Manziel, If He's There Will Jerry & What Would You Do?

[Doomsday101]

If they have a franchise QB grade on him then of course they should take him. Having said that, they graded Claiborne as the best Corner since Deion so it may or may not be a good idea to follow their franchise logic.

That was more than just the Cowboys. A lot of so called draft experts rated him as the best defensive player in the draft that year.

 

[dboyz]

I would take him. I like the way he plays and think he can do it in the NFL. There is most certainly some risk with the pick, but you don't get that many chances to drafted franchise qb's particularly guys who have the playmaking ability of Johnny.

 

[Nirvana]

Draft
Rodgers was widely projected to be drafted by the San Francisco 49ers, his childhood team, making him the number one overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. The 49ers drafted Alex Smith out of Utah instead and Rodgers slid all the way down to the 24th overall pick by the Green Bay Packers. Rodgers' slip to the 24th selection and the Packers choosing to pick Brett Favre's future replacement became one of the biggest stories of the draft, though he was still the second quarterback selected. His drop in the draft was later ranked number one on the NFL Network's Top 10 Draft Day Moments.

In addition, many teams drafting between the second and 23rd positions had positional needs more pressing than quarterback.[39] Rodgers was one of five other quarterbacks coached by Jeff Tedford to be drafted in the first round, joining Trent Dilfer, Akili Smith, David Carr, Joey Harrington, and Kyle Boller.



I'd like to trade down slightly and then grab Manziel - good scenario there.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If they have a franchise QB grade on him then of course they should take him. Having said that, they graded Claiborne as the best Corner since Deion so it may or may not be a good idea to follow their franchise logic.

So did a lot of other teams. Not only was he a highly rated CB, some considered the best defensive play in the draft.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

No thanks.

Trade down.

No, if nothing else you take him and trade him for more picks.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

The fact that there was nothing there that suggested in any way the Packers were taking Rodgers with the idea he was playing right away. Thompson even mentioned five years re-visiting the value.

Unlike you I was actually alive at the time. Favre had been talking about retiring for three years. They took him to replace Favre sooner and not later. They are not going to come out and say some timetable with a living legend like Favre still on the roster. The expectation was that Favre would likely retire after 2005. Everyone knew this. I will await your next link.

 

[CowboyGil]

IF he falls to 16, take him. BPA, BPA, BPA!!
we need the injection of youth and swagger. add him to the young core on offense.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Yeah, take him.

Just like if I won the lottery I'd take the money.

New problem: How do Tony and Johnny co-exist? It's a good problem to have, but don't expect them to be teammates long-term.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Unlike you I was actually alive at the time. Favre had been talking about retiring for three years. They took him to replace Favre sooner and not later. They are not going to come out and say some timetable with a living legend like Favre still on the roster. The expectation was that Favre would likely retire after 2005. Everyone knew this. I will await your next link.

LOL...... Don't you know that Al is as old as Methuselah?

 

[Alexander]

Unlike you I was actually alive at the time. Favre had been talking about retiring for three years. They took him to replace Favre sooner and not later. They are not going to come out and say some timetable with a living legend like Favre still on the roster. The expectation was that Favre would likely retire after 2005. Everyone knew this. I will await your next link.

Favre was a drama queen who talked about retiring every year. And he kept coming back.

I eagerly await your next version of what actually happened, preferably something tangible from the people involved instead of your perception.

 

[Bcarr#39]

You have to take him(johnny football), Romo is 34 with a bad back he's not getting any younger. Pluse it would also put heat on romo to perform well. Johnny can be our future and romo can show him the Ins and out to be a football player.

 

[gmoney112]

No because hes tim tebow with a slightly better arm. He'll fail miserably.

 

[Nomad]

The problem is he can't sit for 2-3 years. As soon as Romo makes a bad throw every idiot in the stadium is going to be cheering for "Joh-nny, Joh-nny", and he will probably be right along with them. Then when you think about it in that situation if we're heading to say 8-8 or something, what are we doing with a 34 year old starter going nowhere why not start the transition. We also need our 1st round pick to produce in those early years and not waste the cash/pick.

I think if you do take him at 16, you are making the decision right then and there that Romo only has one year left at best. None of this wishy-washy stuff that he can ride the bench for 3 years because it won't work.

 

[Doomsday101]

My concern is the best QB in this draft may not be selected in the 1st rd. There is so much hype on Bridgewater and Manziel and I'm not over convinced either will be top notch NFL QB's

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

My concern is the best QB in this draft may not be selected in the 1st rd. There is so much hype on Bridgewater and Manziel and I'm not over convinced either will be top notch NFL QB's

Neither am I Dooms.

 

[Doomsday101]

Neither am I Dooms.

Thing with Manziel given his night life and by the way loves to play golf if he goes to Dallas get ready to be hammered by the press and fans if he does not rocket to the top from day 1. It is one thing going to Cleveland or Jacksonville hell even Houston and another animal in Dallas. Romo has learned to deal with it and is thick skinned to take the heat and he is no where close to the party life of Manziel. If I could give him advice stay in school another year and develop mentally

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thing with Manziel given his night life and by the way loves to play golf if he goes to Dallas get ready to be hammered by the press and fans if he does not rocket to the top from day 1. It is one thing going to Cleveland or Jacksonville hell even Houston and another animal in Dallas. Romo has learned to deal with it and is thick skinned to take the heat and he is no where close to the party life of Manziel. If I could give him advice stay in school another year and develop mentally

Agree 100%. And Manziel is not poor by any stretch. He could be a guy who just says screw it, I'm going home! LOL....

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Favre was a drama queen who talked about retiring every year. And he kept coming back.

I eagerly await your next version of what actually happened, preferably something tangible from the people involved instead of your perception.

Whoops, ABQ was right... looks like your dementia has set in. You forgot to dig out an old link. I eagerly await your next response confirming you have no idea what you're talking about... in your normal, sarcastic and meek way of course.

 

[Doomsday101]

Agree 100%. And Manziel is not poor by any stretch. He could be a guy who just says screw it, I'm going home! LOL....

I think a lot of young QB make the mistake and come out too early. The pressure at that position is great and it is not just about physical ability they will face a brutal reality at this next level and I think all too often these young QB are not ready for it.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

My concern is the best QB in this draft may not be selected in the 1st rd. There is so much hype on Bridgewater and Manziel and I'm not over convinced either will be top notch NFL QB's

Nobody should be overly convinced but college tape on both speaks for itself. They may turn out to be Tim Tebows but he was given the benefit of the doubt and so should they by going in round 1.