Micah Parsons 2019 Cotton Bowl Defensive MVP

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  1. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    You are nothing but one of many critics, just like all of us. You gave your opinion. You called Parsons 'nothing but snake oil.' You own it. The Sgt Pepper critic gave his opinion immediately after it debuted. History proved him to be an absolute moron. History may prove you right. History may prove you to be wrong.

    You suck at being a critic. Just honest, constructive criticism. You act like Mr. Big Chest and go bold with an opinion (cool, I like that) and then slither away and backtrack, and caveat, and pretend you said something else. Not cool. You call a player 'snake oil' and then when confronted and made to look like an idiot, you backtrack and say the player might be a solid player but nowhere near that one-game highlight. Not cool.

    You called the Parsons snake oil and now are upset people may hold you accountable to your potentially ridiculous opinion.

    Perhaps you don't know the meaning of snake oil.

    snake oil
    [ˈsnāk ˌoil]
    NOUN
    informal
    NORTH AMERICAN
    1. a substance with no real medicinal value sold as a remedy for all diseases.
      • a product, policy, etc. of little real worth or value that is promoted as the solution to a problem.
        "the new tax plan was denounced as snake oil"
     
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  2. Starforever

    Starforever Well-Known Member

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    With all do respect, that is not all you said. Does the term "snake oil" mean anything to you? You predicted Parsons to be a failure this year.
     
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  3. Cowboy Lover

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    I like what I am seeing...but I will say this again....Penn State didn't play many big games. 2019? Idaho, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Maryland? Only one team in the top 10 (OSU #2). So he SHOULD dominate.

    Now the other side of the coin, I will use our Zeke. The last 4 games of the 2014 NCAA championship against the very best the NCAA had to offer...mighty bama and media darling Ducks among them. 800+ yards and 10 rushing tds. (That is a seasons work for many NCAA RBs). He broke bama's back and pulled their spinal chord.

    First round total stud. (we can debate his recent production and price tag...another time).

    So I don't really see that here. BUT...it is the year of covid, and we have a defensive staff that seems to have a sturdy direction. I've looked at our LBer's as pretty soft of late....partly due to front and back defense..and partly due to health/lingering injury. I'm hoping Parsons can be worked over (developed) to be the big plug the middle needs. Good speed and point of attack....just might be there. But this is the NFL now...not Penn State playing Buffalo.

    Hoping for big change at LBer!
     
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  4. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    Fair assessment.
     
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  5. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    Parsons is being sold as something he is not, IMO. That is snake oil. Having said that, it says nothing about what he is, which we do not know yet. He could be good. BUT I DON"T THINK SO. If you have an issue with that then have some patience and in due time, we shall see.
     
  6. Cowboy Lover

    Cowboy Lover Well-Known Member

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    I didn't read everything before I posted. Please note I didn't say "snake oil". o_O
     
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  7. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    Yup... and?
     
  8. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    I understand but the Memphis offense was pretty potent that year. I know they aren’t Alabama… but neither are they North Dakota State.

    There are guys who played at tiny college’s who don’t dominate their competition like Parsons did here. Khalil Mack played at Buffalo and against tiny schools. Why wasn’t every game he played like this one with Micha? Mack played schools way smaller than Memphis.

    Also, Parsons had plenty of other games that were damn good… some as a true freshman in the big 10. At the time of the cotton bowl, he had already made first team all-American as a true sophomore. That obviously didn’t happen because of this game against Memphis.

    Parsons’ two years at Penn State were impressive to everyone.

    And of course you don’t have to go find Jaylon’s highlights… but I will tell you that I don’t ever remember Smith having a game as dominant as Parsons’ Cotton Bowl. I mean, maybe he did but I don’t remember it.

    I’m not sure why Smith is the automatic comp for Parsons just because they were both linebackers. There have been plenty of super talented LB’s that came into the NFL and didn’t have the issues that Smith had… and that is without even talking about the injury and how that has changed Jaylon’s game.

    And really, I don’t think anybody is expecting to come in to the NFL and dominate like he did in the Cotton bowl.
     
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  9. ninja

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    I am glad we are back to square one. No more backtracking. You called Parsons snake oil. You own it and stand by it. We will find out soon if you re correct. Too easy. You get the credit and can say 'I told you so' if correct. If not, people can laugh at your erroneous opinion.
     
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  10. Starforever

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    You are giving an outcome, prognosticating, or dare I say, giving more than an opinion. Facts, can be proven; while opinions are subjective.
     
  11. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    He has to make two pro bowls in his first three years for me to be wrong. LOL
     
  12. JoeKing

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    It's an opinion. When it is proven wrong, please come back to collect your pound of flesh from me. Until then, piss off! :mad:
     
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  13. blueblood70

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    All im saying is all those very down on JS, he had college highlights and was also lock first rounder before the injury..this is why Jones took flyer on Jaylon, he watched the highlights..
     
  14. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    This is true.
     
  15. Starforever

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    I will after I state this fact. You did not say, I think he will be a failure. You said, he will be a failure. There must be something to your prognosticating, because I just came from taking a leak. Wow!
     
  16. ninja

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    If you want it that way. Fair enough. I can give you some slack. It is a measurable parameter. We differ on the meaning of snake oil. But it is all good. We are all Cowboy fans and here to have some fun. I'll go with Parsons making the pro bowl two out of his first three years.

    My grandfather listened to someone on tv in the 50s-60s telling him to put vinegar on his knees to cure arthritis. Grandfather later learned that person was a quack and laughed at himself for walking around smelling like vinegar for years.
     
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  17. Verdict

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    Thank you for posting that. I enjoyed the watch. Here are a few of my observations:

    1. Man among boys, at least against Memphis. Memphis appeared way overmatched by the Penn State defense. (Lots of breakdowns by Memphis’ OL).

    2. His speed is elite and evident on film.

    3. Love his nose for the football on this film.

    4. I like how you can tell he is disgusted with himself (even when he makes a play) but could have done better (int). It seems sincere and he isn’t a grandstander.

    5. He is big enough to make a play, but if he was slightly bigger he would be a DWare playing linebacker.
     
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  18. Bullflop

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    That's pretty much what my thinking is at this time, also. It might very well take some time for Micah to overcome the year-long layoff that he had last year. Hopefully, he'll be able to assimilate what Quinn's defense requires in a reasonable amount of time.

    I can't claim not to be sold on him, though, since his talent is widely considered to be so exceptional. As the same token, I don't expect him to be an instant success story from the get-go, without some much-needed adjustments and added development to be forthcoming.

    I think it's wise for many of us to keep our expectations at arm's length until he's had time to adjust to a new system and surroundings. He's still a rookie, without doubt but an exceptional talent, as well. We'll see how things go for him. I'm just hoping for the best, whatever that may be.
     
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  19. Blast From The Past

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    crazy talent just hope is transcends into the NFL and injuries do not snip it in the butt
     
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  20. Cowboy Lover

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    If it's wrong most people won;t remember. Joke-ing won;t come out of the hole for it.

    Like you say...if right....we'll hear no end of it. We know his type.
     

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