McNabb answers critical column from NAACP leader

[aikemirv]

But when someone of the same race talks about you because you're selling out because you're not running the ball, it goes back to what are we really talking about here?

To me this statement by McNabb says "it cannot be racism because he is black" - ........"it goes back to what are we really talking about here" -- to me means that there must be some other motive than a racist comment and he is not sure what it could be.

Maybe I am wrong in the interpretation.

 

[DrunkWithPower]

I think he meant McNabb should have taken less money so others could get more, but that's a very stupid assertion. For one, it's the organization that negotiates the contracts. If they offered him a 110 million, who the heck are we to say he should have said, "Give me less please.". Also, TO's contract is only a year old and wasn't going to be renegotiated anyway. I also believe the Eagles are below the cap anyway so they could give people more money if they wanted, but it's obvious they don't care. Last, I think it's funny he even mentioned giving more money to anyone else - I think McNabb is one of the classiest players in the league and deserves the money he gets. Heck I wouldn't give TO anything! Lol.

I also think racism if racism no matter what color you are. The fact he's an officer in the NAACP should be even more disturbing. Why can't we just all get along? Hehe...

PS...I STILL HATE THE EAGLES!

Go Cowboys!

 

[Mike 1967]

I just want to know if Mondesire will have to step down for his racist remarks as Rush did at ESPN. As McNabb pointed out "Obviously if it's someone else who is not African-American, it's racism."

Nope...because we have double standards in this country

 

[Mike 1967]

He's just saying that when a non-AA says something racist its clearly seen as racist and the guy is called out on it. When an AA, however, says something racist people don't jump on him. Meaning, people should jump on this guy for being a racist. Even though he's AA and a member of the NAACP he should still be shunned for his racist comments.

Good points

But...I thought that the NAACP was a "racist organization". IMO, Any organization, that is based on race......is by it's own definition, rascist.

 

[AtlCB]

But when someone of the same race talks about you because you're selling out because you're not running the ball, it goes back to what are we really talking about here?

To me this statement by McNabb says "it cannot be racism because he is black" - ........"it goes back to what are we really talking about here" -- to me means that there must be some other motive than a racist comment and he is not sure what it could be.

Maybe I am wrong in the interpretation.

I think you are missing the point of what McNabb is trying to say. He believes that everyone should have the same outrage over this as they did with the Rush Limburger comment. The writer made race the real issue of the article that he wrote.

McNabb is probably getting tired of race constantly being involved in the discussion about how good of a quarterback. He wants to be known as a quarterback and not an African-American or black quarterback. As much as I dislike the Eagles, I have to side with him on this one.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nope...because we have double standards in this country

Because people create the double standard. I don't I treat every person as an individual which is what we are. No one person or organization represents an entire race of people.

 

[theogt]

Good points

But...I thought that the NAACP was a "racist organization". IMO, Any organization, that is based on race......is by it's own definition, rascist.

I never said it wasn't.

 

[Mike 1967]

I think that the fault of Mondeshire, and many others, is that he has taken this sport beyond what it actually is.

At then end of the day we are talking about football. But there are many that want to turn it into some kind of racial banner. And many times is African Americans that do this.

There appears to be this added pressure for black QB's in todays NFL. Thiers becomes a political and racial statement that goes well beyond the confines of simply being a QB.

I have always believed that Quincy Carter was at a disadvantage because of the amount of pressure that was placed on him due to this issue. There were many who appeared to look on him as a "racial hero" as much, or morso than just the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys.

There is enough pressure that comes with the QB position......but guys like McNabb and Quincy have to shoulder greater pressure because of "racial issue's. If a black QB fails...then there it is deemed as a political and racial failure by those who look on them as hero's for racial reasons.

I don't believe that this pressure impacts McNabb....although one could argue that it has had an impact. And that it will have an impact as statements like this begin to come from political groups like the NAACP.

But I do believe this pressure was to much for Quincy to bear....and could very well have had much to do with his failure to consistently perform under the stressful requirements of the job. I think QC cracked....and I think he cracked because many put to much into his success or failure on the football field.

Anyway...that is my 2 cents. Blast away

 

[Mike 1967]

I never said it wasn't.

I know...I was just using your comments (which I agreed with) as a springboard for my post/comment.

 

[Mike 1967]

Because people create the double standard. I don't I treat every person as an individual which is what we are. No one person or organization represents an entire race of people.

I agree on all counts.

And I also think that we need more people like you in this country.

 

[Paniolo22]

McNabb was a running QB, like Vick, that decided it's better to be a passing QB and not take a pounding running the ball. It was a business decision, but portrayed arogantly by McNabb always making sure people KNEW he was a QB first, not a runner. I don't blame him for not wanting to get blasted every other play, but remember how livid we would get when Quincy would try and throw for a first instead of run for it when it was there? Do what you do best and stick with it. He is definitely a better running QB than throwing QB. Just ask the damaged field turf with the skid marks on the ground and they'll tell you. "Please run Donovan"

 

[Doomsday101]

I think that the fault of Mondeshire, and many others, is that he has taken this sport beyond what it actually is.

At then end of the day we are talking about football. But there are many that want to turn it into some kind of racial banner. And many times is African Americans that do this.

There appears to be this added pressure for black QB's in todays NFL. Thiers becomes a political and racial statement that goes well beyond the confines of simply being a QB.

I have always believed that Quincy Carter was at a disadvantage because of the amount of pressure that was placed on him due to this issue. There were many who appeared to look on him as a "racial hero" as much, or morso than just the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys.

There is enough pressure that comes with the QB position......but guys like McNabb and Quincy have to shoulder greater pressure because of "racial issue's. If a black QB fails...then there it is deemed as a political and racial failure by those who look on them as hero's for racial reasons.

I don't believe that this pressure impacts McNabb....although one could argue that it has had an impact. And that it will have an impact as statements like this begin to come from political groups like the NAACP.

But I do believe this pressure was to much for Quincy to bear....and could very well have had much to do with his failure to consistently perform under the stressful requirements of the job. I think QC cracked....and I think he cracked because many put to much into his success or failure on the football field.

Anyway...that is my 2 cents. Blast away

For the most part I agree with you. On Carter I think he just could not handle any real pressure and maybe your right about the added pressure of being a black QB be it real or not.

 

[Alexander]

But I do believe this pressure was to much for Quincy to bear....and could very well have had much to do with his failure to consistently perform under the stressful requirements of the job. I think QC cracked....and I think he cracked because many put to much into his success or failure on the football field.

Anyway...that is my 2 cents. Blast away

Carter got defended (and attacked) primarily because of his race in many cases. Whether it is admitted or not, many saw that as a reason for criticism and/or hero worship.

But the fact that he cracked when others succeeded just demonstrated that he was weak-willed, not a victim like you appear to be painting him as.

 

[Doomsday101]

McNabb was a running QB, like Vick, that decided it's better to be a passing QB and not take a pounding running the ball. It was a business decision, but portrayed arogantly by McNabb always making sure people KNEW he was a QB first, not a runner. I don't blame him for not wanting to get blasted every other play, but remember how livid we would get when Quincy would try and throw for a first instead of run for it when it was there? Do what you do best and stick with it. He is definitely a better running QB than throwing QB. Just ask the damaged field turf with the skid marks on the ground and they'll tell you. "Please run Donovan"

I think McNabb wants to be an all around QB, a guy who can run when he has to but work from the pocket just as well. Steve Young had to do the same thing, when he 1st took over for Montana he ran at the drop of a hat but he became a much better QB when he could work from the pocket and use his mobility when he had to.

 

[Mike 1967]

Carter got defended (and attacked) primarily because of his race in many cases. Whether it is admitted or not, many saw that as a reason for criticism and/or hero worship.

But the fact that he cracked when others succeeded just demonstrated that he was weak-willed, not a victim like you appear to be painting him as.

Oh...don't get me wrong. I am not painting him simply as a victim.

I believe that certain people hold up under pressure than others. And I believe that Carter was one of those that did not hold up under pressure very well. And...the added pressure of the "racial card" simply added to his demise.

But...I would not necessarily call someone "weak" because they could not hold up under pressure in certain types of situations.

It is probably important to reference that I am not a Quincy fan....when it comes to QB'ing the Cowboys.

 

[Doomsday101]

Oh...don't get me wrong. I am not painting him simply as a victim.

I believe that certain people hold up under pressure than others. And I believe that Carter was one of those that did not hold up under pressure very well. And...the added pressure of the "racial card" simply added to his demise.

But...I would not necessarily call someone "weak" because they could not hold up under pressure in certain types of situations.

It is probably important to reference that I am not a Quincy fan....when it comes to QB'ing the Cowboys.

But a QB would be considered weak if he could not hold up to outside pressure. It comes with the job of being a professional athlete.

 

[Paniolo22]

I think McNabb wants to be an all around QB, a guy who can run when he has to but work from the pocket just as well. Steve Young had to do the same thing, when he 1st took over for Montana he ran at the drop of a hat but he became a much better QB when he could work from the pocket and use his mobility when he had to.

I agree, but can you fix accuracy consistantly? Young had to fix his decision making on WHEN to run and pass. McNabb needs to fix his accuracy similar to Vick. He is much further ahead than Vick in his throwing, but it still needs a lot of work. I just think you adjust and play to your strengths, and I sure as hell don't want McNabb proving me wrong, so I'll just keep on contending that he sucks and hope the light never turns on for him to BE that complete QB that he wants to be.

 

[joseephuss]

McNabb was a running QB, like Vick, that decided it's better to be a passing QB and not take a pounding running the ball. It was a business decision, but portrayed arogantly by McNabb always making sure people KNEW he was a QB first, not a runner. I don't blame him for not wanting to get blasted every other play, but remember how livid we would get when Quincy would try and throw for a first instead of run for it when it was there? Do what you do best and stick with it. He is definitely a better running QB than throwing QB. Just ask the damaged field turf with the skid marks on the ground and they'll tell you. "Please run Donovan"

I got mad a Quincy Carter when he made bad decisions. Making the decision to throw a bad pass instead of running was a bad decision I saw him make several times. Making a bad decision to throw the ball to someone double covered instead of throwing it away was another. It wasn't about him being able to run or throw, it was about choosing the best thing to do. More times than not, he chose wrong.

McNabb was not a better runner this year due to injury. It was easier to pass the ball this year than try to run. Makes the decision easier to make.

 

[Mike 1967]

But a QB would be considered weak if he could not hold up to outside pressure. It comes with the job of being a professional athlete.

Yes...and I definitely think that there was stong evidence that he could not hold up under the pressure.

But what I don't know....is wether he would have been able to hold up under the pressure of simply playing QB. I don't know if it was the added pressure that did him in.

The irony to me is....it is the very people who idolized him for the wrong reasons which put the added pressure on him. IMO the Racist pressure was brought into the equation by the African American fan who idolized him for his skin color.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree, but can you fix accuracy consistantly? Young had to fix his decision making on WHEN to run and pass. McNabb needs to fix his accuracy similar to Vick. He is much further ahead than Vick in his throwing, but it still needs a lot of work. I just think you adjust and play to your strengths, and I sure as hell don't want McNabb proving me wrong, so I'll just keep on contending that he sucks and hope the light never turns on for him to BE that complete QB that he wants to be.

Spoken like a true Cowboys fan. LOL I agree that he still lacks some accuracy from the pocket but he has improved quite a bit from where he was in the past.