McNabb getting ripped in Philly

[CowboysFaninBaltimore]

Philly is a brutal place to play in. To try and win in that city is tough. The media is vicious, and the fans will tear you to pieces if you don't win a championship.

 

[wileedog]

You can't really call him a coach killer, considering him and Reid have been attached since his entrance into the league.

Well true, meant it as more of a characterization then literally.

 

[Alexander]

You can't really call him a coach killer, considering him and Reid have been attached since his entrance into the league.

They have a symbiotic relationship. I am not certain if either would be as good without the other. However, part of me wants to say Reid has helped him more than vice versa though. It is not that shocking since Reid has been able to win with his system with other quarterbacks like Jeff Garcia, A.J. Feeley and Kevin Kolb.

 

[viman96]

Philly is a brutal place to play in. To try and win in that city is tough. The media is vicious, and the fans will tear you to pieces if you don't win a championship.

Which is stupid considering they have never won a SB. They want to win so bad just so they can say they belong.

 

[tyke1doe]

Lots of fans and the radio hosts on WIP are saying if he can not win next week then he needs to be cut. Also he he is getting ripped for selling out his young WRs and saying they need to step up vs. knowing how to find a way to make a play. They think McNabb should point the finger at himself for missing the WRs.

:laugh2: Sounds like Dallas fans after the 2007 playoff loss. :laugh2:

 

[CATCH17]

The day Andy Reid, McNabb, and David Akers aren't Eagles I will do a dance.

 

[tyke1doe]

McNabb is still an elite QB in this league and Philly would be have to be absolutely braindead to let him go.

He is a very good quarterback. But I consider only three quarterbacks elite in this league - Brady, Peyton and Roethlisberger.

 

[KalEl]

He is a very good quarterback. But I consider only three quarterbacks elite in this league - Brady, Peyton and Roethlisberger.

What makes Big Ben elite? Brees and Rivers are both bye far better QBs and Romo is way better than Big Ben

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

He is a very good quarterback. But I consider only three quarterbacks elite in this league - Brady, Peyton and Roethlisberger.

Brady isn't elite anymore. He might get back to that level next year, but he sure as hell isn't this year. I wouldn't put Big Ben on that level either. Brees and Romo are both better than he is.

I'd say McNabb is a top 7 QB or so.

 

[tyke1doe]

What makes Big Ben elite? Brees and Rivers are both bye far better QBs and Romo is way better than Big Ben

The ability to rally his team for wins. That last Super Bowl drive was Big Ben all the way, as was the game against the Packers.

It's not just about stats. It's about delivering when it counts. Rivers and Romo have an opportunity to do that. But they haven't done it yet.

 

[Cover 2]

He is a very good quarterback. But I consider only three quarterbacks elite in this league - Brady, Peyton and Roethlisberger.

I'm gonna echo a few other posters, but no way is Big Ben elite. Both Rivers, Brees, and Romo are better than he is.

 

[tyke1doe]

Brady isn't elite anymore. He might get back to that level next year, but he sure as hell isn't this year. I wouldn't put Big Ben on that level either. Brees and Romo are both better than he is.

I'd say McNabb is a top 7 QB or so.

Well, I'm measuring "elite" based on body of work and continued potential. You're right, Brady was "average" this year, according to his standards. But you must remember, he just returned from a devastating injury, and despite the best in medical technology, it takes a full year to recover from those types of injuries.

Yes, Brady is still an elite quarterback. I don't take off for injury, unless it's one so severe there's no coming back from it.

 

[KalEl]

The ability to rally his team for wins. That last Super Bowl drive was Big Ben all the way, as was the game against the Packers.

It's not just about stats. It's about delivering when it counts. Rivers and Romo have an opportunity to do that. But they haven't done it yet.

You mean like Big Ben's rally in the SB vs Sea were he posted a record worst QB rating, stats, and performance.

Big Ben=OVERRATED

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm gonna echo a few other posters, but no way is Big Ben elite. Both Rivers, Brees, and Romo are better than he is.

Everyone has his/her opinions. But Roethlisberger showed he is an elite quarterback with that final drive in the Super Bowl. The Steelers problem wasn't necessarily Big Ben, but their defense.

 

[Aikbach]

Well in all honesty how much longer can he play truly? He's been injury prone and he's 34 soon to be 35, he doesn't garner Elway sympathy nor is he Elway talent.

I think next season is his last in philly no matter what.

 

[tyke1doe]

You mean like Big Ben's rally in the SB vs Sea were he posted a record worst QB rating, stats, and performance.

Big Ben=OVERRATED

You mean a second-year quarterback playing in the Super Bowl against the Seahawks?

No, I mean the fourth-year quarterback who drove the Steelers to a Super Bowl win last year.

If we're going to judge players based on their earlier years, Aikman, Favre nor Elway could be considered elite later in their careers.

Don't be silly.

 

[Aikbach]

Everyone has his/her opinions. But Roethlisberger showed he is an elite quarterback with that final drive in the Super Bowl. The Steelers problem wasn't necessarily Big Ben, but their defense.

The Cardinal defense was the worst defense in Super bowl history so I'm afraid i simply don't buy it.

That is the same defense that slowpoke Marion Barber torched for 75 yards on a screen.

 

[wileedog]

It's not just about stats. It's about delivering when it counts.

One drive last year doesn't make Ben a better QB in a game this year.

Fact is he is fairly turnover prone and not always terribly accurate. He gets sacked as much as anyone. Quite frankly his great defense has bailed him out way more times in his career than he has had last minute drives.

He's a good QB, and that's great he came through at times, but he is way overrated IMO.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Let Philly have a taste of our QB roster prior to Tony. That will cure all.

 

[Aikbach]

You mean a second-year quarterback playing in the Super Bowl against the Seahawks?

No, I mean the fourth-year quarterback who drove the Steelers to a Super Bowl win last year.

If we're going to judge players based on their earlier years, Aikman, Favre nor Elway could be considered elite later in their careers.

Don't be silly.

Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostetler have rings.

Tony Eason, Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler led teams to Super Bowls, are they elite?

they did enough but that's it, but they did enough.