews was signed one day before. That is incorrect. Obviously they had talks with both backs prior. The one day signing was a coincidence. Did you not read the words of Chip Kelly? Do I need to educate you?

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought so too, but the Eagles are saying they signed them on the same day.

they are also saying that they plan to use a RBBC because they think Murray's 2014 workload.

I have no doubt Mathews will come in for Murray as well as Sproles but I think Murray will get the vast majority of the load around 250 carries

 

[CowboyRoy]

IS that why Murray averaged 5.5 yards per carry in 2011 too when our O-line was trash.?

And how many yards did he have that year with his wonderful average?

It really does amaze me how blind Cowboys fans can be. Murray was our RB here for 4 years. Not last year, but 4 entire years. Do you simply forget his injuries the other 3 years? Did you just forget his injury history in college dropping him the 3rd round? Dont talk nonsense to me. His new coach even understand the FACT that Murray is incapable of carrying the load like he did last year. Here, read it for yourself and educate yourself. Because obviously watching Murray for 4 years didnt educate you enough.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chip-kelly-demarco-murray-injuries-eagles-2015-8

After leading the NFL in rushing yards with 1,845 and a whopping 392 rushing carries and 57 receptions, some in the NFL world were worried that Murray, at 27 years old, would burn out from the heavy workload.

Chip Kelly told SI's Peter King that it is something he's concerned about, and is limiting Murray's action consequently:

"I think there is a lot of validity to it. But how do you manage him going into a season? Our plan all along was to get another running back with him. I wanted to have two running backs, and that’s why we got Ryan [Mathews]. I don’t think you can have a guy carry it 370 to 400 times per season and be successful. We’re going to run it a lot—we always do—but we’ll have more than one guy doing it."

And the Eagles are indeed exercising caution with Murray.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chip-kelly-demarco-murray-injuries-eagles-2015-8#ixzz3jvwZEUlX

 

[Doomsday101]

You are making an erroneous assumption because Mathews was signed one day before. That is incorrect. Obviously they had talks with both backs prior. The one day signing was a coincidence. Did you not read the words of Chip Kelly? Do I need to educate you?

You educating anyone is a joke. Philly paid him 8 mill, action are louder than any words. Does Philly have concerns sure but not enough to prevent them from spending 8 mill a year on Murray.
Go educate yourself.