McFadden - Demarco

[SportsGuru80]

With Romo in a full season, McFadden would have had over 1,200 yards

 

[DandyDon52]

1.A half decent back-up QB, better play calling and McFadden starting from week one and we would be at worst 10-6 and in the playoffs. Heck, even with Moore when Romo went down might have been enough. Some of you guys kill me, just hate giving a man his due if he's not your guy. Would Murray have done more in the same circumstances this year, maybe, pure speculation. It hasn't been the way it was last year and it has more to do with injuries than not having Demarco.
There are plays that Murray would get more yards than McFadden and visa versa. 2.May I remind you, if Murray doesn't fumble in the playoffs, the Cowboys could be defending SB champs right now.

1.So we should be 10-6 or better next year easily is that what your saying?
If McF had started week 1 he might be hurt or banged up by now, he might not have lasted.
2. people obsess on that fumble, many players whiffed in that game and the coaches, and I think we had the lead after that fumble, so
you cant just blame the fumble. Martin whiffed on his block of peppers is why he got to murray from behind.

Really it is all "pure speculation" and bottom line they got rid of Murray and it threw the wrench in the wheel, after that it was a domino effect.

 

[coach steele]

Every one discounts the fact that Murray was a very strong back before we assembled the one year best O line in football.

He was a good back who was injury prone until last year. He then had 400+ touches, which combined with going to a scheme that doesn't fit him, has limited his production. Everyone forgets that there were threads about replacing him before his 1 monster season. In any case, special players enhance any scheme. Good players are enhanced by a specific scheme.

 

[tyke1doe]

I blame Garrett.

Oh wait, this isn't another bash Garrett thread? Oops my bad.

I laughed.

 

[tyke1doe]

We didn't get a bargain. The FO got a bargain. Maybe folks are satisfied with McFadden's performance if your only concern is fantasy football, but McFadden simply does not bring what Murray brought last year. McFadden is much better than expected, but the running game is not the staple of our offense like it was last year. We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year, but we should have used that 3rd rounder to draft an rb and let that rb split carries with McFadden.

In hindsight, you're right. We should have moved up to draft David Johnson or picked Jeremy Langford or Buck Allen.

Hopefully, we don't make the same mistake in 2016.

 

[robjay04]

We didn't get a bargain. The FO got a bargain. Maybe folks are satisfied with McFadden's performance if your only concern is fantasy football, but McFadden simply does not bring what Murray brought last year. McFadden is much better than expected, but the running game is not the staple of our offense like it was last year. We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year, but we should have used that 3rd rounder to draft an rb and let that rb split carries with McFadden.

No the running game is not as good as last season but nor would it have been if Murray was here. Demarco Murray is not Adrian Peterson, he doesn't create and carry an offense on his own like Peterson has done in the past. Without a respectful passing game, Murray would have had a similar season that McFadden is having...I believe McFadden is on pace for about 1300 yards if you take the games he has started and stretch them over a whole season, I would suspect Murray would have had a similar season under identical circumstances.

I believe our best day running the ball this season was against the Dolphins as far as being able to rely on it late in the game to seal a win. Romo had a lot to do with that.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Ryan Mathews is simply a better player than Murray regardless of scheme.

 

[mahoneybill]

Ryan Mathews is simply a better player than Murray regardless of scheme.

Murray made his $$$ decision. That's his choice. He has to be dejected with 2 carries 3 yards despite any comment he/team may make to the contrary.

Always found him to be an articulate team guy. This one was about the money. That side paid off. The on field accomplishment didn't.

 

[EPL0c0]

We didn't get a bargain. The FO got a bargain. Maybe folks are satisfied with McFadden's performance if your only concern is fantasy football, but McFadden simply does not bring what Murray brought last year. McFadden is much better than expected, but the running game is not the staple of our offense like it was last year. We were right in letting Murray go for 8 million a year, but we should have used that 3rd rounder to draft an rb and let that rb split carries with McFadden.

Cowboys are #10 in rushing. (Philly #13, Washington #20, NYGiants #24)

I'm actually surprised that the run game did this well w/o the benefit of Romo's skill set and how he improves the run game w/ his play. It really does show that this year was a big missed opportunity.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Ryan Mathews is simply a better player than Murray regardless of scheme.

I said that when they signed Matthews. Made no sense to sign both, when they are essentially equal at best.

 

[plasticman]

Murray was also the 3rd leading receiver overall during the 4 years he was here.

It's a no brainer to assume that Murray would not repeat his record breaking season playing for the Cowboy just as it is to assume that Romo would never have been so frequently exposed to aggressive pass rushes on 2nd and 3rd downs. That alone would have justified his contract.

It's also safe to assume that the mutual familiarity between him and the offensive line would have made them both far more effective than either has been this season.

The fact that Romo became the #1 ranked QB last season while throwing the fewest passes in his non-injury years should be an indication of additional value for Murray.

Combine this with his obvious leadership qualities and professional demeanor and you have a guy that you don't have to worry about in the off season. He won't be arrested, thrown out of strip clubs or accused of improper behavior.

Events over the past 2-3 seasons demonstrate that missing 20% of your games as a RB is no indication of being injury prone, its just a normal part of being a starting NFL back.

 

[gimmesix]

As of weeks end:
McFadden 208 rushes - 898 yards - 3 TD's.
Murry 176 rushes - 606 yards - 4TD's.

And Murry is the Eagles leading rusher and they benched him. Go figure.

You know Murray really has to be regretting going to the Eagles, even if he doesn't say so publicly.

I know players and agents only see dollar signs, but they really need to do a better job at looking at the whole picture. It was easy to see before Murray signed with Philty that his running style was not a fit for the Eagles' running scheme.

 

[gimmesix]

How different would the totals be of McFadden got Randles carries to begin the season

His numbers obviously would be higher, but I think he would have struggled YPC-wise. It took him a while to figure out how to run in this offense, showing too much hesitation in those first few games, and he is still inconsistent because he doesn't always hit the hole with power and speed.

And I say this as someone who has been pleasantly surprised overall by McFadden's production.

 

[ringmaster]

Murray made his $$$ decision. That's his choice. He has to be dejected with 2 carries 3 yards despite any comment he/team may make to the contrary.

Always found him to be an articulate team guy. This one was about the money. That side paid off. The on field accomplishment didn't.

Great observation post I feel the same way about the Murray situation he and Philly got what they paid for.

 

[Longboysfan]

Well Eagles are on the hook for $13,000,000 to Murry if they cut him next year.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'll be honest it doesn't mean much to me.

Murray in a Chip Kelly offense is a square peg in a round hole.

I suspect he would have ran for 1400-1500 for the Cowboys this year.

Oh well...

Possibly so.

But given the way McFadden has played since he became the full time starter, and main ball carrier, if he'd been in that roll since day one I think he would have had about 1200-1300 yards right now.

He didn't become the starter, or main guy, until like 6 or 8 weeks into the season. So if he'd been given the ball like that all year long I think he'd probably be around that 1200-1300 yard mark.

 

[EPL0c0]

Well Eagles are on the hook for $13,000,000 to Murry if they cut him next year.

I think Chip & Lurie would be willing to take the hit if they can send him out of the division (CLE, JAX, MIA, etc)