McGregor vs Mayweather

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Every single one of those guys would be on the ground and choked out in seconds. Just like what happened to James Toney. Or worse. Ground and pounded into the dirt.

You don't know real fighting. You know half a fighting at best.

I'm not sure why it's some sort of big point that a guy that has never trained grappling in his life would be out grappled by someone that has.

It's like comparing a speed skater to a hockey player and insisting that one is a better skater than the other when the goals, training, techniques, and philosophies are completely different.
 

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Plus the science of it in due course..... i am out of here those that never......wasting my time ..... Jwitten82 respect for your posts though in this thread
Have you ever read "The Sweet Science" A.J Liebling. Great stuff. There is no way to compare the subtle beauty and discipline and integrity of boxing to schoolyard fighting.
 

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The thing is ....it doesn't have to be either or

MMA has its strong points
Boxing has its strong points

Instead of always down grading each other they should team up and do some cross promotional events
 

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Losses 1 <----- technically not in that fight he wasn't... was he now....
He fought a killer in his second pro fight ever. And he was competitive the whole fight. Many people said he shouldn't have even taken that fight so early. But contrary to many of these up n comers who fight cans to pad their records.. Loma fights the best. P4P no one comes close
 

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Connor never learned to box. Couldn't clinch to save himself and never learned to set his feet to punch. His training for a boxing match just wasn't there and he was tired after the 4th. It was a mugging of an amateur by an aging boxer.
You make a great point about the lack of footwork. I think he was so caught up in trying to make himself "unpredictable" and show off how he was ambidextrous and all that (changing lefty and righty multiple times per round and all that smoke and mirror) while never really being able to set his feet and throw a proper jab/cross/hook/uppercut. Shockingly, none of his punches appeared to have any sort of sting on them from the opening bell. Granted, Floyd has a history of making good punchers look off (his fight with Canelo was incredibly awkward to watch) but Connor didn't appear at all to be rooted in any boxing fundamentals...despite having been introduced to fighting at a famous Dublin boxing club and being known as a striker obviously. I heard pre-fight commentary (about a week ago or so) where the guy gave some interesting insight into the biggest adjustment for Connor coming into this match. He said that Connor usually sets up his hand strikes with kicks or at least THE THREAT of a kick. If you watched the second Diaz fight, it was Connor's front leg kick to Diaz that set up the rest of the fight for him (including the damage he was able to do with his punches to the head). In fact, I'd say that in his second Diaz fight, Connor was somewhat Muay Thai in his approach to breaking down the bigger Diaz. Take out the legs and then punish the head and body. It appears that, without his full arsenal, he wasn't even HALF a fighter last night...more like a third or even a fourth.

Hey...he's set for life now...so he can party like a rockstar and do whatever he wants. I doubt going back to MMA will be in the cards for long. Maybe he can be a promoter? He certainly has a flair for the sensational!
 

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Real boxers know to slip punches better than wrestlers and they have been hit 100s of times and can learn to take it....... Mac has a good punch but is still 160 lbs....... Middleweights still use quantity over quality for the most part
Ok. Now I am thinking you're sort of crazy for real. Middleweights have provided some of the hardest hitters in boxing history!!! And in another post you called Roy Jones a boring fighter?!! Brah...get a grip and come back to reality. Saying such outrageously and clearly misguided comments just makes you sound like you've got some sort of vendetta. You have lost all objectivity and it's not even remotely subtle any more. No one can take you seriously at this point.
 

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LOL boxing has been terrible since all the heavyweight classics left.
Boxing, one dimensional dancing and let the judges decide. It's not fighting. I can see people liking it for the same reasons people like figure skating but fighting it's not.

You clearly have no clue about boxing. GGG, Ward, Crawford etc are hardly one dimensional or looking for judges to decide things. That is as dumb as if some one said all MMA fighters want to do is hug or roll around together so they don't get hit.
 

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Personally I enjoyed watching a "big event" boxing match last night moreso than I would have UFC. I think the UFC craze has slightly lost its appeal and has oversaturated the market. For awhile you had all these fans walking around in TAPOUT shirts thinking they were legendary fighters because they watched the sport when most of them have never been in a real street fight. lol
 

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Ok. Now I am thinking you're sort of crazy for real. Middleweights have provided some of the hardest hitters in boxing history!!! And in another post you called Roy Jones a boring fighter?!! Brah...get a grip and come back to reality. Saying such outrageously and clearly misguided comments just makes you sound like you've got some sort of vendetta. You have lost all objectivity and it's not even remotely subtle any more. No one can take you seriously at this point.
you got me mixed up with some one else BRAH...... I never mentioned Roy Jones

Middleweights are still boxers over sluggers compared to the big boys

You need to get a grip
 

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I learned in this thread today that middleweight boxers aren't really hard punchers. Cue the major eye roll please...


Nice pull out of your rear

if you think Middleweights are known as One Punch fighters more than heavyweights you don't know half of what you think

Buster Douglas had a chance because he had real power and caught Tyson
McGregor never had that puncher's chance

Historically Tommy Hearns had a giant punch but the rest of them were all around boxers with power and speed ....they would throw 80 punches a round..... that is why they were always the best fights.......boxing and slugging...... but they still couldn't bang with the big boys like Tyson

If you would calm down and read before the diarrhea starts spewing from your mouth you might understand what I wrote
 

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You clearly have no clue about boxing.

clearly i do, because when I watch it these days....I get bored...and feel ripped off if i paid money to watch it.
Boxing nowadays is a sport and if you like it, that's fine...some folks like ice skating and curling too,....but don't mistake it for real 'fight' if that's what you want to see
 

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you got me mixed up with some one else BRAH...... I never mentioned Roy Jones

Middleweights are still boxers over sluggers compared to the big boys

You need to get a grip
Oh. My bad if I got your crazy talk mixed up with someone else's. After a minute or so urs just started to sound like everybody else's. I'm sure you can forgive my confusion.
 

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Nice pull out of your rear

if you think Middleweights are known as One Punch fighters more than heavyweights you don't know half of what you think

Buster Douglas had a chance because he had real power and caught Tyson
McGregor never had that puncher's chance

Historically Tommy Hearns had a giant punch but the rest of them were all around boxers with power and speed ....they would throw 80 punches a round..... that is why they were always the best fights.......boxing and slugging...... but they still couldn't bang with the big boys like Tyson

If you would calm down and read before the diarrhea starts spewing from your mouth you might understand what I wrote
Never said one punch. Your extreme views tho are without merit. And I pulled that from memory chief. Anyone that has your ignorance that talks so much out of his arse must think everyone else on planet earth takes the same approach. You're unique in that way brah. Some might say "special."
 

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He fought a killer in his second pro fight ever. And he was competitive the whole fight. Many people said he shouldn't have even taken that fight so early. But contrary to many of these up n comers who fight cans to pad their records.. Loma fights the best. P4P no one comes close
I will go have a look at his fights and the loss which was shrouded with controversy.

I still have Crawford as my personal p4p @ 32 straight
 
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