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BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

STSINAZ said:
most people on here dont know football..they were brainwashed into believing smaller is better...i wonder why they think that? lol

Go ahead ask nors a football question LOL

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

STSINAZ said:
what's funny is if Parcells posted on here he would be lambasted everyday and he is the freakin coach of the team that the naysayers on here are following! In my book that is hilarious...

he would tell you that al singleton was too small for the 3-4....thats why he brought in fugita....you would say well then why did you play him there to begin with? he would say that you cant change everything overnight!

he would tell you that dat was too small and had to hide in the 3-4...you naysayers would argue back like Dat is your God that you bown down to everynight in worship!

he would tell you romo is going to be a starting qb one day...you would argue that

he would tell you that shanle is better than dat against the run.....you would argue

he would tell you that bigger is better when it comes to football...as long as they are fast as well.....you would argue

HOW DO I KNOW ALL OF THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY IT IN PRESS CONFERENCES....GET ONBOARD OR RIDE ON BECAUSE YOU ARE WAY WAY OFF FROM WHAT OUR TEAM IS DOING....ALIGN YOURSELF WITH PARCELLS BUT IF YOU DONT, DONT PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH LIKE HE IS SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT HE IS SAYING...JUST SAY YOU ARE WRONG AND MOVE ON...

He didnt say that stuff in his PC's lol

Duane · Nov 12, 2005

Funniest thing I have read in a while (ever) on the board.

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

STSINAZ said:
what's funny is if Parcells posted on here he would be lambasted everyday and he is the freakin coach of the team that the naysayers on here are following! In my book that is hilarious...

he would tell you that al singleton was too small for the 3-4....thats why he brought in fugita....you would say well then why did you play him there to begin with? he would say that you cant change everything overnight!

he would tell you that dat was too small and had to hide in the 3-4...you naysayers would argue back like Dat is your God that you bown down to everynight in worship!

he would tell you romo is going to be a starting qb one day...you would argue that

he would tell you that shanle is better than dat against the run.....you would argue

he would tell you that bigger is better when it comes to football...as long as they are fast as well.....you would argue

HOW DO I KNOW ALL OF THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY IT IN PRESS CONFERENCES....GET ONBOARD OR RIDE ON BECAUSE YOU ARE WAY WAY OFF FROM WHAT OUR TEAM IS DOING....ALIGN YOURSELF WITH PARCELLS BUT IF YOU DONT, DONT PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH LIKE HE IS SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT HE IS SAYING...JUST SAY YOU ARE WRONG AND MOVE ON...

I agree - listen to Parcells - all these moves were predictable and happened.

And at the end of the day we are a vastly better team than we were. You'd think the naysayers would be tired of the constant bleeding...

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

BigDFan5 said:
First you were saying Ware was a 2nd rounder, then maybe at #20, Way to risky for #11 and then stated you had him listed a distant 3rd behind Merrimn and Pollack

Not rue - Pollack was a different cat than Merriman/Ware.

I posted my top 300 list? Did you have sack to go on record? Huh?

I posted Beware and was very high on the Htbrid Ware after Senior bowl. I studied all the ESPN and NFL film of practices and deemed him 1st round worthy. Great player but small school raised a tad bit of concern.

Merriman has more sacks than Ware in less games - Hardly wrong on that evaluation if thats what you are insinuating. Possible both are good?

Players I were very high on this board, I also was very pro Spears and went as far to compare him to Seymour....

Thomas Davis
Heath Miller
Odell Thurman
Petitti - many laughed at me when he was 370 and a poor Senior Bowl, Combine......

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

Tio said:
Don't try and spin now, you stated in a post that there is "no way we take ware at #11". But thats not the issue, I only brought it up because you seem to be obsessed with those of us who backed henson over romo in preseason. Well, newsflash, you are wrong way too many times to obsess over other posters' mistakes.

Oh, and two of merrimans sacks have been when he went unblocked. I doubt you see ware without a blocker committed to him all year.

Ware/Merriman

I leaned Merriman and thought Ware was a reach at #11. Thought we could get him at #20 or second. Small school kid moving positions. If SD or Dallas didn't grab him he'd have fallen maybe far.....

Merriman has more sacks than Ware in less games - jury still out on better player. Maybe both will be great.

MichaelWinicki · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
Ware/Merriman

I leaned Merriman and thought Ware was a reach at #11. Thought we could get him at #20 or second. Small school kid moving positions. If SD or Dallas didn't grab him he'd have fallen maybe far.....

Merriman has more sacks than Ware in less games - jury still out on better player. Maybe both will be great.

Boy Nors I don't agree with this at all... I don't think Ware would have fallen far. Not at all. Ourlads had him rated #13th or #14 overall. He was a decent choice.

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

Not rue - Pollack was a different cat than Merriman/Ware.

Not true? you think i would have posted it without advance searching it first?

Nors said:
We draft Ware at #11 I think its a tremendous reach

Nors said:
I'm on record - love both Merriman and Pollack

Ware is a distant 3rd

This #11 talk is nonsense

Nors said:
Ware. Merriman, Spears is the rage. Ala S Jackson and K Jones exactly a year ago.

We can trade out of #11 and still get one of them.

Target is Pollack in trade down? He's getting no love and this Ware now a top 5 is getting outrageous.

I posted my top 300 list? Did you have sack to go on record? Huh?

I saw a 200 and a 153 and in both you had Ware in the 39-45 range Pollack top 15 above even Merriman.

What kind of "sack" does it take to post a list of names? lol

I posted Beware and was very high on the Htbrid Ware after Senior bowl. I studied all the ESPN and NFL film of practices and deemed him 1st round worthy. Great player but small school raised a tad bit of concern.

Deemed him first round yet alway said he wasnt worth the pick, and listed him on your "list in the 39-45 range ok....

You were high on Ware just not as high as like 45 other guys

Merriman has more sacks than Ware in less games - Hardly wrong on that evaluation if thats what you are insinuating. Possible both are good?

Never said Merriman wasn't good. It should be noted though that Merriman was coming in for some pass rush plays only some of which he got sacks untouched because of the play design. When he started and hd to play as an all around LB he got burned

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

MichaelWinicki said:
Boy Nors I don't agree with this at all... I don't think Ware would have fallen far. Not at all. Ourlads had him rated #13th or #14 overall. He was a decent choice.

San Diego stated they would have taken him if we took merriman, I believe the texans were interested as well

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24175&highlight=nors

This is it all out there - also factor in Merriman was only 20......
And has more sacks than Ware in less games. Maybe both are good. Ware doesn't get drafted by Chargers he free falls.....

I had Ware rated around #30 on my board, If that makes me bad so be it.

MarionBarberThe4th · Nov 12, 2005

ABQ in Roswell:
What do you think about Dontrell Moore in the draft?

Could be steal of draft and will slip to knee injury. Kids a stud.

Seriosuly though, what use would we have for him?

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21936&highlight=nors

Ware love

Dontrell Moore is a 2nd round back that might fall to day 2 based on knee injury. He's push the crap out of TT and MB3 for roster spot. May be a future star in the NFL.

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15019&highlight=WARE

I was Pro Ware in December - note all those STEADFAST against 3-4 and hybrids....

Many in this thread now loving it. Good reading!

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24175&highlight=nors

This is it all out there - also factor in Merriman was only 20......
And has more sacks than Ware in less games. Maybe both are good. Ware doesn't get drafted by Chargers he free falls.....

I had Ware rated around #30 on my board, If that makes me bad so be it.

I can show you a dozen posts from YOU that say different than you say in that thread

Had Ware at 30? on which board?

#44 here http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16328&highlight=pollack+ware

less than a month later #74 here http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17798&highlight=pollack+ware

a week later back to #40 http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18236&highlight=pollack+ware

#40 again http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20108&highlight=pollack+ware

#39 http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22142&highlight=pollack+ware

Hell you didn't even think Ware could be an everydown starter

Nors said:
Parcells is usually risk averse when drafting. I think Ware is a huge reach and risk at #11. IS NOT AN EVERYDOWN GIVEN STARTER!
At best a 4-3 Situational pass rusher and he's never played up at OLB and ne 3-4 experience.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=338890&highlight=ware#post338890

MichaelWinicki · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15019&highlight=WARE

I was Pro Ware in December - note all those STEADFAST against 3-4 and hybrids....

Many in this thread now loving it. Good reading!

The fact is Nors there are many that think Ware could be an effective defensive end in a 4-3. He's no smaller than Dwight Feeney or Jason Taylor.

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15019&highlight=WARE

I was Pro Ware in December - note all those STEADFAST against 3-4 and hybrids....

Many in this thread now loving it. Good reading!

Sorry man you have been busted you made it clear you DIDN'T want Ware. I noticed you hyped about 20 players throwing stuff at walls seeing what sticks eh

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21936&highlight=nors

Ware love

Dontrell Moore is a 2nd round back that might fall to day 2 based on knee injury. He's push the crap out of TT and MB3 for roster spot. May be a future star in the NFL.

LMAO thanks for pointing out your inconsistency

March 15th 2005 you said

Nors said:
Demarcus Ware is 6 to 7 years younger and a serious thought.....
Ware can play 4-3 DE, 3-4 olb.......

1 month later on April 21st you said

Nors said:
Parcells is usually risk averse when drafting. I think Ware is a huge reach and risk at #11. IS NOT AN EVERYDOWN GIVEN STARTER!
At best a 4-3 Situational pass rusher and he's never played up at OLB and ne 3-4 experience.

Merriman has and can do both. Is bigger, stronger, more experienced at ACC level competition. Spears is also Pro coached in a 3-4. I just can't see us taking Ware at #11.

There is too much "if" next to Ware at #11....

SO tell us Nors did Ware lose his ability in the month between these posts or were you playing both sides as you usually do so you could try and claim to be right later?

LaTunaNostra · Nov 12, 2005

Nors · Nov 12, 2005

tHIS WAS MY FINAL TOp 30 - Ware at 27, had him at 39 in March upgraded him up as draft drew near.... Post your top 200, curious how you did. Thanks!

rank NAME POS TEAM HGT wgt SPD RATING
1 5 EDWARDS Braylon WR MICH 6- 2.5 209 4.45 428.35 428.35 - 428.35
2 6 ROLLE Antrell . CB MIAM 5-11.5 205 4.51 428.02 428.02 - 428.02
3 XXX Rodgers, Aaron QB Cal 400.00 25.00 425.00
4 3 JOHNSON Derrick LB TX 6- 3.0 234 4.52 432.25 432.25 (9.00) 423.25
5 1 WILLIAMS Mike WR USC z 6- 5.0 236 4.56 447.08 447.08 (28.00) 419.08
6 2 WILLIAMS Carnell RB AUB 5-11.0 202 4.44 434.79 434.79 (24.00) 410.79
7 7 BROWN Ron RB AUB 6- 1.0 216 4.44 417.62 417.62 (7.00) 410.62
8 10 BARRON Alex T FSU 6- 7.4 322 5.20 409.76 409.76 - 409.76
9 XXX Smith, Alex QB Utah 369.00 38.00 407.00
10 XXX Davis, Thomas S Georgia 405.38 (3.00) 402.38
11 4 POLLACK David DE GEO 6- 2.0 274 4.72 430.93 430.93 (30.00) 400.93
12 XXX MERRIMAN, Shawne BRID 6-4 1/2 262 390.00 10.00 400.00
13 8 BENSON Cedric RB TX 5-11.0 221 4.49 415.25 415.25 (17.00) 398.25
14 12 CLAYTON Mark WR OKLA 5-10.0 185 4.45 397.75 397.75 (5.00) 392.75
15 9 JACKSON Marlin CB MICH 6- 1.0 208 4.47 414.22 414.22 (25.00) 389.22
16 30 SPEARS Marcus DE LSU 6- 4.0 296 4.99 366.53 366.53 17.00 383.53
17 11 JAMES Erasumus DE WISC 6- 5.1 258 4.68 398.03 398.03 (17.00) 381.03
18 24 CODY Shaun DT USC 6- 3.5 285 4.92 368.94 368.94 8.00 376.94
19 29 JONES PAC MAN CB WV 5- 9.0 170 4.34 366.77 366.77 8.00 374.77
20 XXX Miller, Heath TE Virginia 6-5 254 378.88 (5.00) 373.88
21 XXX Miller, Justin CB Clemson 5-11 200 385.00 (12.00) 373.00
22 13 FRYE Charlie . QB AKRON 6- 3.3 223 4.74 384.99 384.99 (14.00) 370.99
23 32 CODY Dan . DE OKLA 6- 4.0 278 4.85 365.14 365.14 5.00 370.14
24 48 JOHNSON Travis - DT FSU 6- 3.0 265 4.68 358.12 358.12 12.00 370.12
25 21 ROGERS Carlos - CB AUB 5-11.8 197 4.45 372.36 372.36 (3.00) 369.36
26 XXX THURMAN, Odell LB Georgia 6-1 240 370.00 (1.00) 369.00
27 75 WARE Demarcus . DE TROYs 6- 4.0 236 4.58 348.98 348.98 20.00 368.98
28 47 ROTH Matt DE IOWA 6- 3.0 262 4.78 358.20 358.20 9.00 367.20
29 28 SMITH Alex TE STAN 6- 4.6 255 4.76 366.85 366.85 - 366.85
30 19 BAAS David C MICH 6- 4.5 322 5.39 374.77 374.77 (8.00) 366.77
31 17 BROWN Elton G VIRG 6- 4.5 338 5.33 377.85 377.85 (12.00) 365.85

BigDFan5 · Nov 12, 2005

Nors said:
tHIS WAS MY FINAL TOp 30 - Ware at 27, had him at 39 in March upgraded him up as draft drew near.... Post your top 200, curious how you did. Thanks!

rank NAME POS TEAM HGT wgt SPD RATING
1 5 EDWARDS Braylon WR MICH 6- 2.5 209 4.45 428.35 428.35 - 428.35
2 6 ROLLE Antrell . CB MIAM 5-11.5 205 4.51 428.02 428.02 - 428.02
3 XXX Rodgers, Aaron QB Cal 400.00 25.00 425.00
4 3 JOHNSON Derrick LB TX 6- 3.0 234 4.52 432.25 432.25 (9.00) 423.25
5 1 WILLIAMS Mike WR USC z 6- 5.0 236 4.56 447.08 447.08 (28.00) 419.08
6 2 WILLIAMS Carnell RB AUB 5-11.0 202 4.44 434.79 434.79 (24.00) 410.79
7 7 BROWN Ron RB AUB 6- 1.0 216 4.44 417.62 417.62 (7.00) 410.62
8 10 BARRON Alex T FSU 6- 7.4 322 5.20 409.76 409.76 - 409.76
9 XXX Smith, Alex QB Utah 369.00 38.00 407.00
10 XXX Davis, Thomas S Georgia 405.38 (3.00) 402.38
11 4 POLLACK David DE GEO 6- 2.0 274 4.72 430.93 430.93 (30.00) 400.93
12 XXX MERRIMAN, Shawne BRID 6-4 1/2 262 390.00 10.00 400.00
13 8 BENSON Cedric RB TX 5-11.0 221 4.49 415.25 415.25 (17.00) 398.25
14 12 CLAYTON Mark WR OKLA 5-10.0 185 4.45 397.75 397.75 (5.00) 392.75
15 9 JACKSON Marlin CB MICH 6- 1.0 208 4.47 414.22 414.22 (25.00) 389.22
16 30 SPEARS Marcus DE LSU 6- 4.0 296 4.99 366.53 366.53 17.00 383.53
17 11 JAMES Erasumus DE WISC 6- 5.1 258 4.68 398.03 398.03 (17.00) 381.03
18 24 CODY Shaun DT USC 6- 3.5 285 4.92 368.94 368.94 8.00 376.94
19 29 JONES PAC MAN CB WV 5- 9.0 170 4.34 366.77 366.77 8.00 374.77
20 XXX Miller, Heath TE Virginia 6-5 254 378.88 (5.00) 373.88
21 XXX Miller, Justin CB Clemson 5-11 200 385.00 (12.00) 373.00
22 13 FRYE Charlie . QB AKRON 6- 3.3 223 4.74 384.99 384.99 (14.00) 370.99
23 32 CODY Dan . DE OKLA 6- 4.0 278 4.85 365.14 365.14 5.00 370.14
24 48 JOHNSON Travis - DT FSU 6- 3.0 265 4.68 358.12 358.12 12.00 370.12
25 21 ROGERS Carlos - CB AUB 5-11.8 197 4.45 372.36 372.36 (3.00) 369.36
26 XXX THURMAN, Odell LB Georgia 6-1 240 370.00 (1.00) 369.00
27 75 WARE Demarcus . DE TROYs 6- 4.0 236 4.58 348.98 348.98 20.00 368.98
28 47 ROTH Matt DE IOWA 6- 3.0 262 4.78 358.20 358.20 9.00 367.20
29 28 SMITH Alex TE STAN 6- 4.6 255 4.76 366.85 366.85 - 366.85
30 19 BAAS David C MICH 6- 4.5 322 5.39 374.77 374.77 (8.00) 366.77
31 17 BROWN Elton G VIRG 6- 4.5 338 5.33 377.85 377.85 (12.00) 365.85

Where is the link to this thread I didnt see it. BTW reply to my last post about your inconsistencys thanks

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