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BigDFan5;2649598 said:
Pioli in KC tapping his watch behing their head coach telling him to wrpa up chatting with the media comes pretty darn close


Whats the big deal Wade Phillips isnt talking? Big frigging deal LOL

That's Pioli telling him they have somewhere to go. Like a meeting or something with the players they are there to evaluate.

If that was Wade and Jerry I think the way things are playing out right now it would be Jerry grabbing Wade by his ear and leading him away.

Wait. I forgot that Wade wasn't even allowed to talk to the media.
 

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mldardy;2649641 said:
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damn you...
 

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dallasfaniac;2649605 said:
I thought we came off a winning season, could be wrong tho.

Our offense averaged 22.6 points a game.

Our defense allowed 22.8 points a game.

Your proud to say that this was a 'winning team' in 2008?
 

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CowboyMike;2649709 said:
Jerry has put the "no talking" directive on himself too, not just the coaches.

He just talked on Saturday and Sunday.

Where have you been?

He's the one voice that the media will be hearing from now on.

Until someone in the organization talks to 'some sources' that is, lol.
 

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BigDFan5;2649587 said:
Dude you are repeating yourself now. Why not just bump your thread from 2 weeks ago

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CanadianCowboysFan;2649708 said:
well your choice is, accept it or stop following the team. all your complaining, no matter how well intentioned will not change anything.

I think we know that. :) Btw, encouraging words on a message board won't change anything either.

Whether complaining or praising, a message board is for FANS. Jerry never stops in and takes advice from us.

It ALL changes nothing.
 

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BigDFan5;2649598 said:
Pioli in KC tapping his watch behing their head coach telling him to wrpa up chatting with the media comes pretty darn close


Whats the big deal Wade Phillips isnt talking? Big frigging deal LOL

Todd Haley is a 1st time head coach

and he's basically half Wade's age
 

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rcaldw;2649574 said:
this team has never been at a lower point in my estimation.

If you think this, you might have missed the Cowboys just before Jimma arrived in town.
Landry and his Boys were the laughingstock of the league by that point.
Today's team is light-years ahead of those sorry teams pre-Jimma. Landry was a doddering fool and his drafts were sorry and every good player on the team was on the decline. That last Landry team had Irvin, but that's all.
 

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The only thing more depressing than Jerry's ruthless power grab is that quite a few fans are AOK with all this "madness." No matter how bizarre or contemptuous his actions, the reaction is always the same: "no big deal." Publicly neutering our head coach is spun as a good thing. "Hell, we're doing Wade a favor!" Yeah right. The same players who gutlessly quit on him will no doubt be inspired by his mime act.
 

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bbgun;2650075 said:
The only thing more depressing than Jerry's ruthless power grab is that quite a few fans are AOK with all this "madness." No matter how bizarre or contemptuous his actions, the reaction is always the same: "no big deal." Publicly neutering our head coach is spun as a good thing. "Hell, we're doing Wade a favor!" Yeah right. The same players who gutlessly quit on him will no doubt be inspired by his mime act.

You are exactly right.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2650056 said:
If you think this, you might have missed the Cowboys just before Jimma arrived in town.
Landry and his Boys were the laughingstock of the league by that point.
Today's team is light-years ahead of those sorry teams pre-Jimma. Landry was a doddering fool and his drafts were sorry and every good player on the team was on the decline. That last Landry team had Irvin, but that's all.

Well, since I can remember watching and caring about them since the loss to the Colts in 1970, I don't think I missed 1988. I don't agree that we were a laughing stock in the same way we are right now. I don't agree at all.

I already said, I'm not talking talent or record, I'm talking the absurdity that IS Jerry Jones, and his circus.

At least we still had Landry and we had Tex Schramm. We had people in place on a leadership level, that EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PAST THEIR BEST YEARS, they still had respect.

Jerry Jones, without his money and marketing, has ZERO respect on a football level. I will say it again. Take away Jerry as owner and NO ONE hires him as a pure GM. NO ONE.

But, that is really an aside. What got this thread started is Jerry becoming the "lone voice" of the Dallas Cowboys for the moment.

My challenge is still out there. Can anyone find ONE, just ONE, professional sports franchise that has muted everyone else in the organization, including the head coach, or manager, depending upon sport. I want to know another team where the head coach is under "the rules" not to speak to the media.

I'm waiting.
 

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Can someone please tell us this isn't happening?

I'll give it a shot!

*We have an owner that basically sells everything that he can from his past stadium, down to bags of concrete, and you have people buying it.

I think the fact that people are actually buying it pretty much answers the question here. If you could sell your turds, would you not due to the overall value they hold to you?

*We have an owner who, despite what a lot of the zoners have to say about the subject, has indeed made a joke of the head coaching position on his team. Just show me one bona fide head coach who can't talk to the media. Name me one IN ANY SPORT. This is a first, and it makes it just like he likes, Jerry, Jerry, more of Jerry, nothing but Jerry.

It being a first doesn't make it a bad decision. You sight it disregards conventional wisdom; I say it's innovation in response to a desperate need.

*We have an owner who on the one front is gonna chew some butt and on the other front has agreed to the Cowboys version of Pros vs. Joes

Are you saying the draft is the only place to find talent that can play in the NFL? Honestly, while the timing is horrible, the idea is sound. There are people out there who can play football on a professional level. They may need grooming, but they are worthy of a look. And since they are only guaranteed a spot in training camp and not on the 53 man roster, I think it's another example of innovation that could turn out to be genius.

*We have an owner who doesn't even try to hide is megalomania any more. He now just comes out and says that no one knows it like him. Wow

He was referring to his team, not knowledge of football. And on that, he is correct. No one knows the interworking and correspondence that transpires in that team like him. I'm not sure what the problem with that assessment is, unless you are a reporter disguised as a blogger. JJT is that you? Galloway? Mosley?

And on top of it all, there are host of people who applaud it all and say THERE YOU GO, MEDIA TYPES, YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.

I'm not sure how anybody could think that the media is reporting news as it is, as opposed to their output being poisened by the motivation of selling what sells, which at the moment is drama. Twisting his gag order into this huge mistake, for instance, is a perfect example of why the media is considered a monster. I mean, honestly, how does this effect how the team will perform in 09? Really?

Do you really think the media makes this team the joke that it is at times? Do you think the media makes Jerry Jones the laughing stock clown that he is?

Yes. Yes I do. I don't see him as a joke in the least bit. I see him as a man who loves football, loves his team and the city that his team resides in, wants to win and is willing to do anything in that effort. On the flipside of the coin, I see that he is human and, as such, is proned to error. It happens. So long as he maintains want, success, something he has known very well in his life, is not too far in front of him.

I've got news for you. The EVIL media just reports it. They don't have to drum anything up around this team, Jerry Jones gives them loads of fun every season.

Seriously? How blind are you? The "Jerry calls Barber a wuss" headline should tell you everything you need to know about how the media "drums up" the news. I realize you are upset in the wake of the most disappointing season in the history of the Cowboy's, but just know your expectations are the results of the media dubbing this team the paper champions. Granted, Jerry Jones has his aspirations, but what owner doesn't at the beginning of the season. The media is the one that picked the Cowboy's to win the Super Bowl. And we all bought it.

Say what you want, call me what you want, but this team has never been at a lower point in my estimation. They have been lower talent wise. They have been lower record wise. But they have never been lower in terms of how this team is currently functioning on a leadership level.

Even in the Campo days Jerry TRIED to leave the PERCEPTION that Campo was in charge. He doesn't even pretend anymore.

I've already said what I want, I'm going to call you a mediot blinded disappointed fan, who I understand very well, and the point this team is at right now is the offseason, where it really doesn't matter what the perception is, at the end of the day. Why? Because none of it effects who this team will be in 09. For all we know, in training camp, this team will be sick of the perception and renew their ranks with the overall attitude that this team is better than what their 08 selves showed. In the end, though, we don't know. Being upset now serves no one's purpose but maybe the media; and I think they do a good enough of a job on their own creating drama.
 

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jday;2650111 said:
I'll give it a shot!



I think the fact that people are actually buying it pretty much answers the question here. If you could sell your turds, would you not due to the overall value they hold to you?



It being a first doesn't make it a bad decision. You sight it disregards conventional wisdom; I say it's innovation in response to a desperate need.



Are you saying the draft is the only place to find talent that can play in the NFL? Honestly, while the timing is horrible, the idea is sound. There are people out there who can play football on a professional level. They may need grooming, but they are worthy of a look. And since they are only guaranteed a spot in training camp and not on the 53 man roster, I think it's another example of innovation that could turn out to be genius.



He was referring to his team, not knowledge of football. And on that, he is correct. No one knows the interworking and correspondence that transpires in that team like him. I'm not sure what the problem with that assessment is, unless you are a reporter disguised as a blogger. JJT is that you? Galloway? Mosley?



I'm not sure how anybody could think that the media is reporting news as it is, as opposed to their output being poisened by the motivation of selling what sells, which at the moment is drama. Twisting his gag order into this huge mistake, for instance, is a perfect example of why the media is considered a monster. I mean, honestly, how does this effect how the team will perform in 09? Really?



Yes. Yes I do. I don't see him as a joke in the least bit. I see him as a man who loves football, loves his team and the city that his team resides in, wants to win and is willing to do anything in that effort. On the flipside of the coin, I see that he is human and, as such, is proned to error. It happens. So long as he maintains want, success, something he has known very well in his life, is not too far in front of him.



Seriously? How blind are you? The "Jerry calls Barber a wuss" headline should tell you everything you need to know about how the media "drums up" the news. I realize you are upset in the wake of the most disappointing season in the history of the Cowboy's, but just know your expectations are the results of the media dubbing this team the paper champions. Granted, Jerry Jones has his aspirations, but what owner doesn't at the beginning of the season. The media is the one that picked the Cowboy's to win the Super Bowl. And we all bought it.



I've already said what I want, I'm going to call you a mediot blinded disappointed fan, who I understand very well, and the point this team is at right now is the offseason, where it really doesn't matter what the perception is, at the end of the day. Why? Because none of it effects who this team will be in 09. For all we know, in training camp, this team will be sick of the perception and renew their ranks with the overall attitude that this team is better than what their 08 selves showed. In the end, though, we don't know. Being upset now serves no one's purpose but maybe the media; and I think they do a good enough of a job on their own creating drama.

Hello Jerry, how are things in your world? :)
 

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rcaldw;2650121 said:
Hello Jerry, how are things in your world? :)
If I were Jerry, my above response would not be worthy of my time...
 

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jday;2650153 said:
If I were Jerry, my above response would not be worthy of my time...

Oh, believe me, it would be. Just ask Randy Galloway, after Jerry's 30 minute rambling defense of his football expertise on a call in line. lol.
 

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rcaldw;2650191 said:
Oh, believe me, it would be. Just ask Randy Galloway, after Jerry's 30 minute rambling defense of his football expertise on a call in line. lol.
Okay. You've somewhat established your ability in repartee, but have yet to argue any of the point's I've made. I will have to assume that I'm correct in my responses to your original thread. If so, I'm glad I was able to help your perspective and you are welcome.
 

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jday;2650207 said:
Okay. You've somewhat established your ability in repartee, but have yet to argue any of the point's I've made. I will have to assume that I'm correct in my responses to your original thread. If so, I'm glad I was able to help your perspective and you are welcome.

I answered your responses. I think every one of them reflected your willingness to take the most positive, and in my opinion, unrealistic, view of what is happening with the Dallas Cowboys. (Which is why I jokingly referred to you as Jerry)

Just one example. What is clearly micromanagement to the extreme, (gagging everyone else in the organization, including the head coach) so much so that you can't even give me ONE example of another team that operates this way, you view as "innovative."

That is all I have to read to know where you are coming from.
 
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