Mike Martz: Deep Dive Analysis of Dak's Ints This Year

[Dre11]

Are you saying Dak should've threw that pass?

What I'm saying is the pass was being thrown before Gallup decided to not to run his route under the Db. This is not hard Dak is already anticipating Gallup to do just that.

 

[Dre11]

To be ignorant and say I don't know football when I'm telling you about leverage which you clearly don't know about is interesting.

You don't know football sitting here saying Dak shouldn't throw a pass that predicated on timing and a spot not when the wr is open.

 

[Dre11]

You missed the part where Martz said they had a rule of, "if you're even you're leaving"

You missed the part where Martz said they had a rule of, "if you're even you're leaving."

Yes that's basic in route running. But you missed the part where he said depending on personnel, wrs are also told not to go over the top. Also, looking at when Gallup broke he had no intention on running the go.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

seriously dude?

defenses drop footballs in the NFL? holy **** -

maybe you need to drop your defenses and stop attacking people who don't agree with you. you sound like an idiot asking me if i watch NFL football when i just commented on watching daks 1st year performance where i said passes were being dropped.

i also said that would eventually catch up to him.

it did.

build a bridge and get over it.

That is one way of looking at it. Another is that you appear to not watch football even if you claim that you do.

You argument is basically that you felt that he should have had more interceptions his first year so we should just resign ourselves to him throwing picks at last year's rate.

His problem is that he was arguing it on merit when prima facie it's egocentric nonsense.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes that's basic in route running. But you missed the part where he said depending on personnel, wrs are also told not to go over the top. Also, looking at when Gallup broke he had no intention on running the go.

You cross the defender's face and not letting him undercut you is the entire point of deep cuts.

 

[Dre11]

Well that a pretty moronic post, huh ? Your grocery store bagger is a Hall of Famer, and took his team to two Super Bowls. In 1999 alone, he led the NFL in pass completions, touchdowns thrown, and QB rating. Oh, he also was the NFL MVP, went to the SB, was the SB MVP, and set a SB passing record of 414 yards. Keep up the good work and save your money. Maybe some day you’ll be able to go to the Hall of Fame and they’ll let you sniff the grocery bagger’s jock.

And that Groceey bagger did that under Martz and his offense. So the moronic post is yours.

 

[Dre11]

You cross the defender's face and not letting him undercut you is the entire point of deep cuts.

100%.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Someone needs to give Martz a job.

13 years out of the league with your last chance in the NFL being the Cleveland Browns telling you "no" when you interviewed for the OC job after their 7-9 season is just unacceptable for an offensive genius like him.

I think we forget these guys all gotta work together and enjoy each other’s company. I heard martz is difficult and egotestical.

Reminds me of the kapernick thing. It’s liek yea I can sign him to be a backup but wouldn’t I have more fun with my third stowing qb being some kid from northern Iowa trying to earn a career?

 

[Dre11]

Well that a pretty moronic post, huh ? Your grocery store bagger is a Hall of Famer, and took his team to two Super Bowls. In 1999 alone, he led the NFL in pass completions, touchdowns thrown, and QB rating. Oh, he also was the NFL MVP, went to the SB, was the SB MVP, and set a SB passing record of 414 yards. Keep up the good work and save your money. Maybe some day you’ll be able to go to the Hall of Fame and they’ll let you sniff the grocery bagger’s jock.

Was he bagging groceries, before he started in Martz's offense or was a HOFer ? I'll let you figure that our.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's sad really. Martz is one of the greater football offensive minds. He innovated the game.

If he is not an expert on Coryell offense then who is?

 

[Mr_437]

You don't know football sitting here saying Dak shouldn't throw a pass that predicated on timing and a spot not when the wr is open.

The positioning of the CB matters. I watched Troy Aikman throw comebacks to Michael Irvin for years, I know how timing routes go. You don't know how CBs play think Gilmore is going to give up his position, QB1 has to respect that man.

 

[Mr_437]

What I'm saying is the pass was being thrown before Gallup decided to not to run his route under the Db. This is not hard Dak is already anticipating Gallup to do just that.

Better man won. Gilmore had outside leverage and was underneath the route. That route was dead at that point, especially with a quality CB.

 

[Kevinicus]

Well having your offense nicknamed the "greatest show on turf" wouldn't give him some genius status?

5 hall of famers (once Holt gets in) may have helped a little.

 

[T-RO]

53 wins?

Nice. Only about 30 less than Jason Garrett and only 1 more post season win. Garrett has more Super Bowl rings also.

You probably thought Martz was the HC when the Rams won the Super Bowl, huh?

Genius I tell ya.

I explicitly said Martz designed the Rams offense and then was HC.

Bro...I gotta say goodbye to you. You offer nothing of football insight...and just perpetual annoyance.

Goodbye MountaineerCowboy.

 

[iceberg]

Damn you in your feelings..why would you even post something so silly and then get mad when someone calls you out on jt? Your point was Daks dropped interceptions would come back to bite him….in year 7… Genius observation thanks for your contributions lol.


“Build a bridge and get over it”……damn well you told me let me go sit down somewhere.

Oh yea. This is why you were on ignore.

My bad. Back you go

 

[MaineBoy]

And that Groceey bagger did that under Martz and his offense. So the moronic post is yours.

Nah, you just made moronic post #2. You referred to him and then said Martz did not always have top shelf talent - as if he was an example. Own it Einstein, don’t try to spin it. Like I said, go to Canton and take a sniff - if they let you.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

in daks first year when he threw so few INTs, i took note because a lot were simply dropped by the other side or over thrown to the point it would come back at him in the long run.

here we are. its just what he does. you can micro-analyze it all you want, but he'll keep doing it.

This could be said about every QB in history, so iam not exactly sure what your point is...

 

[iceberg]

This could be said about every QB in history, so iam not exactly sure what your point is...

He overthrew a lot of passes that year and the D dropped a high number of those.

It made his stats look great but I thought it wouldn't last.

It hasn't.

Last year speaks for itself.

 

[streetcredit]

So only the Cowboy WRs are responsible for 33% of the INTs, all other teams have WRs that run perfect routes?
Therefore, we only deduct from Dak's stats and that still doesn't make him top ten in INT%.

 

[iceberg]

So only the Cowboy WRs are responsible for 33% of the INTs, all other teams have WRs that run perfect routes?
Therefore, we only deduct from Dak's stats and that still doesn't make him top ten in INT%.

Gonna need to do the math a bit better than random assumptions to generate a desired conclusion