Matt Mosley speculates it's 70/30 we sign Javon Walker

[Chocolate Lab]

Talking about it on 103.3 right now... Says he just talked to some people at Valley Ranch and they say we still have high interest in Walker. He even puts it at a 70% chance that we sign him eventually.

FWIW.

 

[TheCount]

If we take him, does that mean we aren't going to take a WR early in the draft? At that point we'll have two receivers on the roster with bum knees.

 

[Woods]

I wonder if we've already started checking Walker's medical history with his doctors, etc.?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If we take him, does that mean we aren't going to take a WR early in the draft? At that point we'll have two receivers on the roster with bum knees.

Good question. I dont see us carrying 6 WR unless we only carry one FB which is not out of the question.

With Walker you have Owens, Walker, Stanback as definitely in and then you also have Austin, Hurd and possibly Glenn.

If you draft someone you have one or possibly two positions for those three guys.

I honestly think that we are going to hear soon that Glenn is going to need microfracture surgery and will need to retire. The prognosis on the procedure is consistently bad and even then it its a long rehab.

Hurd is a spare. i like him and hes a good ST player and hard worker but he fails to get consistent seperation as he isnt strong, quick or fast enough.

Austin gets seperation and did it consistently last year but unless his hands improve hes a spare too.

i wouldnt hate seeing

TO
Walker
Stanback
Draft pick
Austin.

 

[skinsscalper]

I wonder if we've already started checking Walker's medical history with his doctors, etc.?

In all honesty, I think the medical issue is the only hold up to this entire deal. You've got Shanahan claiming the guy needs micro-fracture surgery and Walker's agent claiming he's healthy as a horse. I'm sure the Cowboys will invest a bit of time investigating the extent of Walker's injury and try to strike a deal.

I don't think I'm real thrilled about bringing a guy on that's that old and playing on bad knees. There's one thing that's for sure though, when the guy is right he can flat out play.

Hard to decide which side of the fence to be on with this one.

 

[tomson75]

If we take him, does that mean we aren't going to take a WR early in the draft? At that point we'll have two receivers on the roster with bum knees.

I highly doubt that taking him would preclude us from taking a WR early in the draft. I doubt we would take one with our first pick regardless, but if Hardy, Doucet or the like are available at 28 I doubt Walker's presence would stop consideration. I also think if he is signed, that its' likely the swan song for Glenn...thus only one receiver on the roster with a bum knee.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

good for us if true.

 

[skinsscalper]

Good question. I dont see us carrying 6 WR unless we only carry one FB which is not out of the question.

With Walker you have Owens, Walker, Stanback as definitely in and then you also have Austin, Hurd and possibly Glenn.

If you draft someone you have one or possibly two positions for those three guys.

I honestly think that we are going to hear soon that Glenn is going to need microfracture surgery and will need to retire. The prognosis on the procedure is consistently bad and even then it its a long rehab.

Hurd is a spare. i like him and hes a good ST player and hard worker but he fails to get consistent seperation as he isnt strong, quick or fast enough.

Austin gets seperation and did it consistently last year but unless his hands improve hes a spare too.

i wouldnt hate seeing

TO
Walker
Stanback
Draft pick
Austin.

You forgot about Crayton. Which, to me, spells the end of Glenn and Hurd if Walker is signed.

We MAY only carry one fullback (as it's not a staple of our offense), but if that was the case, you would have to think that the Cowboys carry another one on the practice squad for an emergency.

 

[gimmesix]

If we take him, does that mean we aren't going to take a WR early in the draft? At that point we'll have two receivers on the roster with bum knees.

I don't think so. We made it to 13-3 with Patrick Crayton starting, so sadly that can be seen as a fallback option. Then, there is the repeated reports that the Cowboys are very high on Stanback's ability.

I think Jones will let it play out if we sign Walker, risking his health with those "options" behind him.

 

[Tobal]

TO, Crayton and Stanbeck are locks (I think) ... They like Hurd and Austin, but how much?

I just can't see keeping Glenn if we sign Walker, how does his salary breakdown?

I would like to see

TO, Walker, Crayton, Stanback, a rookie and the guy they like the best between Hurd and Austin.... depends on if one of these guys or if one of the DB's can return I would think.

 

[Woods]

Good question. I dont see us carrying 6 WR unless we only carry one FB which is not out of the question.

With Walker you have Owens, Walker, Stanback as definitely in and then you also have Austin, Hurd and possibly Glenn.

If you draft someone you have one or possibly two positions for those three guys.

I honestly think that we are going to hear soon that Glenn is going to need microfracture surgery and will need to retire. The prognosis on the procedure is consistently bad and even then it its a long rehab.

Hurd is a spare. i like him and hes a good ST player and hard worker but he fails to get consistent seperation as he isnt strong, quick or fast enough.

Austin gets seperation and did it consistently last year but unless his hands improve hes a spare too.

i wouldnt hate seeing

TO
Walker
Stanback
Draft pick
Austin.

I guess I'd prefer to see

TO
Walker, assuming he's healthy
Crayton - possession receiver
Stanback - speed receiver
Hurd - possession receiver
Draft pick - Hopefully an all around wideout who can develop into a number 1 guy. Hardy possibly.

 

[Tobal]

I don't think so. We made it to 13-3 with Patrick Crayton starting, so sadly that can be seen as a fallback option. Then, there is the repeated reports that the Cowboys are very high on Stanback's ability.

I think Jones will let it play out if we sign Walker, risking his health with those "options" behind him.

I sort of agree with you except if DeSean Jackson is there at 28 and they are happy with the DB they got at 22.... then they might think a great return guy, plus youth and speed at WR might be to tough not to gamble on.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In all honesty, I think the medical issue is the only hold up to this entire deal. You've got Shanahan claiming the guy needs micro-fracture surgery and Walker's agent claiming he's healthy as a horse. I'm sure the Cowboys will invest a bit of time investigating the extent of Walker's injury and try to strike a deal.

I don't think I'm real thrilled about bringing a guy on that's that old and playing on bad knees. There's one thing that's for sure though, when the guy is right he can flat out play.

Hard to decide which side of the fence to be on with this one.

where does it say that he need smicrofracture? i saw where Shanahan said he needed surgery and then had arthroscopic surgery to clean out the knee but havent seen where it says he needs microfracture. if he does then we should really pass.

that surgery never turns out well.

 

[Seven]

I highly doubt that taking him would preclude us from taking a WR early in the draft. I doubt we would take one with our first pick regardless, but if Hardy, Doucet or the like are available at 28 I doubt Walker's presence would stop consideration. I also think if he is signed, that its' likely the swan song for Glenn...thus only one receiver on the roster with a bum knee.

I agree. Nothing wrong with building up a little bullpen. Who knows what Glenn is going to do. We don't want to not draft or pick up any FA on the availability or not, of Glenn. Hurd is kinda slow, Stanback has been a ghost and Austin has been OK. We really don't know much about any of these guys from our armchairs.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I guess I'd prefer to see

TO
Walker, assuming he's healthy
Crayton - possession receiver
Stanback - speed receiver
Hurd - possession receiver
Draft pick - Hopefully an all around wideout who can develop into a number 1 guy. Hardy possibly.

lol i forget Crayton.

TO Walker Crayton Stanback are in that leaves 1 spot for a draft pick and possibly one more sport for Hurd/Austin.


Assuming we sign Walker of course.

 

[WDN]

If we take him, does that mean we aren't going to take a WR early in the draft? At that point we'll have two receivers on the roster with bum knees.

That is exactly what it means. Lately Jerry has been talking about the young receivers and how happy he is with them. Glenn and Walker are the two worse things that could happen to us as far as getting good talent at the WR position.

 

[Woods]

where does it say that he need smicrofracture? i saw where Shanahan said he needed surgery and then had arthroscopic surgery to clean out the knee but havent seen where it says he needs microfracture. if he does then we should really pass.

that surgery never turns out well.

If I remember correctly, there were rumblings out of Denver that Walker needs microfracture surgery within another couple of years. Of course, Walker's agent denies that (as expected).

We'll have to do our own due diligence on Walker very, very carefully.

 

[gimmesix]

I sort of agree with you except if DeSean Jackson is there at 28 and they are happy with the DB they got at 22.... then they might think a great return guy, plus youth and speed at WR might be to tough not to gamble on.

I think it was Gil Brandt over the radio who kind of spilled the not-so-secret beans on Dallas after talking to Jerry Jones that the Cowboys would likely get a free agent at WR, then draft a CB and RB.

Although it might not go according to that plan, I do believe that if we sign a receiver in free agency, then we'll be leaning toward taking a corner and running back with our first two picks, with the possibility of trading down some with one of the picks before taking an RB.

 

[links18]

I wouldn't be surprised to see us carry 7 receivers. We are a pass first team under Garrett.

 

[WDN]

I wouldn't be surprised to see us carry 7 receivers. We are a pass first team under Garrett.

We had to give up Matt Moore just to fit 6 in last year. I would hate to see what we have to give up this year to keep 7. IMO there is no way in the world that we keep 7. This year you also have to figure what you are going to do with Zach and Akin.