McFadden - Demarco

[Jstopper]

What was the point of this post? If it was to simply insinuate that Murray is being misused in Filthy and would be blowing DMC's stats out of the water if he were still in this system, I wholeheartedly agree. Oh & Romo would still be upright too... & we would be leading the division.

Still can't admit that you were blatantly wrong about my boy huh? That's sad.

 

[Jstopper]

Yeah, a projected 800 yds will kill a back.

900 yards when he wasn't the starter for 4 games, and still has 2 left to play. And had .5 of a game with Romo. Sorry but you all underestimated McFadden besides a few of us that caught Hell in the off-season.

 

[DandyDon52]

We didn't get a bargain. The FO got a bargain. Maybe folks are satisfied with McFadden's performance if your only concern is fantasy football, but McFadden simply does not bring what Murray brought last year. McFadden is much better than expected, but the running game is not the staple of our offense like it was last year. We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year, but we should have used that 3rd rounder to draft an rb and let that rb split carries with McFadden.

I dont get the "We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year"
They paid Dez 13 mil a year, with 70 mil G and we see how he helps the team this year.
Crawford is ok DL, and they give him 8-9 mil
And fans were ok with giving murray 6 mil, and current rate for a top RB is 8 mil.
So I dont see why so many discounted murray, and 2 mil one way or the other is not that big of a deal.

The OL liked him, the coaches had faith in him, which helps in play calling, and we knew what we had in him and how
to use him.
Letting Murray get to FA was just plain dumb, and I think fans that think Murray was not worth the 8 mil,
got the season they deserved, 4-10 lol.
Had they signed Murray, things would have played out different and no Romo Injury in philly.
With the div as it was, Dallas would have easily won the div again, had they just kept Murray.

McF has done good, but they are worst in league in 3rd and short, and that killed a lot of drives.

But hey no worries , we will be back to 8-8 next year.

 

[Alohawg1]

A half decent back-up QB, better play calling and McFadden starting from week one and we would be at worst 10-6 and in the playoffs. Heck, even with Moore when Romo went down might have been enough. Some of you guys kill me, just hate giving a man his due if he's not your guy. Would Murray have done more in the same circumstances this year, maybe, pure speculation. It hasn't been the way it was last year and it has more to do with injuries than not having Demarco.
There are plays that Murray would get more yards than McFadden and visa versa. May I remind you, if Murray doesn't fumble in the playoffs, the Cowboys could be defending SB champs right now.

 

[dallasdave]

Well, Chipper.

Looks like you didn't invent football after all.................

 

[Oh_Canada]

What was the point of this post? If it was to simply insinuate that Murray is being misused in Filthy and would be blowing DMC's stats out of the water if he were still in this system, I wholeheartedly agree. Oh & Romo would still be upright too... & we would be leading the division.

Sarcasm right?

 

[Oh_Canada]

We didn't get a bargain. The FO got a bargain. Maybe folks are satisfied with McFadden's performance if your only concern is fantasy football, but McFadden simply does not bring what Murray brought last year. McFadden is much better than expected, but the running game is not the staple of our offense like it was last year. We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year, but we should have used that 3rd rounder to draft an rb and let that rb split carries with McFadden.

Murray doesn't bring what Murray brought last year. He also did what he did with a healthy Romo and Dez btw.

 

[jday]

As of weeks end:
McFadden 208 rushes - 898 yards - 3 TD's.
Murry 176 rushes - 606 yards - 4TD's.

And Murry is the Eagles leading rusher and they benched him. Go figure.

Isn't this like watching a fight on the short bus...I mean, it's kind of entertaining, I guess, but at the end of the day it's still ********.

 

[nathanlt]

As of weeks end:
McFadden 208 rushes - 898 yards - 3 TD's.
Murry 176 rushes - 606 yards - 4TD's.

And Murry is the Eagles leading rusher and they benched him. Go figure.

Well, Murray is costing about more than $10,000 dollars per yard gained, and McFadden is costing Dallas less that $1,500 per yard gained for the annual salary times the ratio of 14of16 games.. Kinda puts things in perspective in terms of bang for the buck.

Also, how much players get paid.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I wonder if the people that think we used up Murray last year think we used up an older more fragile player in McFadden?

This has been the third biggest workload in his whole career.

He isn't going to approach Murray's 2014 workload and the financial investment is minimal. In other words it doesn't matter.

McFadden is unlikely to be the lead back next year regardless.

 

[Alexander]

He isn't going to approach Murray's 2014 workload and the financial investment is minimal. In other words it doesn't matter.

McFadden is unlikely to be the lead back next year regardless.

If you believe our owner/GM, he is the man. We won't have to "walk on egg shells" with him this time.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

If you believe our owner/GM, he is the man. We won't have to "walk on egg shells" with him this time.

Why do people listen to anything any GM says in December about next year's roster...jerry or otherwise.

 

[Alexander]

Why do people listen to anything any GM says in December about next year's roster...jerry or otherwise.

I hear this every year.

Yet nobody goes back and spot checks.

Honestly, Jones telegraphs a lot more than people think.

I guess they are so used to him lying to them about the team's prospects that they extend that to lying about the team's intentions.

 

[Bleu Star]

Still can't admit that you were blatantly wrong about my boy huh? That's sad.

My good sir, I was 100% right about Demarco. But you (& whoever else) keep using the Eagles treatment as some way to support your dislike which ultimately leads to your slant. (amusing to say the least)

1. Letting Demarco go was one of the worst moves in Dallas Cowboys history.

2. Chip was a dummy for signing Demarco just to keep him from Dallas without having any idea how he would ultimately fit into his offense (this will get him fired by season's end).

3. Demarco would have no less that 1200 yards at this point in the season if he were still here clicking behind this oline masking Linehan's deficiencies. DMC does not compare in the area of continuity. Yes continuity. .. see #4 for more info.

4. Romo would still be upright and leading this team to a NFC East title and a nice playoff run if Demarco were still here. Demarco was not only a beast when handed the ball. He was also a beast in the area of "consistently" protecting his quarterback. There would be less substitution at the RB position due to the level of comfort enjoyed with Demarco in the backfield and Romo would still be standing today.

Now sir... Debate that all you want and call me whatever you'd like but I stake my claim on those four variables and nothing will change that.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I wonder if the people that think we used up Murray last year think we used up an older more fragile player in McFadden?

This has been the third biggest workload in his whole career.

Murray had 436 carries last year. The fear with him is that horrible history of RB's, not named Eric Dickerson, after seasons of more than 380 carries.

McFadden has 208 carries this season. He's averaging about 13 carries a game his past 4 games...so the Cowboys seem to be giving him less carries to conserve him unlike they did with Murray last season. I figure...30 carries in the next 2 games. That would put him in the 235-240 carries for the season. Murray was also 'fragile' before last season.

The comparison just isn't very valid.





YR

 

[coach steele]

As of weeks end:
McFadden 208 rushes - 898 yards - 3 TD's.
Murry 176 rushes - 606 yards - 4TD's.

And Murry is the Eagles leading rusher and they benched him. Go figure.

A better stat would have been:
McFadden 4.3 yards per carry
Murray 3.4 yards per carry

Everyone has created a legend based off of one terrific year. He was aided by a very good offensive line and a very good QB.

 

[Nightman]

I dont get the "We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year"
They paid Dez 13 mil a year, with 70 mil G and we see how he helps the team this year.
Crawford is ok DL, and they give him 8-9 mil
And fans were ok with giving murray 6 mil, and current rate for a top RB is 8 mil.
So I dont see why so many discounted murray, and 2 mil one way or the other is not that big of a deal.

The OL liked him, the coaches had faith in him, which helps in play calling, and we knew what we had in him and how
to use him.
Letting Murray get to FA was just plain dumb, and I think fans that think Murray was not worth the 8 mil,
got the season they deserved, 4-10 lol.
Had they signed Murray, things would have played out different and no Romo Injury in philly.
With the div as it was, Dallas would have easily won the div again, had they just kept Murray.

McF has done good, but they are worst in league in 3rd and short, and that killed a lot of drives.

But hey no worries , we will be back to 8-8 next year.

But fumbles, looking for contact and no homer run speed......dee de deeeee......set team and NFL records and get sent packing for a never-was, JJones crush....

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I hear this every year.

Yet nobody goes back and spot checks.

Honestly, Jones telegraphs a lot more than people think.

I guess they are so used to him lying to them about the team's prospects that they extend that to lying about the team's intentions.

Could you name all these things he telegraphed?


But hey... Let's wait and see of no comp is brought in for dmac.

 

[Alexander]

Murray had 436 carries last year. The fear with him is that horrible history of RB's, not named Eric Dickerson, after seasons of more than 380 carries.

McFadden has 208 carries this season. He's averaging about 13 carries a game his past 4 games...so the Cowboys seem to be giving him less carries to conserve him unlike they did with Murray last season. I figure...30 carries in the next 2 games. That would put him in the 235-240 carries for the season. Murray was also 'fragile' before last season.

The comparison just isn't very valid.]

I was not comparing sheer volume.

This is more work than McFadden has ever received.

I see no reason to conclude he will be right as rain to be our starter next year.

 

[Nightman]

Murray had 436 carries last year. The fear with him is that horrible history of RB's, not named Eric Dickerson, after seasons of more than 380 carries.

McFadden has 208 carries this season. He's averaging about 13 carries a game his past 4 games...so the Cowboys seem to be giving him less carries to conserve him unlike they did with Murray last season. I figure...30 carries in the next 2 games. That would put him in the 235-240 carries for the season. Murray was also 'fragile' before last season.

The comparison just isn't very valid.





YR

What I don't get is that the plan was for Randle to handle the load this year but last year he wasn't
good enough to take another 100 carries from Murray and keep everyone fresh.

Why was he good enough this year but not last year? Because the FO and especially JJones got cute and decided they were going to save some cash and sell the fanbase a bill of goods that intentionally downgrading the RB was a good plan.