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the FO and especially JJones got cute and decided they were going to save some cash and sell the fanbase a bill of goods that intentionally downgrading the RB was a good plan.
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My good sir, I was 100% right about Demarco. But you (& whoever else) keep using the Eagles treatment as some way to support your dislike which ultimately leads to your slant. (amusing to say the least)

1. Letting Demarco go was one of the worst moves in Dallas Cowboys history.

2. Chip was a dummy for signing Demarco just to keep him from Dallas without having any idea how he would ultimately fit into his offense (this will get him fired by season's end).

3. Demarco would have no less that 1200 yards at this point in the season if he were still here clicking behind this oline masking Linehan's deficiencies. DMC does not compare in the area of continuity. Yes continuity. .. see #4 for more info.

4. Romo would still be upright and leading this team to a NFC East title and a nice playoff run if Demarco were still here. Demarco was not only a beast when handed the ball. He was also a beast in the area of "consistently" protecting his quarterback. There would be less substitution at the RB position due to the level of comfort enjoyed with Demarco in the backfield and Romo would still be standing today.

Now sir... Debate that all you want and call me whatever you'd like but I stake my claim on those four variables and nothing will change that.

1,3,4 are nothing but your opinion there are no facts associated with those statements and no way to play what if And see how they would have turned out. Meanwhile I am dealing with real life, and in reality McFadden is outrushing Murray as I said all off-season long that he would. Now you can make whatever excuse you want as to why he is being outrushed but fact of the matter is he is being outrushed by a good margin. And if kelly is such an idiot and didn't know how to use demarco why were you and so many others so scared of their pairing up? I remember so many threads "Murray is perfect for eagles system" "he will do what McCoy couldn't" "he's gonna put up another 1800 behind the eagles vaunted line" Of course now that he has crashed and burned the narrative is suddenly Murray was never a fit for the eagles system? Lolol okay. Oh and I remember McFadden was supposed to be injured by game 4 and out the rest of the season and his 3.3 ypc were all he was gonna be good for. And yet McFadden has missed no games meanwhile the man of steel in Philly has. McFadden is averaging 4.3 while Murray is down at 3.4. And now you wanna take away the actual work McFadden has done and argue Murray "would have done" such and such? No way sir. He was a one hit wonder who has made by our offensive line and you chip Kelly and so many fans were duped into thinking he was irreplaceable. And that's what I stake my claim on.
 

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1,3,4 are nothing but your opinion there are no facts associated with those statements and no way to play what if And see how they would have turned out. Meanwhile I am dealing with real life, and in reality McFadden is outrushing Murray as I said all off-season long that he would. Now you can make whatever excuse you want as to why he is being outrushed but fact of the matter is he is being outrushed by a good margin. And if kelly is such an idiot and didn't know how to use demarco why were you and so many others so scared of their pairing up? I remember so many threads "Murray is perfect for eagles system" "he will do what McCoy couldn't" "he's gonna put up another 1800 behind the eagles vaunted line" Of course now that he has crashed and burned the narrative is suddenly Murray was never a fit for the eagles system? Lolol okay. Oh and I remember McFadden was supposed to be injured by game 4 and out the rest of the season and his 3.3 ypc were all he was gonna be good for. And yet McFadden has missed no games meanwhile the man of steel in Philly has. McFadden is averaging 4.3 while Murray is down at 3.4. And now you wanna take away the actual work McFadden has done and argue Murray "would have done" such and such? No way sir. He was a one hit wonder who has made by our offensive line and you chip Kelly and so many fans were duped into thinking he was irreplaceable. And that's what I stake my claim on.

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1,3,4 are nothing but your opinion there are no facts associated with those statements and no way to play what if And see how they would have turned out. Meanwhile I am dealing with real life, and in reality McFadden is outrushing Murray as I said all off-season long that he would. Now you can make whatever excuse you want as to why he is being outrushed but fact of the matter is he is being outrushed by a good margin. And if kelly is such an idiot and didn't know how to use demarco why were you and so many others so scared of their pairing up? I remember so many threads "Murray is perfect for eagles system" "he will do what McCoy couldn't" "he's gonna put up another 1800 behind the eagles vaunted line" Of course now that he has crashed and burned the narrative is suddenly Murray was never a fit for the eagles system? Lolol okay. Oh and I remember McFadden was supposed to be injured by game 4 and out the rest of the season and his 3.3 ypc were all he was gonna be good for. And yet McFadden has missed no games meanwhile the man of steel in Philly has. McFadden is averaging 4.3 while Murray is down at 3.4. And now you wanna take away the actual work McFadden has done and argue Murray "would have done" such and such? No way sir. He was a one hit wonder who has made by our offensive line and you chip Kelly and so many fans were duped into thinking he was irreplaceable. And that's what I stake my claim on.

Murray had 5722 yards and 29 TDs for DAL in 4 years. That is about as far from a one hit wonder who was made by our OL as possible.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your story.
 

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But fumbles, looking for contact and no homer run speed......dee de deeeee......set team and NFL records and get sent packing for a never-was, JJones crush....
The bolded is the key, and yet not worth the $ ?? The fumble issue could be corrected,with better coaching, the speed was not needed
if your setting records, and the team is winning.
Winning was another key.
You dont not sign the guy who just broke 50 year old nfl records.

To JG's credit he wanted to get murray signed, Romo pleaded to sign Murray and the jones boys didnt get it done.

They probably could have got harris to stay if they let him play WR more.
I think Durant and sterling moore were worth keeping too.
 

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Murray had 5722 yards and 29 TDs for DAL in 4 years. That is about as far from a one hit wonder who was made by our OL as possible.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your story.

You're wasting your breath Luke. :D The blind hatred is strong. The force can't even help.
 

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What I don't get is that the plan was for Randle to handle the load this year but last year he wasn't
good enough to take another 100 carries from Murray and keep everyone fresh.

Why was he good enough this year but not last year? Because the FO and especially JJones got cute and decided they were going to save some cash and sell the fanbase a bill of goods that intentionally downgrading the RB was a good plan.

How many 'sources' and 'experts' told us that Murray 'left a lot of meat on that bone!' How many fans griped up and down about Murray fumbling last year?

Jerry's hand was forced because the coaching staff couldn't be bothered to give Murray a rest. If Murray had 360 carries instead of 436 carries...that would still be 20 carries a game (includes the playoffs). He would have not put up the numbers and would be a much more viable player to re-sign at the number he got.

I don't think Jerry 'got cute.' I'm willing to bet that since the Cowboys employ a statistician, they were probably notified of what Murray's prospects. And because the coaching staff couldn't conserve Murray...it played out as such.




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Murray had 5722 yards and 29 TDs for DAL in 4 years. That is about as far from a one hit wonder who was made by our OL as possible.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your story.

He had his all pro year his other three were decent. And he was injured every one of Those years. Those are your facts.
 

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The bolded is the key, and yet not worth the $ ?? The fumble issue could be corrected,with better coaching, the speed was not needed
if your setting records, and the team is winning.
Winning was another key.
You dont not sign the guy who just broke 50 year old nfl records.

To JG's credit he wanted to get murray signed, Romo pleaded to sign Murray and the jones boys didnt get it done.

They probably could have got harris to stay if they let him play WR more.
I think Durant and sterling moore were worth keeping too.

And if you take McFadden's yards this season and DOUBLE them, he is still short of Murray's total.

We were 13-4 and looking good. Now we are 4-10 and looking for a draft pick.

But we can carry over 5m in salary cap room to next year.
 

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And if you take McFadden's yards this season and DOUBLE them, he is still short of Murray's total.

We were 13-4 and looking good. Now we are 4-10 and looking for a draft pick.

But we can carry over 5m in salary cap room to next year.

Denial is a river. That's why we're going on 20 years without a Lombardi. Some of our fellow fans have completely bought into the FO's modus operandi.
 

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He had his all pro year his other three were decent. And he was injured every one of Those years. Those are your facts.

Oh now they are decent. For his 3 bad seasons he averaged almost 1200 yards.
 

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897 in 2011, 663 in 2012, 1121 in 2013. In what universe does that add up to averaging almost 1200 yards?

So a 900 yard average per year prior to the explosion = one hit wonder? Hmmm. Interesting.
 

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I just feel you're disrespecting McFadden while hyping up Murray. The entire off-season you wrote McFadden off as an afterthought and he's come in here and outdid all of your guys expecatation and didn't get to play even 1 whole game with Romo.
 

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As of weeks end:
McFadden 208 rushes - 898 yards - 3 TD's.
Murry 176 rushes - 606 yards - 4TD's.

And Murry is the Eagles leading rusher and they benched him. Go figure.

These numbers are useless to compare. But it does prove that Murray DID NOT deserve the contract he received and I couldn't be happier that Jerry did NOT match that contract. Say no to RBs going into a second big money contract
 

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I just feel you're disrespecting McFadden while hyping up Murray. The entire off-season you wrote McFadden off as an afterthought and he's come in here and outdid all of your guys expecatation and didn't get to play even 1 whole game with Romo.

Let's keep it real here. I like McFadden. He has surprisingly been serviceable. That said, (this is where your mind will drift again.. I understand) he has not meant half of what Demarco meant to this offense in terms of locker room presence, consistency, and the innate ability to place the team on his back seemingly at just the right moments. But it's nice to know DMC is holding up. Hooray. 5-11 here we come.
 
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