Micah Parsons calls out Refs

Should Micah Parsons call out the Refs?

  • Yes

    Votes: 131 70.4%
  • No

    Votes: 55 29.6%

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CoachD

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This is how you use a platform to get your point across and the NFL better take notice because they're playing themselves out of money and ratings.
 

CoachD

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one negative about calling out the refs is the unspoken repercussions that may come your way and/or the teams.....[/QUO

Players need to make a stand to get their point across otherwise all of this will go unnoticed by the NFL.
 

nalam

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It needs to be pointed out every time he’s held and it isn’t called. Maybe eventually they’ll feel pressure to start calling them.
True , not only being held , but so many chokeholds , he might get injured seriously if it continues.
 

glimmerman

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If they would call it a few times they will quit holding as much. When they are getting away with it they will keep doing it. That was a terrible non call and right in front of the ref. No way they aren’t calling it..
 

phildadon86

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So you can tell holding from a still picture? Can you tell PI? Can you tell illegal contact? Can you tell a facemask? You can't because all are motion penalties you have to see through to know what action happened. The fact that people are like, "yeah that's holding" without seeing the action speaks volumes. Bias. And yet want to hurl that label at others. Y'all would make fine politicians nowadays, I tells ya. Lol.
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Here are 2 still images for you. Both facemasks that werent called.

You going to say you want to see the full video or?
 

Soth

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This forum is driving me crazy lately haha. Even after I posted it everyone keeps ranting about conspiracy theories. You can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink.

Parsons uses a speed rip about 70% of the time coming off the edge. For this reason it is ok for linemen to be draped all over him. Point blank he needs to find some new moves.

He is getting held when he is not using the rip move and they still won't call it.
 

MarcusRock

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Here are 2 still images for you. Both facemasks that werent called.

You going to say you want to see the full video or?

Second one looks bad, yes. Did his hand get caught there and it was incidental or was it a full-on grab? The first one, if he took his hand away right away it could be the old 5-yard variety facemask that is no longer in the rules. Have to see the video to know for sure on these which is my point. Short of a still photo of a player biting another player's kneecap you absolutely need context for evidence of a judgement call foul where motion determines if there is a foul or not.
 

Soth

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Also has anyone verified by video that in the photo MIcah posted he used the rip move? He was getting mugged on every pass rush and I find it hard to believe every single time he was using a rip move.

He was not using the move every single time. These posters just want to find excuses to defend the refs.
 

MarcusRock

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He was not using the move every single time. These posters just want to find excuses to defend the refs.

Do you know when this play of the alleged hold took place? I have video of every game and can pull it to post here. Honestly, when it comes to other people's whines and accusations, the burden of proof should be on them to produce but I like playing along. Lol.
 

bewp7

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good keep doing it

hope more do like von miller, garrett, both watt, both bosa, donald, and all them
 

Hadenough

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one negative about calling out the refs is the unspoken repercussions that may come your way and/or the teams.....
The league needs full time refs of their own. Not some lawyer who likes to play ref on weekends.
 

phildadon86

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Second one looks bad, yes. Did his hand get caught there and it was incidental or was it a full-on grab? The first one, if he took his hand away right away it could be the old 5-yard variety facemask that is no longer in the rules. Have to see the video to know for sure on these which is my point. Short of a still photo of a player biting another player's kneecap you absolutely need context for evidence of a judgement call foul where motion determines if there is a foul or not.
My God man.

I assume you watched these games.

The Washington one Beasely was heading for the endzone when that happened. No call
 

MarcusRock

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My God man.

I assume you watched these games.

The Washington one Beasely was heading for the endzone when that happened. No call

These were years ago. I'm sure I don't remember every false start that didn't occur either. If it was during the Twitter age and it was as egregious as you're making it out to be, surely it'd be there, correct? This one was and was a no call:

 

phildadon86

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These were years ago. I'm sure I don't remember every false start that didn't occur either. If it was during the Twitter age and it was as egregious as you're making it out to be, surely it'd be there, correct? This one was and was a no call:


LOL. Of course you find one where the referees missed one against "your team"

All I am saying is. You can still tell a bunch from a STILL photo.
 

MarcusRock

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LOL. Of course you find one where the referees missed one against "your team"

All I am saying is. You can still tell a bunch from a STILL photo.

I posted it because there was no whining about it when it happened. Wonder why. This example quells added whining. Lol.

What I'm saying is unless you have video, you have nothing when it comes to a penalty determined by a player's motion.
 

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From the rule book:

(1) When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:

(i) if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.

There is no exception to his note. In other words, if Parsons began his rush with a rip move and this position was the result, the refs will not call holding. But we cannot tell from the picture. We would need the video to see the entire play.
 
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